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The C-14, aka Kawasaki Concours-14, the new one :) => Accessories and modifications - C14/GTR 1400 => Topic started by: PlaynInPeoria on June 10, 2013, 11:23:06 AM
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The bike is a 2012 C14. I have no idea how to state this other than just saying it outright. The underside of my "boys" feels like it sets on fire after a while. I have always sat fairly far forward on almost all my bikes. I can't see changing my riding position, it's just the way I ride and I always go right back there.
Stock seat basically set the underside of my balls on fire on my trip to Texas. Sorry, I can't think of a better way to put that, that's where the pain is. Bought a Sargent seat (standard, not low), took a trip to Iowa this weekend. Took the long way home, my God, I was really suffering, which I find frustrating because I just spent $450 on that sucker. It's a nice seat but has the same problem. It's now for sale in the for sale section, btw, pretty good price. It's about a week old and nearly $100 off.
I tried some LD rider shorts, OMG they burned. So now I will try some Gold Bond Medicated powder to avoid the sweat? Maybe just baby powder, the Gold Bond has menthol in it and feels cool but not sure if that's good. I got the extra strength and a heavy application of that caused a heat issue just standing there, let alone riding on a bike for hours.
My FZ1 doesn't do that (or not bad enough to where it's torture), my C10 didn't do that either. This sucks! I love to ride long distances, we are going to Arkansas leaving Wednesday at noon, will return Sunday and I am taking the FZ1. I will prolly just go by some baby powder and apply that liberally and pray it helps. It's gonna be pretty hot too and I will prolly be wearing my vented leather pants, which won't make for a cool scrotal area but I feel like it's important to be protected. '
Sorry for the overly accurate description!
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Gettcha something like this stuff and stick it underneath (the seat, not your balls. although you could do both...). ;)
http://www.motosport.com/dirtbike/DEI-ReflectACool-12-x-24 (http://www.motosport.com/dirtbike/DEI-ReflectACool-12-x-24)
(http://fs7.motosport.com/is/image/Motosport/DEI-REFL-12X24_is?$NewPDP2$)
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You think heat from the bike is causing it? Is it really that hot on the seat? Never noticed it.
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You might try some risers so that you're riding position is less aggressive/forward. Then, use your thighs to grip the tank during deceleration/braking. Otherwise, buy a different seat; maybe a Daylong or Baldwin...
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Sheepskin
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Airhawk R.
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Do a Seth Laam seat and buy some asbestos skivvies.
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Monkey butt powder. A couple buddies swear by it. I've never tried it as LD rides kill my back. :(
Matt
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You think heat from the bike is causing it? Is it really that hot on the seat? Never noticed it.
It's either the bike or your balls right? If it's your balls, were done talking. :rotflmao:
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I dated a red head back in the day... :-\
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You think heat from the bike is causing it? Is it really that hot on the seat? Never noticed it.
It's probably not helping, although I have an 08 and don't have that issue. I have the heat shielding under the seat and I have used foam under the seat to block the heat from getting to the under seat area. I also wear vented overpants.
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I have had the same problem. I have the Sargent as well and it is extremely comfortable for me, with the exception of the heat. I also have the Corbin, bought to help combat the heat issue. It is much more firm and covered in leather, so the heat issue isn't as bad, of course the shape of the seat leaves a bit to be desired. The seat is designed for those who weigh a bit more than me, to put it nicely. If you do not have extra padding, the seating position is a bit too far back, and the front hump is too pronounced. Still, I am learning to like it. My wife prefers the Corbin for its position for her.
I can do 800+ days on either the Sargent or Corbin. I did a 1200 mile day on the Sargent. If the Sargent was leather and a tad more firm, it would be great. If the Corbin didn't have the hump from hell, and had the good people at Corbin actually do what I asked, and what they said they would do when they made the seat, not make the seating position so far back, it would be perfect.
The Corbin is getting better, after 5,000 miles, but I wish they would have listened in the first place. Some have done a humpectomy with good results.
Overall the heat issue is cause by the foam conforming to your body a bit too closely preventing air from circulating. The leather helps, as does the firmer seat. I had a Sargent on my RC51 and I didn't have the issue, of course it was a very thin seat by comparison, so you couldn't sink in far.
Good luck. If you can have the Sargent recovered in leather it may help.
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The bike is a 2012 C14. I have no idea how to state this other than just saying it outright. The underside of my "boys" feels like it sets on fire after a while. I have always sat fairly far forward on almost all my bikes. I can't see changing my riding position, it's just the way I ride and I always go right back there. Stock seat basically set the underside of my balls on fire on my trip to Texas. Sorry, I can't think of a better way to put that, that's where the pain is. Bought a Sargent seat (standard, not low), took a trip to Iowa this weekend.
The 2nd gen C14 like you (and I) have doesn't really make the seat that hot. And I have a Sargent [low] seat- they are not any hotter than stock (or probably any other seat). Also never had that problem on any of my other bikes. Sounds like you need to get underwear with reasonable support maybe?? Otherwise, there are plenty of seat topper options as listed above.
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The snake skin Tech Spec tank guards would definately help you. The side pieces allow you to grab with the insides of your legs and this prevents jamming up to the gas tank. I swear by them for letting me control my seat position. The rubber of the snake skin really grabs and holds onto your pants.
Next get bar risers and wedges or Heli Horizon bars.
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Are you "vertically challenged"? That may cause you to be too far forward and too much forward lean, thus crushing the jewels.
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I have bar risers and I LIKE sitting forward, it's the most natural position for me, I don't like leaning over. I bought the silver heat stuff and some Gold Bond medicated powder, the non extra strength kind. I am going to Arkansas for 5 days with friends, I will be wearing vented leather pants (and vented nylon jacket, gonna be warm) but will be on the FZ1, so the leathers will be warm, but the seat is better. I plan on using a LOT of the powder stuff, we'll see. I will report on my crotch state at the earliest convenience. Arkansas and southern Missouri are awesome for sport riding, by the way.
http://www.motorcycleroads.com/Routes/Arkansas_79.html (http://www.motorcycleroads.com/Routes/Arkansas_79.html)
Here's my favorite road in the world, County Road K between Annapolis and Ellington MO, it's in southern Missouri, it's awesome, it just flows, endless up and down and left and right, corners labeled from 50 mph to 20, just as good as it gets. I have ridden with a decent pack of friends (maybe 6) and when we get done, we just laugh at loud at the joy that road brings us.
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Are you "vertically challenged"? That may cause you to be too far forward and too much forward lean, thus crushing the jewels.
I'm average, 5'10, 195 and fit.
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I have bar risers and I LIKE sitting forward, it's the most natural position for me, I don't like leaning over. I bought the silver heat stuff and some Gold Bond medicated powder, the non extra strength kind. I am going to Arkansas for 5 days with friends, I will be wearing vented leather pants (and vented nylon jacket, gonna be warm) but will be on the FZ1, so the leathers will be warm, but the seat is better. I plan on using a LOT of the powder stuff, we'll see. I will report on my crotch state at the earliest convenience. Arkansas and southern Missouri are awesome for sport riding, by the way.
http://www.motorcycleroads.com/Routes/Arkansas_79.html (http://www.motorcycleroads.com/Routes/Arkansas_79.html)
Here's my favorite road in the world, County Road K between Annapolis and Ellington MO, it's in southern Missouri, it's awesome, it just flows, endless up and down and left and right, corners labeled from 50 mph to 20, just as good as it gets. I have ridden with a decent pack of friends (maybe 6) and when we get done, we just laugh at loud at the joy that road brings us.
I'm in love with Push Mountain Rd in north-central Arkansas (south of Mountain Home). From near Norfolk south to near Big Flat. I think it's officially State Hwy 341.
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We're riding Push Mountain south from Norfork to 14, then taking 123 (the crooked and steep part) and staying in Yellville. Then the next day (my birthday, what a present) we're riding it the other way.
Me - 2005 FZ1
Jim - Ducati Streetfighter
Jeff - HD XR1200
Jake - Vstrom 1000
Paul - Guzzi California
Steve - CBR600
Yeah, that's some variety. And the guy with the Duc is no slouch, let me tell you. That thing is FAST, holy smokes.
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Remove Silhouettes of neoprene that wrap around the side of the radiator, do not travel with little fuel in the tank
MG valerio ;)
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Several of the guys I ride with wear bicycle shorts. They provide some extra padding in the sensitive areas and, in your case, some additional insulation.
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Just spent amazing two weeks in Colorado, Utah and Arizona - our days full of "hard core" riding - and the combination of padded bicycle shorts and Airhawk cushion seems to work really well for me, FYI .
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I'm in love with Push Mountain Rd in north-central Arkansas (south of Mountain Home). From near Norfolk south to near Big Flat. I think it's officially State Hwy 341.
I've been to Arkansas twice on different bikes. Push Mountain is my favorite road in all of Arkansas, at least the top is after they repaved it. The bottom gets kind of rough. It's the first place I accidentally dragged pegs, I was riding my Sprint ST at the time. There's another really sweet road right in the south side of Missouri, but I can't remember the name of it right now. It's like riding the Isle of Man. ;D
Also on the more delicate subject.. I live in Houston, I use Gold Bond every day to keep the boys cool and comfortable. Don't use the extra strength stuff though, that is a little too powerful. Tried it once and threw away the bottle. When I do a week ride like I do to Arkansas, I just put some extra powder right in the bottom of my undies before I put my riding shorts on. It helps to keep everything dry down there. I also keep a small bottle in the tank bag for rest stops. The other thing I do is wear some sports shorts that are made of a material that will easily slide within my riding pants. This helps to keep things from getting bunched up while moving around on the seat. Gotta keep the boys comfortable man. If the boys ain't happy, I ain't happy. LOL
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If you're wearing bicycle shorts. leave your undies at home. I asked at the bicycle shop when I bought mine. That's what the bicycle guys do.
You might try an Airhawk. I have an Airhawk 2, my ass still goes numb but the the boys are fine. The Airhawk R would be even better but it's $$
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The stock seat crushed my balls to. Had a upholstery shop remove the front horn of the stock seat.
Use the Alaskan Sheepskin seat cover and it helps alot. I use to weld and had a 8" square welders blanket I put under the seat pan to block any transfer of heat from the underside.
Bike shorts and try the Under Armour sports underwear with no seams.
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Try a pair of wicking hiking underwear. They get the moisture away from your skin when walking and probably work here, too. When skin gets sweaty and damp, then is hot or rubs against other skin (like a leg or toe to toe in a boot), blister occur. Powder dries it up initially, but ultimately fails.
@ZG: 1? Really? Like peppers, different temperatures.... ;-)
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@ZG: 1? Really? Like peppers, different temperatures.... ;-)
;D
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The bike is a 2012 C14. I have no idea how to state this other than just saying it outright. The underside of my "boys" feels like it sets on fire after a while. I have always sat fairly far forward on almost all my bikes. I can't see changing my riding position, it's just the way I ride and I always go right back there.
Stock seat basically set the underside of my balls on fire on my trip to Texas. Sorry, I can't think of a better way to put that, that's where the pain is. Bought a Sargent seat (standard, not low), took a trip to Iowa this weekend. Took the long way home, my God, I was really suffering, which I find frustrating because I just spent $450 on that sucker. It's a nice seat but has the same problem. It's now for sale in the for sale section, btw, pretty good price. It's about a week old and nearly $100 off.
I tried some LD rider shorts, OMG they burned. So now I will try some Gold Bond Medicated powder to avoid the sweat? Maybe just baby powder, the Gold Bond has menthol in it and feels cool but not sure if that's good. I got the extra strength and a heavy application of that caused a heat issue just standing there, let alone riding on a bike for hours.
My FZ1 doesn't do that (or not bad enough to where it's torture), my C10 didn't do that either. This sucks! I love to ride long distances, we are going to Arkansas leaving Wednesday at noon, will return Sunday and I am taking the FZ1. I will prolly just go by some baby powder and apply that liberally and pray it helps. It's gonna be pretty hot too and I will prolly be wearing my vented leather pants, which won't make for a cool scrotal area but I feel like it's important to be protected. '
Sorry for the overly accurate description!
I've decided you should take the simple route and just let everyone know...
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They let that one slide by, eh?
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They let that one slide by, eh?
He-he... Also reserved "BGKAWK"!
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I've had just a couple of fire gals on mine that.... nevermind :D
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I've had just a couple of fire gals on mine that.... nevermind :D
That's what she said... ;)
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Damn this is going to really wreck my already bad reputation here. :-[I have this problem bad. I have done just about every mod suggested to reduce the heat. I ride on beads on top of a sheepskin on the stock seat. My nuts are still cooking on warm days. I have to stand up to give them air every 20 miles or so. I even bought an infra red-thermometer to check the temperature of the seat and tank. It turns out the seat and tank are not getting all that hot. At least not hot enough to be the main cause of my discomfort. I am beginning to think that it may not be the bike but me. I believe that my skin in that area has become overly sensitive as a side affect of some very powerful medication I took for several months to control psoriasis. Soriatane. This medicine is nasty enough to prohibit giving blood for three years. Mosquitos won't even bite me anymore! And my nether regions tend to chafe in places they never did before. It also made the nails on my right hand fall off. The left hand is fine.
BUT, it cured my psoriasis. The medicine is said to stay in your system for three years if you don't use alcohol. God knows how long it will stay in mine.
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Having owned an 06 Sprint GT with the underseat nut roaster exhaust, I can tell you that the C14 seat doesn't get appreciably hot. There were a lot of things I loved about that bike, but the underseat exhaust was one of the reasons I got rid of it. I'll probably never own another bike with an underseat exhaust if I can help it.
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I am beginning to think that it may not be the bike but me.
Yep
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I tried cutting and sewing zippers into a pair of jeans so that they would supply ample air supply to the boys when open (most of the time). The zippers were there for the brief periods that I was off the bike and didn't want a indecent exposure charge. The only problem with this was the connie doesn't get much airflow down there.
I found that when the boys were cool I felt cool and vice versa so I've even resorted to dumping water on my crotch while riding and standing up to let evaporation do it's thing.
Hope you find something that works.
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:rotflmao: I'm sorry guys, but I'm finding this thread totally hilarious..
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I tried cutting and sewing zippers into a pair of jeans so that they would supply ample air supply to the boys when open (most of the time). The zippers were there for the brief periods that I was off the bike and didn't want a indecent exposure charge. The only problem with this was the connie doesn't get much airflow down there.
Maybe you should try wearing a kilt when riding? :-\
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Maybe some of those flexible refreezable ice packs under an Alaskan Sheepskin? Keep a few in the cooler in the top case.
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You need to shower more often, and use SOAP
Try a medicated shampoo like what I use on my dogs
FLEA ASSAULT should be good for crabs :)
http://youtu.be/o8tnbnU0nHY (http://youtu.be/o8tnbnU0nHY)
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Maybe you should try wearing a kilt when riding? :-\
Great idea! On local rides I wouldn't even look out of place... there are a lot of Irish around here.
Think of the airflow. Think of the freedom. Think of the errant bee that comes flying in at 70 mph.
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I tried cutting and sewing zippers into a pair of jeans so that they would supply ample air supply to the boys when open (most of the time).
Um... wow.
The zippers were there for the brief periods that I was off the bike and didn't want a indecent exposure charge.
If showing underwear led to indecent exposure charges, they would be handed out left and right all over the place, yo.
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Great idea! On local rides I wouldn't even look out of place... there are a lot of Irish around here.
Think of the airflow. Think of the freedom. Think of the errant bee that comes flying in at 70 mph.
The Irish just recently took up the wearing of kilts at the turn of the 20th century so it's probably not a common place thing with them and probably would seem a bit out of place, at least to me. The Scottish, on the other hand, took up wearing kilts in the 16th century so I think if you have a heavy population of Scots, you would see more of them around. For instance most people on seeing a gentleman wearing a kilt and playing the bagpipes would immediately assume them as being Scottish and they probably would be right in that case.
Kilts appear to be catching on all over the world. Kilt wearing locals have been seen in Wales, Cornwall, Isle of Man, Brittany, Galicia Spain, Tras-os-Montes Portugal, Normandy, and parts of northeast England.
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I'm thinking that someone might need some water cooled underwear...
Google it.
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Its not a dress.......it's a kilt sicko!!!!!!
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I wear these shorts by Ex Officio all the time. They are always on sale as they are pricey. I've done a week long rafting trip in the Grand Canyon with one pair of these, one shirt, and one pair of shorts. Just a little camping soap, wash them in the Colorado River.... wash yourself.....ring them out and put them back on. Sun has you all dry in 5 min. I will try those Under Armour shorts also for more support.
http://www.campmor.com/ex-officio-mens-give-n-go-boxer-brief.shtml?source=CI&ci_sku=72115BLKL&ci_gpa=pla&ci_kw= (http://www.campmor.com/ex-officio-mens-give-n-go-boxer-brief.shtml?source=CI&ci_sku=72115BLKL&ci_gpa=pla&ci_kw=)
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I rode for 4 days in MOAR (Missouri/Arkansas) on my FZ1 in hot weather wearing my vented leather pants and had the issue a bit but not as bad. I used the daylights out of Gold Bond Medicated powder, the low strength stuff. Not too bad, not as bad as the C14. Then I did a ton of stuff yesterday outside yesterday and got all sweaty and jumped on the C14 to run to the store and knew it was the bike. The bike is by nature less smooth/more snatchy in on/off throttle transitions, which puts friction on 'the boys'. I was in shorts (just running to the store, am normally ATGATT) and my legs were sweaty so I was easily able to grip the tank to prevent the pitching back and forth on throttle transitions.
I am selling the Sargent seat, I didn't like it. I rode with it last night and it made it 'pitchier'? Put the stock seat back on and rode to work today, it is less pitchy, am going to put that reflective heat tape on, powder the boys and try some suspension adjustment.
I took the picture below, this was just after riding 341 (aka Push Mountain Road) south to north. We had ridden it north to south the day before. For the last 3 years, I have set up a road trip to MOAR on my birthday and invited friends, big fun. Man, the roads are great down there. The women are another story though, hoo boy. If you are looking for a large lady that smokes and is festooned with inexpensive tattoos, look no further.
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I rode for 4 days in MOAR (Missouri/Arkansas) on my FZ1 in hot weather wearing my vented leather pants and had the issue a bit but not as bad. I used the daylights out of Gold Bond Medicated powder, the low strength stuff. Not too bad, not as bad as the C14. Then I did a ton of stuff yesterday outside yesterday and got all sweaty and jumped on the C14 to run to the store and knew it was the bike. The bike is by nature less smooth/more snatchy in on/off throttle transitions, which puts friction on 'the boys'. I was in shorts (just running to the store, am normally ATGATT) and my legs were sweaty so I was easily able to grip the tank to prevent the pitching back and forth on throttle transitions.
I am selling the Sargent seat, I didn't like it. I rode with it last night and it made it 'pitchier'? Put the stock seat back on and rode to work today, it is less pitchy, am going to put that reflective heat tape on, powder the boys and try some suspension adjustment.
I took the picture below, this was just after riding 341 (aka Push Mountain Road) south to north. We had ridden it north to south the day before. For the last 3 years, I have set up a road trip to MOAR on my birthday and invited friends, big fun. Man, the roads are great down there. The women are another story though, hoo boy. If you are looking for a large lady that smokes and is festooned with inexpensive tattoos, look no further.
I would give it more than one ride before you decide. The seat is infinitely more comfortable on long rides than the stock seat. I didn't really experience the "pitchy" feeling you experienced, but any change in ergonomics will make the bike feel different.
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I would give it more than one ride before you decide.
I did a 2.5 hour ride up to Iowa and it was ok, but then did a 5 hour ride home and thought my balls were going to burst into flame (not as much fun as it sounds), that's enough for me. I made this post after riding home that weekend.
The seat is infinitely more comfortable on long rides than the stock seat.
Maybe for your butt, but not for mine. It's narrow in the front, which makes for a lot of pressure in a small area and if I'm in front, it's taller because there is a rise in the seat near the front. This makes me more tiptoed in a parking lot situation, not something I am fond of on a 700 lb bike which is frequently heavily loaded. Not saying the Sargent is a bad seat, it just doesn't work for me.
I didn't really experience the "pitchy" feeling you experienced, but any change in ergonomics will make the bike feel different.
It's not something you notice when you are comfortable with or used to the bike, more something that is noticed when you switch from another bike to this one, in my case, my 2005 FZ1, which is chain drive and doesn't pitch forward heavily when rolling off the throttle. Riding the FZ1 for 1500 miles to MOAR and back, then jumping on the C14 made me aware of pitching, as did a PM from someone. I have resolved to smooth out the throttle transitions to allay this issue when possible.
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Yes a real problem "Hot Nuts"
But seriously if it is caused by heat,
Wear something like LD comfort riding pants to wick moisture away from the skin, use a bead seat to increase air flow under your butt and try using an air deflector on each side to direct airflow into your groin area - Modified Baker Air Wings as an example.
If the burn is caused by saddle time, then try altering your seated position occasionally, try standing up and doing some squats and change your leg positions, this takes the pressure off and allows some circulation into the area.
For the record I have had the Numb Bum and the Hot Nuts too, finding the right combination is an individual thing.
I have tried -
The stock seat by itself, with an air hawk and with a bead rider,
I changed to a Corbin because I did not like the seat sliding me into the tank, with the Corbin I have done LD on the bare seat, with an Air Hawk and with a Bead Rider.
The Corbin is as hard as concrete as well but you do get used to it.
I use the LD Comfort Shorts and I have settled on the Bead Rider, Simply for the improved air flow, it also lets the water drain out while riding in heavy rain as well.
This works for me, I still find on long days that I will stand in the pegs now and then, I also have Hwy Pegs to stretch my legs out as well.
Best of luck with finding your own solution, keep trying
Cheers
Paul
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In addition, you could try Duluth's Ball Room jeans. They have more room in the front for the guys and the jeans contain some stretchy material which helps when they get sweat soaked. They stretch, unlike normal jeans that seem to tighten up.
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Abercrombie, Ralph Lauren, or Lucky Brand Jeans and a pair of Ralph Lauren britches and I'm good for 1000 mile days :D
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Maybe you should try wearing a kilt when riding? :-\
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Abercrombie, Ralph Lauren, or Lucky Brand Jeans and a pair of Ralph Lauren britches and I'm good for 1000 mile days :D
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I would give it more than one ride before you decide.
I did a 2.5 hour ride up to Iowa and it was ok, but then did a 5 hour ride home and thought my balls were going to burst into flame (not as much fun as it sounds), that's enough for me. I made this post after riding home that weekend.
The seat is infinitely more comfortable on long rides than the stock seat.
Maybe for your butt, but not for mine. It's narrow in the front, which makes for a lot of pressure in a small area and if I'm in front, it's taller because there is a rise in the seat near the front. This makes me more tiptoed in a parking lot situation, not something I am fond of on a 700 lb bike which is frequently heavily loaded. Not saying the Sargent is a bad seat, it just doesn't work for me.
I didn't really experience the "pitchy" feeling you experienced, but any change in ergonomics will make the bike feel different.
It's not something you notice when you are comfortable with or used to the bike, more something that is noticed when you switch from another bike to this one, in my case, my 2005 FZ1, which is chain drive and doesn't pitch forward heavily when rolling off the throttle. Riding the FZ1 for 1500 miles to MOAR and back, then jumping on the C14 made me aware of pitching, as did a PM from someone. I have resolved to smooth out the throttle transitions to allay this issue when possible.
My comment about the Sargent being more comfortable than the stock is related to pain, not heat. If I were out near you I would let you try out my Corbin. I almost made it out there this past weekend, I had considered riding to Iowa to see family. The Corbin doesn't make me as hot as either the stock seat or the Sargent, although on very rough roads it can beat you up, something the Sargent doesn't do.
Thanks for explaining what you mean by pitchy, now I get what you are saying.
I truly understand what you are experiencing though. I too feel the heat on long rides in hot weather, it is the main reason I decided to try the Corbin after using the Sargent. I truly love the comfort of the Sargent, I just wanted to see if the Corbin helped with the heat issue.
I have the LD Comfort riding pants and various Underarmour and underwear like them, they all help, to a degree. I usually ride in a pair of AVG Telluride pants and they help insulate me from the bike a bit more than jeans do. I often simply wear a pair of lightweight unpadded mountain bike shorts along with Underarmour underwear, or even regular boxers under them so I can remove the pants and put on a pair of flip flops if I want to be off the bike for a while. I think the riding pants did the most to help combat the heat for me.
I seriously love the comfort of the Sargent although I believe it could be a slight touch firmer than it is. It broke in a bit more than desired. The Corbin is decent on the interstate but on a ride across West Virginia on small back roads and route 50, it had me in serious pain due to the bumps. My wife prefers the Corbin unfortunately since it prevents her form sliding forward. She also ends up with a sore posterior with it though. I will have to take her on a long trip to see if her opinion changes.
Good luck.
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I will say that fire in the pants is better than fire in the hole! :yikes:
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Balls in a cool and ankles, now you can turn with flip-flops.
http://youtu.be/3S5p1WcwLaI (http://youtu.be/3S5p1WcwLaI)
MG valerio. :rotflmao:
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I'm not sure that I would ride with flip flops, MG, no matter how cool the bike is.... Besides, his bike is an '11. He shouldn't be having this issue.
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I recently purchased a pair of Olympia Air Glide 3 Mesh Tech pants. I really like them they flow the air very well. I stand up occasionally when I'm hot and it's like having ram air jets to your boys.
http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com/14/67/908/38490/ITEM/Olympia-Airglide-3-Mesh-Tech-Over-Pants.aspx (http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com/14/67/908/38490/ITEM/Olympia-Airglide-3-Mesh-Tech-Over-Pants.aspx)
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Besides, his bike is an '11.
Ciao Jim ;D my bike in September of 2007
MG valerio.
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Balls in a cool and ankles, now you can turn with flip-flops.
MG valerio. :rotflmao:
Flip flops are NEVER appropriate on a bike, as the driver or pillion. The mod you are showing with the insulation is only needed on a 1st gen, the 2nd gen already has that from the start- and a heat shield on the mid-pipe, and vent holes that throw the hot air further out from the rider.
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Ciao Jim ;D my bike in September of 2007
MG valerio.
BTW, I like your new avatar.
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Balls in a cool and ankles, now you can turn with flip-flops.
MG valerio. :rotflmao:
Yeah, but can you put the bike on the centerstand barefooted?
;D
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Yeah, but can you put the bike on the centerstand barefooted?
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Where is the facepalm smiley?
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If you hit the [more] link under the normal smiley set you should be able to find it, assuming you are running the current/default set... :doh: along with my personal favorite.. :censored:
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If you hit the [more] link under the normal smiley set you should be able to find it, assuming you are running the current/default set... :doh: along with my personal favorite.. :censored:
Wow- all this time and I had no idea that was there... :doh: :nuts:
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Wow- all this time and I had no idea that was there... :doh: :nuts:
Wow, I've used the "more" smileys many times and never saw it. :doh:
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So this thread was worth something after all?
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I will say that fire in the pants is better than fire in the hole! :yikes:
or perhaps fire as a result of a hole (http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j180/stevewfl/avatars/badteeth.gif) (http://s80.photobucket.com/user/stevewfl/media/avatars/badteeth.gif.html)
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Yeah, but can you put the bike on the centerstand barefooted?
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Oh boy...
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Yeah, but can you put the bike on the centerstand barefooted?
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Yes,have crowbar. :rotflmao:
MG valerio. ;D
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More than one way to do that! :thumbs:
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I have PMed Play in Peoria on some of the similar issues he expresses. What I suggested is dropping the suspension down and running lower rebound. After a couple of weeks and three 2 day trips ranging from 900 to 600 miles I have come up with my solution to my problem. I have concluded the problem exists because of the effects of the bike shifting back and forth causing a 'shearing' force of your soft parts staying in contact with the seat and my body shifting weight fore and back. I suspect or wonder if the less endowed with excess energy reserves are affected as badly. One thing I am absolutely certain about is the footpeg position does not help in this matter. If the footpeg position were even and inch more forward as the legs could absorb this shift more easily. To give a more radical example is years ago I owner a BMW R100RS. That bike had a much more forward seating position and the suspension had a huge amount of travel, almost double the C-14 in the front, and it was very softly sprung so it rocked like a hobby horse on throttle transitions. The big difference here was the footpeg position was way forward and the feet supported you on front end dive.
I have settled on adjusting the front fork preload to much softer than what is normal around these parts. I got this idea from the folks at Sonic Springs when I inquired about stouter front fork springs. I did not ask them to verify if all years C-14 spring but was lead to believe that the later models were different in there comment that the "later models of C-14 spring rates and length were close to perfect" and there recommendation was not to exceed 5mm preload. He said pick something in the middle of 5mm. Now since there is 19mm of effective load possible on the preload adjuster 5mm would be 14mm to 19mm. I picked 16.5mm as the middle ground. With this setting and 18-20 clicks preload on the rear at a stop I can still rock the bike back and forth but on the road the rocking is next to gone. Of course if I was bottoming out or handling suffered I would not even be posting this here. Just came back from Roanoke and suffered from a little burn on thw down and then adjusted as above and none on the way back.
I have Murphs lowering pegs but I am thinking about the Vario 30mm arms for the front and fitting some Kuryakyn pegs to get the front forward and slightly down. Peg scrapers may not approve but this may be just the ticket.
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One thing I am absolutely certain about is the footpeg position does not help in this matter. ;)
MG valerio. 8)
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or perhaps fire as a result of a hole (http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j180/stevewfl/avatars/badteeth.gif) (http://s80.photobucket.com/user/stevewfl/media/avatars/badteeth.gif.html)
Patient: Doctor, I'm experiencing a burning sensation when I ride my Connie.
Doctor: I'm afraid you have an STD, Sport Touring Disease.
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(http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTCjHfXO0P_krbMrCkMVxKFPqXhwWeD6mn8o7bInpPoaCyvqwjD45icFRAk)
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I suspect or wonder if the less endowed .
SOO what are you saying ... us bitche$ don't have anthing there ..... so we don't have a problem?
??? ??? :hail:
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Maybe he should use this product....
http://www.filterace.com/p-220-sweat-free-insulation-15-oz-spray-can.aspx?gclid=CNnAlLeem7gCFY6i4Aod628AQg (http://www.filterace.com/p-220-sweat-free-insulation-15-oz-spray-can.aspx?gclid=CNnAlLeem7gCFY6i4Aod628AQg)
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This may help, simply pre-cool the seat.
(http://i1038.photobucket.com/albums/a468/RCRide/Concours%201400/frostyseat_corbin.jpg)
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This may help, simply pre-cool the seat.
(http://i1038.photobucket.com/albums/a468/RCRide/Concours%201400/frostyseat_corbin.jpg)
:yikes: :yikes: :yikes:
And that's why I love my heated Corbin... ;) ;D
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Reviving an old thread. I am still having problems, did several rides and man, they hurt. My brother (also a member on here) is going to loan me his Seth Laam seat for next weekend. Nice brother, eh? If I like it, I will buy one.
We are going to Rockerbox, which has been moved to Road America, where it's combined with vintage races. I loved the Rockerbox event in Milwaukee but it has gotten insanely crowded as it grew in popularity. Funny thing, they always made it the same weekend as Sturgis to cut down on the pirate crowd.
Rockerbox 2011. It's a rather electic event, to say the least.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/cpsmith58/sets/72157627265453643/ (https://www.flickr.com/photos/cpsmith58/sets/72157627265453643/)