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The C-14, aka Kawasaki Concours-14, the new one :) => The Bike - C14/GTR 1400 => Topic started by: PlaynInPeoria on May 19, 2013, 07:31:34 PM
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Lately I have been leaving the fob in the glovebox on my 2012, despite the sticker. When riding, I kept getting a red light in the upper left and "Transponder missing" or something. I took the transponder out of the glovebox and it went away.
Why did I get this?
Why aren't you supposed to put the transponder in the glovebox?
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Why is the sky blue? These and other questions are hard to answer. However, it could be that the signal is being blocked (tinfoil lined glovebox?) or that it's being jammed by some farkle or foreign country. Maybe the fob battery is low as well.
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Lately I have been leaving the fob in the glovebox on my 2012, despite the sticker. When riding, I kept getting a red light in the upper left and "Transponder missing" or something. I took the transponder out of the glovebox and it went away.
Why did I get this?
Why aren't you supposed to put the transponder in the glovebox?
I get this if i put other stuff in glovebox like my phone or if it gets covered in a bunch of earplugs, etc wadded up in there.
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Why aren't you supposed to put the transponder in the glovebox?
1) Because it can have interference.
2) Because it is designed to be in your jacket or pants pocket.
3) Because you can forget about it and leave your bike completely open for theft.
4) Because if the electronic latch fails, you can't access the fob.
We just had this thread not even a week ago.
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Why is the sky blue?
It's the the damm molecules again!
Molecules in the air scatter blue light from the sun more than they scatter red light. When we look towards the sun at sunset, we see red and orange colours because the blue light has been scattered out and away from the line of sight.
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1) Because it can have interference.
2) Because it is designed to be in your jacket or pants pocket.
3) Because you can forget about it and leave your bike completely open for theft.
4) Because if the electronic latch fails, you can't access the fob.
We just had this thread not even a week ago.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ;D
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Why did I get this?
Because the gas tank gets in the way?
Why aren't you supposed to put the transponder in the glovebox?
Because anyone can steal the bike if you forget it's in there and walk away?
Did I win?
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Because the gas tank gets in the way?
Because anyone can steal the bike if you forget it's in there and walk away?
Did I win?
Yes, yes you did win! Collect your prize here. http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?topic=13741.msg169564#msg169564 (http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?topic=13741.msg169564#msg169564)
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We just had this thread not even a week ago.
Wow, must have 20 forum years ago. I really don't remember that one...
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Wow, must have 20 forum years ago. I really don't remember that one...
http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?topic=13676.0 (http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?topic=13676.0)
Last activity: 5 days from the start of THIS thread.
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Electronic ignition systems are the work of the devil. God's own bike has a $3 metal key. And he got 2 duplicates made at Home Depot, and hides 1 taped inside his saddlebag, for the inevitable "brain fade" episode.
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Because anyone can steal the bike if you forget it's in there and walk away?
Odd of someone stealing a JAPANESE bike in Peoria IL? Very low, to say the least.
Odds of me being dumb enough to forget it somewhere or otherwise hose myself? Several orders of magnitude higher.
Most aren't smart enough to figure out the fob thing, or just plain don't care. I have been living under the assumption that the effort saved by not securing things will at some point outweigh the inconvenience of losing said thing. If I go through life like this, at some point, it's a win and every day I don't have to dick with locking something up that most likely won't get stolen, I am ahead of the game and avoid the aggravation. See above, I live in the Peoria IL area, so there are not a ton of thieves relatively speaking and those that steal don't steal Japanese. YMMV. I also figure that most people think motorcyclists are just plain crazy and messing with a motorcyclist's stuff is akin to Russian roulette or the like. Again, just one man's opinion.
See, there IS an advantage to living in Illinois. 54 years and I finally found one!
And yeah, I should have searched.
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Electronic ignition systems are the work of the devil. God's own bike has a $3 metal key. And he got 2 duplicates made at Home Depot, and hides 1 taped inside his saddlebag, for the inevitable "brain fade" episode.
:chugbeer: :goodpost: :finger_fing11:
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That all may be true but I think to really eliminate the devil's work you need to ride a mule. Think about it for a moment and I believe you will find it the perfect mode of transportation for those with brain fade.... not only are there no electronics or pesky keys of any kind, the mule even knows the way home! It can even find 'fuel' by the side of the road (or path as the case may be). I think you folks limit yourselves too much when thinking about the 'good old days'- think about even older days and things were considerably better.
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Brian
Electronic ignition systems are the work of the devil. God's own bike has a $3 metal key. And he got 2 duplicates made at Home Depot, and hides 1 taped inside his saddlebag, for the inevitable "brain fade" episode.
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See, there IS an advantage to living in Illinois. 54 years and I finally found one!
So that's how long it takes. I tried twice and couldn't find it. I'm glad I gave up and left.
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See, there IS an advantage to living in Illinois. 54 years and I finally found one!
54 years eh? Hey, me too! Well, for a few more days anyways. 8)
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Maybe the op wants to keep the transponder in the glove box because when he stops to refuel, he doesn't want to search all 20 pockets of his riding suit to find the stupid fob.
In the old days (like my Katana) the key was always in the ignition keyhole at the top of the bike. Mine has a little Dolphin keychain from Del Sol so it changes color (to dark blue) in sunlight and when the sun goes down, back to clear.
Anyhow, I got an extra key for my C14 that I need to get "keyed" at the lock smith ( I think it was $14 from dealer). The next trip I take, key fob will stay in my coat, spare key will remain in tank until end of ride and the only thing in glove box will be a credit card.
That should remove any desire to keep fob in glove box (not that i do).
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http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?topic=13676.0 (http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?topic=13676.0)
Last activity: 5 days from the start of THIS thread.
Like I said, 20 forum years....
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I keep my passive key fob on my key chain with all my other keys. I never travel without a backup way to access any of my bikes. I have misplaced a key and chose to use the backup instead of spending too much time searching for the original, to later find it easily when not looking for it.
When I bought the bike I thought the KIPASS was just some gimmick, but then I remembered how many times I come out of a restaurant, put all my gear on and realize the key is still in my pocket so I have to take off my glove and stand up and fish into my pocket to find the key. On the Connie it is just turn the bike on and go.
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Lately I have been leaving the fob in the glovebox on my 2012, despite the sticker. When riding, I kept getting a red light in the upper left and "Transponder missing" or something. I took the transponder out of the glovebox and it went away.
Why did I get this?
Why aren't you supposed to put the transponder in the glovebox?
I was the one who posted this problem a few weeks ago. Have you solved it yet. Mine was the result of the LED Driving light controller causing interference. Could also be HID Headlights. Check your Transponder battery volts. Hope for 3.2v, anything under 3.0v repalce it.
Does your bike start with the Transponder in the Glove Box? If so the transponder is visible when the bike is not powered, something that is powered by the bike is causing it.
My transponder worked fine in the glove box until I installed the LED Lights, so I would assume you have something causing interference.
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I have a radar detector mounted just ahead of the glovebox, maybe that's it. It's stopped doing it now that I don't put the fob in the glove box.
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I put the fob in my pocket and use the stove knob :yikes: to open my gas tank. Funny, it hasn't bent on me or anything. I have no idea why others have problems using the keys as designed.
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Sure, you say that now but wait until you use the key to carve your name into a Sequoia or pry a boulder out of the ground or something and I betcha' you change your mind.
I really don't know how the legend got started but sure enough, there are people who are afraid to remove the stove knob key from the bike. ??? I use that key exclusively everywhere on my bike and have not managed to bend it yet although the teeth are worn now after six years and 90K miles.
Brian
I put the fob in my pocket and use the stove knob :yikes: to open my gas tank. Funny, it hasn't bent on me or anything. I have no idea why others have problems using the keys as designed.
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Sure, you say that now but wait until you use the key to carve your name into a Sequoia or pry a boulder out of the ground or something and I betcha' you change your mind.
I was thinking of using it to pry the tops off of beer bottles. :chugbeer:
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By using a hammer against the key, right?
;D
Brian
I was thinking of using it to pry the tops off of beer bottles. :chugbeer:
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Sure, you say that now but wait until you use the key to carve your name into a Sequoia or pry a boulder out of the ground or something and I betcha' you change your mind.
I really don't know how the legend got started but sure enough, there are people who are afraid to remove the stove knob key from the bike. ??? I use that key exclusively everywhere on my bike and have not managed to bend it yet although the teeth are worn now after six years and 90K miles.
Brian
The stove knob is removable? :o
Who knew?
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I really don't know how the legend got started but sure enough, there are people who are afraid to remove the stove knob key from the bike. ???
Brian
Possibly me...
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I put the fob in my pocket and use the stove knob :yikes: to open my gas tank.
And that is exactly how it is designed to be used.
Funny, it hasn't bent on me or anything. I have no idea why others have problems using the keys as designed.
Because the lock and the mechanism corrodes. Mine is horribly corroded and hard to turn and it isn't very old and I take good care of it. I FINALLY bought a can of graphite spray and sprayed it in the lock and mechanism on the bottom. OMG what a difference! I bought it because I could barely open my front door- it is better than new now!
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Wait, wait.... let me see if I've got this: KiPass is SO BAD that it caused your front door to corrode and you had to lubricate your house? Amazing. Damn that KiPass- Damn it all to hell!
Should I start working on a front door bypass kit? How much would you pay for one? I have an idea already but you will probably think it looks like a regular, conventional axe but I assure you, it is a custom designed, task specific front door bypass kit. Shipping is not going to be included in the price though....
:D
Brian
And that is exactly how it is designed to be used.
Because the lock and the mechanism corrodes. Mine is horribly corroded and hard to turn and it isn't very old and I take good care of it. I FINALLY bought a can of graphite spray and sprayed it in the lock and mechanism on the bottom. OMG what a difference! I bought it because I could barely open my front door- it is better than new now!
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Hmmmm... safe in Peoria :o... Me thinks not
Home > Crime Statistics > Illinois > Peoria
http://www.cityrating.com/crime-statistics/illinois/peoria.html#.UZwVc8okTug (http://www.cityrating.com/crime-statistics/illinois/peoria.html#.UZwVc8okTug)
The city violent crime rate for Peoria in 2010 was higher than the national violent crime rate average by 89.88% and the city property crime rate in Peoria was higher than the national property crime rate average by 53.2%.
In 2010 the city violent crime rate in Peoria was higher than the violent crime rate in Illinois by 76.12% and the city property crime rate in Peoria was higher than the property crime rate in Illinois by 68.11%.
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I live in Washington, a small town 10 miles away. Peoria has high stats and high crime areas, but it's 95% one bad part of town (the southwest side, where Richard Pryor was raised, down by the projects if you must know). The rest of it is pretty decent. And I have been around. I have been in this area for 9 years. Never had a crime done to me, seen a crime or heard about anyone I know suffering from any sort of crime.
I have been acting this way my whole life, I got it from my dad, who always took his keys out of the ignition and dropped them on the floor and walked away with the car unlocked. Bear in mind, I don't do this everywhere.
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Note to self....
There are "free" Concours in the proximity of Peoria.
Honey, hookup the trailer! :-X
Might need gas cause he can't get the knob out of the hole.
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Note to self....
There are "free" Concours in the proximity of Peoria.
Honey, hookup the trailer! :-X
Might need gas cause he can't get the knob out of the hole.
Of course if someone wants your concours they just hop on while you are in the gas station with the bike in first gear, the clutch pulled in the stovepipe pushed down. As soon as you walk close enough they start it and are gone.
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PIP
Crime seems to be concentrated in many cities that skew the over all statistics for an area. I agree that one should not be preoccupied with preventing crime 100% of the time but incorporating "safety measures" to minimize the chance that some derelict will commit a crime, property or otherwise is a reasonable life style modification. In Columbus, Ohio my wife and I went out to celebrate our anniversary, came home house burglarized; went out to dinner another time, came out to drive home..car stolen. And we were not even in a high crime area. Car locked and parked on street in front of restaurant; house locked, inside and outside lights on, dogs in yard. I agree if someone wants something they will take it. Since things seem to happen in 3's I am now waiting to see if I get mugged. Concealed carry anyone?
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Concealed carry anyone?
Sure, but not in Peoria. >:(
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Not sure how CC would have helped him, both crimes occurred out of his presence. Unless you're talking about the 'deterrence in general' effect.
TJPGI: Sounds like preventative measures did you no good. Other than causing additional damage to get into places they were going regardless. Who knows? Burglarized AND a car stolen? That's bad luck right there.
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That has always been a gigantic fear of mine- I would be walking up to my bike, fail to notice the person sitting on it pressing down on the key, and they would do exactly as you say once I was w/in 5 feet or so of my bike! So what I do is to stealthily sneak up to my bike, hiding behind bushes, fuel pumps and any / all other obstacles that will conceal me. Sort of like Wile E. Coyote sneaking up on the Road Runner by swiftly springing from behind rock to behind rock until the Road Runner is w/ in the last leap. If I go to, say, a gas station with large, open areas between the parking lot and the exit of the building, I put up cardboard cutouts of boulders located strategically and then dart between them until I am close enough to my bike and the Road Runner er, potential bike thief to confront him or her directly.
I think this is a highly under reported and under funded problem on a national scale and hereby propose we create a group dedicated to the preservation of empty saddles on our bikes when we are not in attendance. Perhaps the old 'the tack under a piece of paper on the saddle' trick would be a righteous beginning?
Brian
Of course if someone wants your concours they just hop on while you are in the gas station with the bike in first gear, the clutch pulled in the stovepipe pushed down. As soon as you walk close enough they start it and are gone.
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Hey, has anyone noticed that a lot of the time, the 'bad' section of town is on the south side? What's up with that? Do criminals and miscreants have some sort of attraction to the south pole? Sure it is funny and all but really, all the worst sections of the cities that I know of are in the southern area. I am not saying it is some kind of 100% rule but it does seem to be all out of reasonable proportion (the bad sections should only be in the southern portion 25% of the time, right?).
Brian
PIP
Crime seems to be concentrated in many cities that skew the over all statistics for an area.
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lol
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Not sure how CC would have helped him, both crimes occurred out of his presence. Unless you're talking about the 'deterrence in general' effect.
TJPGI: Sounds like preventative measures did you no good. Other than causing additional damage to get into places they were going regardless. Who knows? Burglarized AND a car stolen? That's bad luck right there.
I mentioned concealed carry as a possible deterrent for the possible" third leg of the crime spree" ( hypothesizing a mugging or such if I were to stay in Ohio.. currently trying to make a permanent move to Texas) that I so far have encountered. Never been to Peoria. Columbus Ohio was where all of the crime occurred to me. 8). He!!and I was born and lived in Newark, New Jersey for part of my life and experienced no crime. Of course back then I was a very careful and skeptical young man and avoided perceived risky situations like the plague.
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That has always been a gigantic fear of mine- I would be walking up to my bike, fail to notice the person sitting on it pressing down on the key, and they would do exactly as you say once I was w/in 5 feet or so of my bike! So what I do is to stealthily sneak up to my bike, hiding behind bushes, fuel pumps and any / all other obstacles that will conceal me. Sort of like Wile E. Coyote sneaking up on the Road Runner by swiftly springing from behind rock to behind rock until the Road Runner is w/ in the last leap. If I go to, say, a gas station with large, open areas between the parking lot and the exit of the building, I put up cardboard cutouts of boulders located strategically and then dart between them until I am close enough to my bike and the Road Runner er, potential bike thief to confront him or her directly.
I think this is a highly under reported and under funded problem on a national scale and hereby propose we create a group dedicated to the preservation of empty saddles on our bikes when we are not in attendance. Perhaps the old 'the tack under a piece of paper on the saddle' trick would be a righteous beginning?
Brian
:rotflmao:
Do you have a source for those cardboard cutouts Brian? I may need to stock up.
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Hey, has anyone noticed that a lot of the time, the 'bad' section of town is on the south side? What's up with that? Do criminals and miscreants have some sort of attraction to the south pole? Sure it is funny and all but really, all the worst sections of the cities that I know of are in the southern area. I am not saying it is some kind of 100% rule but it does seem to be all out of reasonable proportion (the bad sections should only be in the southern portion 25% of the time, right?).
Brian
Hey now! I live on the south side of my lil 'town'. >:( ;)
It's warmer on the south side donchaknow?
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Back to the
transporter transponder you guys... Don't make me bring my knights of....(http://www.council-of-elrond.com/forums/images/smilies/knightsofni1.gif)
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My transponder shudders at the thought of the Knights of (http://www.council-of-elrond.com/forums/images/smilies/knightsofni1.gif)
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It should.
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Back to the transporter transponder you guys... Don't make me bring my knights of....(http://www.council-of-elrond.com/forums/images/smilies/knightsofni1.gif)
The Knights who say (http://www.council-of-elrond.com/forums/images/smilies/knightsofni1.gif) are no more.
They are now the Knights who say "Ekke Ekke Ekke Ekke Ptang Z'nourrwringmm,.............Ni!"
Otherwise known as "The Knights who 'Til recently said (http://www.council-of-elrond.com/forums/images/smilies/knightsofni1.gif)"
If your bike ever says "Ni" or "Ekke Ekke Ekke Ekke Ptang Z'nourrwringmm,.............Ni!" then you are in big trouble.
For starters John Cleese may sue you for copyright infringement. ::)
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:rotflmao:
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What are you laughing at? >:( ;)
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The Knights who say (http://www.council-of-elrond.com/forums/images/smilies/knightsofni1.gif) are no more.
They are now the Knights who say "Ekke Ekke Ekke Ekke Ptang Z'nourrwringmm,.............Ni!"
Otherwise known as "The Knights who 'Til recently said (http://www.council-of-elrond.com/forums/images/smilies/knightsofni1.gif)"
If your bike ever says "Ni" or "Ekke Ekke Ekke Ekke Ptang Z'nourrwringmm,.............Ni!" then you are in big trouble.
For starters John Cleese may sue you for copyright infringement. ::)
Yeah, right. I prefer the old ways so my knights and I will still say 'Ni'!
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What are you laughing at? >:( ;)
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