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Mish mash => Open Forum => Topic started by: Toxz Qwaste on May 09, 2013, 12:41:57 PM
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In a nutshell:
Before the change, you could only transport a firearm directly to or from NJ State certified range. You could not stop for gas, food, ****, pick up/drop off your shooting buddy, stop at the gun store for ammo (unless getting repairs, service, etc.), change a flat, etc. If you got caught doing any of these things you would be in violation. Prosecution was a guarantee.
NJ Senate Bill 2721, 215th Legislature, amending N.J.S.2C:39-6, introduced April, 25 2013 changes this.
The bill clarifies the definition of "reasonably necessary deviation when legally transporting firearm or weapon in a motor vehicle". As written in the text: ..."Reasonably necessary deviations shall include, but not be limited to, collecting and discharging passengers; purchasing gasoline, food, medicine, or other supplies; using a restroom; or contending with an emergency situation."
NJ gun laws are very strict compared to most of the country. We lawful owner have to walk on eggshells every time we pick up a gun. Although this change doesn't address many of the flaws in the law, it is a positive step in the right direction.
I don't want this to turn into a political discussion. I'd gladly take up that part of the vitriol discussion in the Arena. ;D >:( Just spreading good news especially for any NJ residents that shoot.
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I knew the laws out east were pretty draconian, but this is good news, why the change for the better, what brought it about?
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I knew the laws out east were pretty draconian, but this is good news, why the change for the better, what brought it about?
We have a combination of a very active lobby and receptive lawmakers. At the moment.
It is quite amazing this happened considering the current hostility towards legal firearms owners.
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I have a police friend in Toronto that I visit and we go shooting and they have even more draconian measures in place there. Hard to believe NJ is LESS restrictive than Toronto. Its a good start, celebrate.
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I know a technician that works out of Toronto. When they had mandatory registration, he (and many like him) registered all their guns. Their Glue guns, soldering guns, nail guns, temerature guns, etc. Pretty much anything with a trigger in front of a handle. And lets not get started on the whole line of commercial grade milwakee "hole shooters". He felt it was worth the filing expense to screw with their system.
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Multiple millions spent and not a lot to show for it. Last I heard, and this was awhile ago that Harper and his team were scrapping the gun registration law.
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Toomey - manchin originally had a clause to allow for CC reciprocity to be nationalized as our driver licenses are. It also had travel clauses similar to the NJ changes posted by the OP. Chuck Shumer lost his mind and complained that "times square would be OK corral" so the provision on national reciprocity was removed. And the whole bill was defeated. I read the original bill, and would have been happy to have seen it pass. Lot's of loosening of restrictions for the good guys. To bad everything has to be all or none. Steve
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Chuckie didn't lose it. He was acting the only way he knows.
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I'm surprised the blue state of NJ I have lived in my entire life seems to be getting more gun friendly. There is even a proposed bill for CC, but I seriously doubt it will ever come to a vote. I am 46, and never wanted to own a firearm until recently. I don't want to throw this thread into the arena either, but our president threatening to take away my rights made me apply for my firearms ID card and a couple pistol permits. While some of my friends have waited weeks, and even months, I received my card and permits in 10 days from the time I turned in my fingerprints, I was shocked. I am the proud new owner of a Beretta 9mm PX4 Storm, full size, and I just picked up my Remington 1911 R1 a few days ago.
Both fortunately, and unfortunately, I will be moving to a new town next week, and I hope my new police chief is as friendly towards issuing permits as my current chief. I am moving to a town of only 1700 residents, as opposed to the 40,000 where I live now, so I am hoping the permit process is just as fast. I want to pick up a S&W bodyguard for my wife, and a Kahr CM40 for myself just in case that CC bill somehow comes to a vote and by some miracle passes.
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Doesn't the 2nd state the right to keep and bear arms will not be infringed?
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Doesn't the 2nd state the right to keep and bear arms will not be infringed?
And the 4th protects against unreasonable search and seizure. How's that working out for us?
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That's because people keep voting for a party rather than a candidate. The parties keep dredging up candidates from their cesspools and say that is the best thing since sliced bread.
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That's because people keep voting for a party rather than a candidate. The parties keep dredging up candidates from their cesspools and say that is the best thing since sliced bread.
No. It's because conservatives have values. We are a divided bit of society, unlike the libs/progressives which are united in keeping the divide strong. Stop blaming conservatives and give the leftys credit for having a strategy that is working, crooked tho it may be. We can divide our vote amongst 3 candidates, or 2 while they consistantly cast for one. Even I can see how that math works out.
1 Candidate + 10 libs = 10 votes . 2 candidates + 10 Conservatives = 5 votes per. If one of the candidates is stronger than the other you may end up with 9 votes, which leaves the lib candidate in office...
The only way we will ever defeat these socialist minded candidates is to unite behind one candidate. We the conservatives outnumber the libs.
Off to the Arena we shall go.
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1 Candidate + 10 libs = 10 votes
At least 20 votes + the dead + illegal aliens, etc.
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Yes, Conservatives have values. Unfortunately the gop are not Conservatives. They keep giving us RINOs like Romney and McCain and then wonder why they lose.
Want to beat the Libs (both D and R)? Vote for a Conservative-not for a party.
No one is blaming Conservatives because they aren't running things. The Commie Libs have the wh and the Senate and the RINO Libs have the House.
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Some days it feels like this: :banghead: