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The C-14, aka Kawasaki Concours-14, the new one :) => The Bike - C14/GTR 1400 => Topic started by: Bob on June 03, 2011, 07:34:54 PM
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I just noticed this in the manual and figured that I'd pass this on. This is not a joke by any means. It's a warning that I came across in the service manual when I was researching error codes. This could apply to some folk. I wasn't aware of this and thought that some others may not be as well. So from the book:
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Warning:
KIPASS may interfere with the operation of certain medical device such as implanted pacemakers and implanted cardiac defibrillators. The FOB key or the antenna of KIPASS ECU must be kept more than 22 cm (9 in.) from these type of medical devices. Operators with medical devices such as implanted pacemakers and implanted cardiac defibrillators should consult with their doctors.
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Soooooo...
Don't carry a transponder in your shirt pocket if?
It's Next to your heart.
You have a device directly connected directly and implanted into your body, an electronic device that controls the rhythm of your heart...
Common sense if you have one.
Darwinism if you don't.
THATS an error with code red!
And it took how many years to find this in the manual?
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this is kind of along those lines.
i was exiting the KS turnpike and was paying my toll and the machine was having a issue taking my money, it wouldnt, and a voice comes over the speaker and says the sensors picked up your "K-Tag" (prepay for the toll roads) ok.....i dont have a K-Tag. so i guess that the KiPass acts as a K-Tag as well! thanks Kawi!
oh and there was not another person around that it couldnt have picked up a stray K-Tag.
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I think Cap'n Bob found this particular tidbit in a Yamaha advertising brochure.... ;D
Cap'n Bob: protecting the innocent and guilty alike from the ravages of KiPass since 2007.... with no end in sight. :o ;D
Brian
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And it took how many years to find this in the manual?
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Yes, yes, yes...we've had this discussion in the previous incarnation of the forum but thanks for bringing it to our attention. So unless your pacemaker is in your a** or you carry your fob next to your heart, you should be ok. Bob, thanks for looking out for us.... :thumbs:
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Well, as long as we are chewing on old topics, can I use old photos?
I keep my fob in a nice wooden bowl. Hey, it isn't Amboyna Burl from Southeast Asia but it is as close as I could get.
(http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f82/BDF08012008/FobnBowl.jpg)
ROFLMAO two times.
Brian
Yes, yes, yes...we've had this discussion in the previous incarnation of the forum but thanks for bringing it to our attention. So unless your pacemaker is in your a** or you carry your fob next to your heart, you should be ok. Bob, thanks for looking out for us.... :thumbs:
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You are absolutely welcome to use old photos... :)
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Actually I was just looking for an error code for a guy with a fob problem in the manual, when I came across this. I thought maybe if someone had a pacemaker and hadn't seen this, they might like to! It could be in their best interest.
But no you got me. I really must spend my time searching for stuff on KIPASS so I can listen to all the KIPASS BS from the KIPASS schleps ! >:(
I think Cap'n Bob found this particular tidbit in a Yamaha advertising brochure.... ;D
Cap'n Bob: protecting the innocent and guilty alike from the ravages of KiPass since 2007.... with no end in sight. :o ;D
Brian
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:rotflmao:
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The first step in getting help is in admitting you have a problem.
You know if KiPass fails me in Hicksville, Wyoming at 2:00 AM I am going laugh so hard I choke on my own speen, right?(http://zggtr.org/Smileys/default/ROTFLMAO.gif)
Brian
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But no you got me. I really must spend my time searching for stuff on KIPASS so I can listen to all the KIPASS BS from the KIPASS schleps ! >:(
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lmao
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Cap'n Bob, I have a friend who has an implanted Cardiac defibrillator, and he has ridden my bike. When the DF goes off he says it will "bring him to his knees" as it is a pretty significant shock. Who it the world would have thought an ignition system could cripple a rider? Thanks for the head's-up, I doubt he will be riding my bike again.
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And the tale grows.....
:rotflmao:
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It's got me thinking I should have the fob implanted so I don't lose it. :o
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It's got me thinking I should have the fob implanted so I don't lose it. :o
Are you asking for suggestions on where it should be implanted? ;)
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Absolutely. There is nothing out of the reach or realm of KiPass. It is all- powerful and all- consuming. Nothing is too extreme to contribute to, compare with or reference against KiPass. And that is the beauty of the system! The incredibly over the top reactions to KiPass. It has lost all touch with reality and that in and of itself is comical. Sort of like our ancestors bowing down before volcanoes so they don't anger the gods of lava.
Just think about this: Cap'n Bob sold his C-14 a year ago and is now riding a Feejer. But he is still reading the manual and passing along public service announcements on a C-14 forum while not participating in any Feejer forums at all. KiPass is set so hard in his cheek that he has not been able to shake it off in a year; what other component of a motorcycle has that kind of power?
All hail KiPass. Even those who absolutely hate it cannot get away from its all encompassing effects and control.
I was introduced to KiPass in July of '07 and I have to say that pound for pound, cubic inch for cubic inch, nothing else on the planet has the same capacity for humor.
;D
Brian
And the tale grows.....
:rotflmao:
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I took you seriously Bob!!!! :thumbs:
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I took you seriously Bob!!!! :thumbs:
Of course you do....
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As well you should- one has to wonder what effect a KiPass fob might have on an inflatable penis insert, for example? Imagine you (whomever of you has an implant) are at a dinner party in formal evening wear and suddenly someone else's fob accidentally triggers your implant? The next thing you'll hear is 'It is not polite to point' and be escorted out. Assuming of course that there were escorts at the party in the first place.
Brian
I took you seriously Bob!!!! :thumbs:
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Here I thought the wood was from the thrill of the bike but it was just kipass. :'(
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The magical FOB from Kawasaki. The stories on the forum follow the FOB and all of its unlucky recipients, as it seems to wreak havoc and mayhem wherever it goes. Its power and magic ensnare the weak-minded and consume his/her every thought and action. It is the sum of all evils.
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As well you should- one has to wonder what effect a KiPass fob might have on an inflatable penis insert, for example? Imagine you (whomever of you has an implant) are at a dinner party in formal evening wear and suddenly someone else's fob accidentally triggers your implant? The next thing you'll hear is 'It is not polite to point' and be escorted out. Assuming of course that there were escorts at the party in the first place.
Brian
You could always discuss the first thing that pops up?
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Yep, it is terrible. Remember at Wellsboro how KiPass kept dropping water on those poor folks sitting in front of their rooms on the first floor? You just wouldn't expect that kind of behavior out of a simple authentication fob but we all saw it.... over and over again. And that was even after I warned people that they were sitting is a splash zone….
And I used to say "KiPass: it is like sex, only good."
Brian
The magical FOB from Kawasaki. The stories on the forum follow the FOB and all of its unlucky recipients, as it seems to wreak havoc and mayhem wherever it goes. Its power and magic ensnare the weak-minded and consume his/her every thought and action. It is the sum of all evils.
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Could KiPass be the new Loc-Nar?
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Cap'n Bob, I have a friend who has an implanted Cardiac defibrillator, and he has ridden my bike. When the DF goes off he says it will "bring him to his knees" as it is a pretty significant shock. Who it the world would have thought an ignition system could cripple a rider? Thanks for the head's-up, I doubt he will be riding my bike again.
I have an implanted difibrillator and have talked to my doctor about this type of interference, from what i have been told by the doctor and medtech place that checks the device every 6 months is that first it would be very rare that it could interefer with the device and if it did that it would not cause the device to falsely activate, but that it would be disabled untill the interference is gone. Obviously this could be more of a problem to a pace maker, That said throw it in the glove box and its far enough away to not worry about it.
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Ahhhh, now I know why my defibrilator goes off everytime I crank my C-14. :o
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Are you asking for suggestions on where it should be implanted? ;)
I am now!
:rotflmao:
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Does your defibrillator even fit in the glove box?
Oh wait, are you talking about the KiPass fob? <chuckle> There have been reports of problems with KiPass communicating with the fob when the fob is in the glove box. I think this will be worse on the later C-14s because the glove box is further away from the KiPass transceiver and the fuel tank is more directly in the communication path between them. The other problem with leaving the fob anywhere on the bike is theft; if you leave the fob on the bike when you walk away you take the risk of someone stealing it.
The glove box may work out OK for you, I just wanted to pass along this info. so you would be aware if you have any problems keeping the fob there.
Brian
I have an implanted difibrillator and have talked to my doctor about this type of interference, from what i have been told by the doctor and medtech place that checks the device every 6 months is that first it would be very rare that it could interefer with the device and if it did that it would not cause the device to falsely activate, but that it would be disabled untill the interference is gone. Obviously this could be more of a problem to a pace maker, That said throw it in the glove box and its far enough away to not worry about it.
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I just noticed this in the manual and figured that I'd pass this on. This is not a joke by any means. It's a warning that I came across in the service manual when I was researching error codes. "KIPASS may interfere with the operation of certain medical devices..."
That is just a standard disclaimer that just about EVERY device that uses RF is required to post by the FCC. Someone is far more likely to die from be abducted by aliens or being run over by an elephant charging across I95.
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It's got me thinking I should have the fob implanted so I don't lose it. :o
I think if you did that, you would never need a pacemaker. KiPass would keep your heart beating for you.
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I think if you did that, you would never need a pacemaker. KiPass would keep your heart beating for you.
Like I have a heart... :rotflmao:
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That is just a standard disclaimer that just about EVERY device that uses RF is required to post by the FCC. Someone is far more likely to die from be abducted by aliens or being run over by an elephant charging across I95.
My garage door opener remote has the same warning buried in the fine print in the instructions which nobody reads. It's amazing that any of us survive a day!
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I think if you did that, you would never need a pacemaker. KiPass would keep your heart beating for you.
And you would live forever.....