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The C-14, aka Kawasaki Concours-14, the new one :) => Accessories and modifications - C14/GTR 1400 => Topic started by: reesedp on June 02, 2013, 11:45:31 AM

Title: My KiPASS will NEVER need a bypass!!
Post by: reesedp on June 02, 2013, 11:45:31 AM
Washed her for the first time this year.  Cleaned and lubed my gas cap.  Ensured my KiPASS will NEVER have any sort of problem by installing Brians bypass harness!!  High quality harness with fail safe instructions.  Thanks again Brian!
Title: Re: My KiPASS will NEVER need a bypass!!
Post by: Daytona_Mike on June 02, 2013, 01:17:26 PM
Never say never. It only bypasses the activation switch.  Still a very good thing to get

NOTE: you will still need a functioning fob to start the bike! This harness DOES NOT by pass KiPass, only the KiPass activation switch. This harness cannot be used to replace a lost / broken fob or steal a C-14.This by pass does address the only problem that KiPass has ever had, to the best of my knowledge, 100% of the time though and cannot fail to work around a stuck switch.
Title: Re: My KiPASS will NEVER need a bypass!!
Post by: B.D.F. on June 02, 2013, 03:10:34 PM
Thanks for the kind words and glad it worked well for you.

Hopefully you have already gotten the biggest benefit from installing it- you will just forget about the entire thing and never, ever give it another thought. The great majority of systems never fail but I think there is always that doubt, that wisp of doubt way in the back of a C-14 rider's head. Sort of like walking down the road with an extra 15 lbs. of weight strapped to our back- nothing that is really horrible but a constant drain. Once the bypass is installed I have found, and others have mentioned, an increased sense of confidence. Sort of like a spare tire- by far the great majority of them are never used but every single car on the road was supplied with one.

Brian

Washed her for the first time this year.  Cleaned and lubed my gas cap.  Ensured my KiPASS will NEVER have any sort of problem by installing Brians bypass harness!!  High quality harness with fail safe instructions.  Thanks again Brian!
Title: Re: My KiPASS will NEVER need a bypass!!
Post by: B.D.F. on June 02, 2013, 03:13:00 PM
You are absolutely correct but that activation switch is the only part of KiPass that I have ever known to fail. And it will absolutely stop you cold if it does fail. All of the other 'issues' with KiPass are either operator errors or minor things that have already been anticipated and a work- around provide, such as a dead fob battery.

Brian

Never say never. It only bypasses the activation switch.  Still a very good thing to get

NOTE: you will still need a functioning fob to start the bike! This harness DOES NOT by pass KiPass, only the KiPass activation switch. This harness cannot be used to replace a lost / broken fob or steal a C-14.This by pass does address the only problem that KiPass has ever had, to the best of my knowledge, 100% of the time though and cannot fail to work around a stuck switch.
Title: Re: My KiPASS will NEVER need a bypass!!
Post by: VirginiaJim on June 02, 2013, 04:38:41 PM
Happened to me twice.  Yelled at it and twisted the key around a couple of times and it started working again.  Didn't have the bypass then, wish I did.  I still carry a silver hammer around just in case...makes me feel good.
Title: Re: My KiPASS will NEVER need a bypass!!
Post by: tonedeaf on June 02, 2013, 09:51:49 PM
Got the dreaded TRANSPONSDER: BATTERY LOW error today. Had to watch the silly thing for 2 hours until the next gas stop (I ride with a impatient group). I divided my time between pushing and holding all the different buttons combination trying to get it to stop and wondering if I really remembered the transponder dead battery routine. Anyway, when we finally got gas and I restarted the message went away (I think maybe it heard me thinking that I had not seen the time pressure sensor monitor low battery warning yet this year).
Title: Re: My KiPASS will NEVER need a bypass!!
Post by: maxtog on June 02, 2013, 10:08:20 PM
Got the dreaded TRANSPONSDER: BATTERY LOW error today. Had to watch the silly thing for 2 hours until the next gas stop

You should be able to clear it just like a low gas or other "warning" message.  It isn't simple (nor probably safe) to do while moving, but I do it all the time.

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I divided my time between pushing and holding all the different buttons combination trying to get it to stop and wondering if I really remembered

top hold, bottom hold, bottom release, top release.  Seems like I have about a 33% success rate at any given try :)
Title: Re: My KiPASS will NEVER need a bypass!!
Post by: B.D.F. on June 02, 2013, 10:15:05 PM
I do not believe that is the right sequence Max- how about this:

Press and hold the top button.
Press and release the bottom button.
Release the top button.

The warning will clear when you release the bottom button.

Brian

You should be able to clear it just like a low gas or other "warning" message.  It isn't simple (nor probably safe) to do while moving, but I do it all the time.

top hold, bottom hold, top release, bottom release.  Seems like I have about a 33% success rate at any given try :)
Title: Re: My KiPASS will NEVER need a bypass!!
Post by: VirginiaJim on June 03, 2013, 04:44:39 AM
Is that the same on all years?  I thought they put one of those button thingies on the left handlebar for the 10+ bikes.

To the OP, it helps tremendously telling us what year the bike is when describing issues..  Many systems and mechanicals are the same for all years but there are some significant differences between the 08-09 and the 10+.
Title: Re: My KiPASS will NEVER need a bypass!!
Post by: 556ALPHA on June 03, 2013, 06:17:41 AM
Thanks for the kind words and glad it worked well for you.

Hopefully you have already gotten the biggest benefit from installing it- you will just forget about the entire thing and never, ever give it another thought. The great majority of systems never fail but I think there is always that doubt, that wisp of doubt way in the back of a C-14 rider's head. Sort of like walking down the road with an extra 15 lbs. of weight strapped to our back- nothing that is really horrible but a constant drain. Once the bypass is installed I have found, and others have mentioned, an increased sense of confidence. Sort of like a spare tire- by far the great majority of them are never used but every single car on the road was supplied with one.

Brian

That is funny because I actually forgot I had it installed......nut I have not needed it and I do not worry about Kipass with the bypass peace of mind
Title: Re: My KiPASS will NEVER need a bypass!!
Post by: maxtog on June 03, 2013, 06:48:48 AM
I do not believe that is the right sequence Max- how about this:

Press and hold the top button.
Press and release the bottom button.
Release the top button.

The warning will clear when you release the bottom button.

I do believe you are correct,  thanks.  Not sure what what I wrote came from.  I will correct it now.
Title: Re: My KiPASS will NEVER need a bypass!!
Post by: reesedp on June 03, 2013, 11:20:13 AM
You should be able to clear it just like a low gas or other "warning" message.  It isn't simple (nor probably safe) to do while moving, but I do it all the time.

top hold, bottom hold, bottom release, top release.  Seems like I have about a 33% success rate at any given try :)

Tongue in left or right cheek for this procedure Max?
Title: Re: My KiPASS will NEVER need a bypass!!
Post by: stevewfl on June 03, 2013, 04:05:33 PM
I do not believe that is the right sequence Max- how about this:

Press and hold the top button.
Press and release the bottom button.
Release the top button.

The warning will clear when you release the bottom button.

Brian

Thats too simple. maybe I should've read the owner's or service manual at some point!
Title: Re: My KiPASS will NEVER need a bypass!!
Post by: maxtog on June 03, 2013, 05:46:40 PM
Tongue in left or right cheek for this procedure Max?

Eh, who knows.  Probably wrinkled forehead from being pissed at having to play such a silly game every time, instead of just pressing the handlebar button once.
Title: Re: My KiPASS will NEVER need a bypass!!
Post by: gPink on June 03, 2013, 06:11:12 PM
What is this mystical 'Handlebar Button' of which you all speak?
Title: Re: My KiPASS will NEVER need a bypass!!
Post by: B.D.F. on June 03, 2013, 06:33:52 PM
Either that or at least some method to get rid of that terrible, terrible warning. Let's all think, what could we do about that? Might there be some way to.... I don't know, interrupt that pesky warning screen? <looks up at sky, looks down at floor> There must be SOMETHING we could do....

 :rotflmao:

Brian

Eh, who knows.  Probably wrinkled forehead from being pissed at having to play such a silly game every time, instead of just pressing the handlebar button once.
Title: Re: My KiPASS will NEVER need a bypass!!
Post by: tonedeaf on June 03, 2013, 09:43:41 PM
I believe that we need to create an app for this. When the warning comes on, your cell phone (which you have mounted next to you Garmin GPS) will connect by BlueTooth to the on board computer. This will ring the RF tag in your radar detector (which you have mounted next to your Gaarmin GPS), which is connect via WiFi to your iPad (which you have mounted next to the radar detector) which will coordinate movement of the cell phone, radar detector, iPad and all other devices you have mounted in various places. This coordinated movement of all the devices will completely occlude the dashboard and any annoying messages that might be obscuring any useful information that you might want to see on the dashboard. You will then be clueless but at least you wont be annoyed.
Title: Re: My KiPASS will NEVER need a bypass!!
Post by: lablank on June 04, 2013, 07:27:44 AM
I believe that we need to create an app for this. When the warning comes on, your cell phone (which you have mounted next to you Garmin GPS) will connect by BlueTooth to the on board computer. This will ring the RF tag in your radar detector (which you have mounted next to your Gaarmin GPS), which is connect via WiFi to your iPad (which you have mounted next to the radar detector) which will coordinate movement of the cell phone, radar detector, iPad and all other devices you have mounted in various places. This coordinated movement of all the devices will completely occlude the dashboard and any annoying messages that might be obscuring any useful information that you might want to see on the dashboard. You will then be clueless but at least you wont be annoyed.

Hey Tonedeaf: Does it matter which side the cell phone is mounted next to the GPS? Mine is mounted on the left!!   :P
Title: Re: My KiPASS will NEVER need a bypass!!
Post by: tonedeaf on June 04, 2013, 09:01:48 PM
Hey Tonedeaf: Does it matter which side the cell phone is mounted next to the GPS? Mine is mounted on the left!!   :P

Depends on how we write the app. Ambidextrous apps are much harder to write.