Kawasaki Concours Forum
The C-14, aka Kawasaki Concours-14, the new one :) => The Bike - C14/GTR 1400 => Topic started by: Flienlow on April 07, 2013, 03:20:23 PM
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I am sure this subject has been killed to death, but if anyone cares to humor me........
I just got back from the BMW shop. OMG, the K1600GT is beautiful! OMG it is mother humping expensive! :(
It's a no can do for me. Not even with their ass raping easy pay option can I make $450/month (plus huge balloon payment) sound reasonable for a weekend toy. Yeah sure, if it was my primary cage, and it went to Costco, sure. But not for a toy. -that's my situation.
In the past I have had an 05 FJR, and 2 bmw RT's. My last ride on the RT was an 800 mile day, and I could have gone full Iron Butt. If the RT didn't have such a bore of an engine, I might be looking for another.
Lately I have been looking at the Concours, and FJR. The FJR still has a 5 speed and I don't care what anyone says, I think it needs a 6th. I also find the seat to be harder than Chinese calculus. But damn it! It looks nice, and they put Cruise Control on it!!
I know I can go to murphs kits and bo-jack an audiovox on the Concours. I do worry that if I buy a new one, they will refresh it in the next year or so with Cruise control thus lowering the value of a late model preowned. But if I take the Cruise control out of the equation, how competent is this bike?
I have not been on one, and got jacked around at a dealership, so I left without being able to ride it. can you do an 800 mile day on this bike? and what considerations should I take over the purchase of an FJR (which I admit is not a perfect bike for me, but very good.)
If anyone would care to share, I would appreciate it.
Thanks,
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:popcorn: You should get the Concours 1400.
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Since You have already owned an FJR, You know they are great bikes. I wouldn't let a good deal on either bike get by. Some folks have been griping that the cruise on the new FJR is speed limited at 80 mph. My buds FJR is real nice. I personally am a horsepower junkie, and My 08 Connie with the flies removed and Power Commander 5 fits the bill for Me. You might also take into consideration that the linked brakes on the newer Connies' brings the suck, according to some owners. The 08, and 09 doesn't have that issue, so finding a lightly used first gen C14 might be the way to go.
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I've never ridden the FJR so I won't try to compare but if price is a concern you can probably find a left over 2012 C14 for $13k before taxes and fees right now if you are in the US. I don't think there were any updates to the 2013 model for this year. The FJR being new I doubt dealers are going to deal much on the price.
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If you ask where to paypal the 5 bucks, buy the FJR.
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800 miles in a day? An Earth day? Sounds like too much to me- I have heard of people doing near 100 miles in a single day but I don't know about 8 hunderd all in a row.
Brian
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I have not been on one, and got jacked around at a dealership, so I left without being able to ride it. can you do an 800 mile day on this bike? and what considerations should I take over the purchase of an FJR (which I admit is not a perfect bike for me, but very good.)
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I've never owned a FJR, but have a couple of riding buddies that love theirs.
But I've never been a Yamaha fan. And the Concours sure is nice.
I'd buy one of each.
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Why, that's crazy talk right there! Why clutter up your garage with an FJR or a BMW for that matter?
800 miles in a day? An Earth day? Sounds like too much to me- I have heard of people doing near 100 miles in a single day but I don't know about 8 hunderd all in a row.
Brian
Why, that's crazy talk right there....again. 800 miles in a day? My God, I've only done 750, possibly 789, but NEVER NEVER have I done 800. Why that's right up there with putting a man on the moon for goodness sakes! What next, someone paints their black bike Kawi green! I'm just about ready to faint right now I tell you... :censored:
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CUT him off , time to take nap.
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Before the "redo" of the FJR this year, it was no contest- Concours hands down in most every possible way. Yamaha has something more worthy now, although the bike is mostly unchanged.
But really, about the only things the FJR has over the Concours is cruise control, a little lighter, and a little larger fuel tank (10%). The Concours has a much better warranty, a proper 6 speed transmission, variable valve timing, an analog speedometer (I HATE digial speedometers and tachometers), better MPG (which is perplexing), better performance (especially if you flash the sucker), and essentially the same street price. Plus it looks better (if you ask me).
In the fuzzy category: Electronic throttle might or might not be a good thing. Some could argue the FJR's linked brakes lack the abruptness of the C14's, but others could argue that the C14's shaft drive is superior.
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800 miles in a day? An Earth day? Sounds like too much to me- I have heard of people doing near 100 miles in a single day but I don't know about 8 hunderd all in a row.
Brian
...says the CC50 guy with the amazing fuel reserve mod... ;)
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I just bought a 12 leftover at Sport Cycles of Rockingham for $11998 + $25 for a temp reg to drive it home. You just can't beat that for a bike like this. :) :)
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Don't know about the FJR, but the Connie has about 3,468 different farkles to make it your own bike and the right ergos for you. Mine only took about 40.
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I just bought a 12 leftover at Sport Cycles of Rockingham for $11998 + $25 for a temp reg to drive it home. You just can't beat that for a bike like this. :) :)
A 12 what?
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The new FJR is really nice, allot of video reviews on youtube have it favored as the best overall choice now. One of the biggest gripes on the C14 was indeed the linked brakes system, and the lack of cruise control.
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Don't know about the FJR, but the Connie has about 3,468 different farkles to make it your own bike and the right ergos for you. Mine only took about 40.
Slacker!
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Why, that's crazy talk right there! Why clutter up your garage with an FJR or a BMW for that matter?
Why, that's crazy talk right there....again. 800 miles in a day? My God, I've only done 750, possibly 789, but NEVER NEVER have I done 800. Why that's right up there with putting a man on the moon for goodness sakes! What next, someone paints their black bike Kawi green! I'm just about ready to faint right now I tell you... :censored:
:rotflmao: ;D :cool:
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Either bike is a winner...I bought th Connie.
Regardless of the bike, the ONLY way I'm doing 800 miles in a day is on a 747!!!!
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800 miles in a day? An Earth day? Sounds like too much to me- I have heard of people doing near 100 miles in a single day but I don't know about 8 hunderd all in a row.
Brian
I did a little over 800 miles two weeks ago, went from Carson City, NV to just north of Seattle, WA. Started at around 6:30am, stopped for 1.5 hours in Portland for steak dinner at Saylors, got into Seattle around 10:30pm I think. A hundred miles in a day? That's barhopping on a harley- maybe!
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Just bought a used rear tire from a guy in town that replaced his ZG with a FJR and said the FJR feels top heavy compaired to the ZG , I was going to call him and go for a ride with him to see the difference in power and handling , His old ZG was all stock mine is flashed and ZX exhaust should be interesting, once I get CC I should be set for life.
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The new FJR is really nice, allot of video reviews on youtube have it favored as the best overall choice now. One of the biggest gripes on the C14 was indeed the linked brakes system, and the lack of cruise control.
Cruise can be added. 6th gear cannot :)
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Either bike is a winner...I bought th Connie.
Regardless of the bike, the ONLY way I'm doing 800 miles in a day is on a 747!!!!
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The guy I ride with every weekend for the past eight years had a 2003 FJR when I met him. I had an ST1300 then, but quickly switched to a 2006 FJR. We both put over 40,000 miles on the FJR's. In 2010 we picked up new 2010 Concours together. I put 37,000 miles on mine, he a little less because he had more bikes. Six months ago we decided it was time for new bikes. I bought a BMW 1600 GT first, and he rode it before making his decision. He and I always loved our FJRs and he decided to go that route. He got his new 2013 FJR about two months ago.
The bottom line is that both of us feel like we made the right decision, but the truth is that we have enjoyed all of the bikes. None of them is a bad bike, you just have to decide which one fits your style and features the most. For a year I had both the Concours and FJR. I can honestly say that there were days I wished I still had an FJR, but the Concours was the better at certain things. But neither of them is bad at anything, to me the differences were very subtle.
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Cruise can be added. 6th gear cannot :)
Many FJR owners will disagree with ya on that, and there is still not a "consensus" that the C14 has a true overdrive......many times it will not get used. And as far as adding cruise goes, I want factory installed. ;)
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Many FJR owners will disagree with ya on that,
They found an alternate transmission??
and there is still not a "consensus" that the C14 has a true overdrive......
Whether there is or not, 6 gears are still there... giving more options to the driver.
many times it will not get used.
I almost always use 6th when cruising at high speed. I am going to guess most people do- it is the most efficient for mileage and also smoothest ride.
And as far as adding cruise goes, I want factory installed. ;)
Well, wouldn't we all (although limited to 80 is strange... wouldn't bother me, though).
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Most FJR owners do not bitch and moan about "just a 5 speed", neither do Goldwing or ST owners. Road tests have the C14 needing to be shifted more frequently than the competition does on the same roads, of course pulling the flies and or doing other mods seems to wake the C14 up in the area of torque.
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They found an alternate transmission??
Maybe they think neutral is a gear.
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My stock '09 easily pulls sixth gear through many Texas hill country and Colorado mountain roads. Don't think I'd give it up for a five speed anything.
Throttle by wire could be nice, not having to hold four TB's return springs open.
Yamaha luggage looks a bit smallish, but the adjustable seat height must be nice.
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I did a little over 800 miles two weeks ago, went from Carson City, NV to just north of Seattle, WA. Started at around 6:30am, stopped for 1.5 hours in Portland for steak dinner at Saylors, got into Seattle around 10:30pm I think. A hundred miles in a day? That's barhopping on a harley- maybe!
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Well, if you have actually done it then I guess it is possible. Still though, 800 miles in just one day is impressive- my hat is off to you sir!
Brian
I did a little over 800 miles two weeks ago, went from Carson City, NV to just north of Seattle, WA. Started at around 6:30am, stopped for 1.5 hours in Portland for steak dinner at Saylors, got into Seattle around 10:30pm I think. A hundred miles in a day? That's barhopping on a harley- maybe!
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The guy I ride with every weekend for the past eight years had a 2003 FJR when I met him. I had an ST1300 then, but quickly switched to a 2006 FJR. We both put over 40,000 miles on the FJR's. In 2010 we picked up new 2010 Concours together. I put 37,000 miles on mine, he a little less because he had more bikes. Six months ago we decided it was time for new bikes. I bought a BMW 1600 GT first, and he rode it before making his decision. He and I always loved our FJRs and he decided to go that route. He got his new 2013 FJR about two months ago.
The bottom line is that both of us feel like we made the right decision, but the truth is that we have enjoyed all of the bikes. None of them is a bad bike, you just have to decide which one fits your style and features the most. For a year I had both the Concours and FJR. I can honestly say that there were days I wished I still had an FJR, but the Concours was the better at certain things. But neither of them is bad at anything, to me the differences were very subtle.
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I prefer my bike for most situations, but to just go from A to B in übercomfort I take a K1600, specially when I know that there won't be any actual "sheer driving pleasure" involved, aka curves.
It's funny how feather-light the C14 feels when parking the K16 and driving off with the Kawasaki.
Bottom line: get what suits you!
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Any of those bikes will give you years of smiles. Pick which moves you most and run with it.
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As far as the LD riding goes, I know a guy that 11k miles in 11 days. He said some folks went over 14k miles in the same period.
Crazy!
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I've done Austin TX to Monument CO in one day. Over 900 miles on my 2010 C14. That kind of day is rare for me but 500 mile days are pretty common on summer trips. For me to be comfy doing long days I had to have taller bars, highway pegs and a better seat. I do have a Rostra CC but a friction type throttle lock can do the trick as well.
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What seat did you go with?
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I think I have heard of that- isn't it named the Iren Butte or something similar? Impressive riding to be sure but remember, even the toughest folks in that rally sleep a little the very first day, and then they sleep some more on second and all the other days of the ride as well. Makes me wonder how far they could really go in a day, especially if they had part of an elk carcass egging them on.... (just because the voices are not real does not mean that they do not have some GREAT ideas).
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Brian
As far as the LD riding goes, I know a guy that 11k miles in 11 days. He said some folks went over 14k miles in the same period.
Crazy!
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OP, I just test rode the new FJR. It is a very nice bike, but I would not sell my C14 to buy one.
On the FJR's upside, I thought it exhibited a higher level of fit and finish, had nicer brakes, larger fuel tank, and no kipass. ;D
On the downside of the FJR, the cruise control working only to 80 mph, less wind protection than my C14, and my preference for the engine and transmission in my C14 all outweigh the areas where I preferred the FJR.
My C14 handles better to, but to be fair I went to PR3's with the 190/55 rear, which makes the steering noticeably lighter.
Still, if cost is the bottom line, the FJR or C14 can't be beat IMO.
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OP, I just test rode the new FJR. It is a very nice bike, but I would not sell my C14 to buy one.
On the FJR's upside, I thought it exhibited a higher level of fit and finish, had nicer brakes, larger fuel tank, and no kipass. ;D
On the downside of the FJR, the cruise control working only to 80 mph, less wind protection than my C14, and my preference for the engine and transmission in my C14 all outweigh the areas where I preferred the FJR.
My C14 handles better to, but to be fair I went to PR3's with the 190/55 rear, which makes the steering noticeably lighter.
Still, if cost is the bottom line, the FJR or C14 can't be beat IMO.
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The FJR (2013) seemed stiff as a British Butler to me. It's by no means bad, but there was that the "lash" as I call it from the shaft drive. My RT's both looked like supertankers, but were deceivingly nimble, and I never felt any sort of lash.
The Concours seems more RTish to me as far as comfort goes, but leaves we wondering about the long day comfort, Kipass, brakes,and fuel range. I know I could not have rode my FJR all day. as I put 480 on it, and that about killed me.
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The FJR (2013) seemed stiff as a British Butler to me. It's by no means bad, but there was that the "lash" as I call it from the shaft drive. My RT's both looked like supertankers, but were deceivingly nimble, and I never felt any sort of lash.
The Concours seems more RTish to me as far as comfort goes, but leaves we wondering about the long day comfort, Kipass, brakes,and fuel range. I know I could not have rode my FJR all day. as I put 480 on it, and that about killed me.
I have owned RT's also, so I can appreciate your concern for long distance comfort with the C14.
I have a heated Baldwin seat, Aeroflow extra large windshield, Project D hand wings, Gen Mar risers with Phil wedges. I think my C14 is really comfortable now, and have done some long days in the saddle without complaint. With the aftermarket support being what it is for the C14, I think anyone can make the C14 work to meet their expectations. As far as wind protection, I have mine dialed in pretty well, or about as good as it can get. It's not as good as the RT in wind protection, but it is very comperable to my K13GT with Aeroflow if that helps.
As for fuel range...not much you can do there. My C14 is done around 200 miles. It's a manageable inconvenience for me.
The linked brakes on the C14 take some getting used to. Some here are less bothered by them than others. Hard to say where you would fall into that scenario. The issue mainly is that when applying rear brake there is a point at which the system dials in some abruptness of front brake, which adds some front end dive. Now, coming from a BMW, front end dive is something you will have to adjust to, as I have. Frankly, I prefer the duo/telelever front ends for the lack of dive, and great stability, but here again, I have adapted.
Kipass is not my favorite concept, but it has not been a problem so far. Generally, I think you can hedge your bets by carrying a couple spare fob batteries on the bike just in case a fob battery goes south while you are on the road. A little diligence about changing the batteries every year probably helps too.
Like I said, I thought the FJR was nice, but I think the C14 with an electronic cruise (that works past 80) is the better choice. I would not worry too much about a new and improved C14 spoiling resale, etc.
Hope this helps.
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The FJR (2013) seemed stiff as a British Butler to me. It's by no means bad, but there was that the "lash" as I call it from the shaft drive. My RT's both looked like supertankers, but were deceivingly nimble, and I never felt any sort of lash.
The Concours seems more RTish to me as far as comfort goes, but leaves we wondering about the long day comfort, Kipass, brakes,and fuel range. I know I could not have rode my FJR all day. as I put 480 on it, and that about killed me.
Just goes to show how different people fit different bikes. My experience with the FJR and Concours are exactly the opposite as yours. I put three long trips on both bikes. Long meaning 3500-4000 miles in a week. For me, the FJR was a lot more comfortable.
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Well, if you have actually done it then I guess it is possible. Still though, 800 miles in just one day is impressive- my hat is off to you sir!
Brian
The weather was good on that ride. I have had shorter rides that were much more exhausting, like riding from Denver, CO to Wendover, NV, I think it was 670miles, but it was windy, rainy and cold most of the way, real miserable. Then there was the time I took my Katana 1100 from Eureka, CA down through the bay area in traffic, then took highway 1 (the one that goes along the CA coast) down to Pismo Beach, crap, that must have taken about 16 hours and I was numb when I finished it.
I have a regular Sargent seat, Calsci 2" taller shield, blutooth helmet, mount for my iphone, and a large trunk.
When I finish a ride, my head isn't ringing from road noise as the bike is quiet, and my body isn't achy from vibes. However, my hands do get tired and I'll admit, I like the linked brakes- I put them on the more aggressive mode and rely more on my right foot to slow the bike than my tired right hand.
It is pretty cool to finish the day far the phu++ away from home. Two weeks ago, I started at home and toward the end of the day, drove past the Seattle Needle.
Last fall I did a massive trip with the highlight being the Great American Beer Festival.
These bikes are real fun to go real far. Having C14 and not doing long rides is as wrong as refusing to let a black lab play fetch!
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I haven't read all the posts. This may help someone.
2013 Sport-Touring Shootout 1.0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnkpM-OsyZg#ws)
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I think I have heard of that- isn't it named the Iren Butte or something similar? Impressive riding to be sure but remember, even the toughest folks in that rally sleep a little the very first day, and then they sleep some more on second and all the other days of the ride as well. Makes me wonder how far they could really go in a day, especially if they had part of an elk carcass egging them on.... (just because the voices are not real does not mean that they do not have some GREAT ideas).
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Brian
What were they saying?
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With the aftermarket support being what it is for the C14, I think anyone can make the C14 work to meet their expectations.
I don't know how other bikes are with aftermarket, but the C14 is impressive... much more so than my last bike (ZRX). If it is a lot more than other models out there, it has to be a big plus.
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I'll just keep buying Kawasakis. I'm on my 3rd Concours 14. When or if I ever get a bad one, I'll just keep buying these. The price, warranty, maintenance costs, comfort, and it's feel for the road would be pretty hard to beat for $12,500. I haven't seen any other comparable bikes for the money.
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I haven't read all the posts. This may help someone.
2013 Sport-Touring Shootout 1.0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnkpM-OsyZg#ws)
One of the vids on youtube I was referring to.
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If it wasn't for the integrated brakes I would have traded for an upgraded C14. Mine is a low mileage 08 ABS that's paid for.
Too bad Kawi couldn't get the brakes right on the new models. :'(
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I have owned RT's also, so I can appreciate your concern for long distance comfort with the C14.
I have a heated Baldwin seat, Aeroflow extra large windshield, Project D hand wings, Gen Mar risers with Phil wedges. I think my C14 is really comfortable now, and have done some long days in the saddle without complaint. With the aftermarket support being what it is for the C14, I think anyone can make the C14 work to meet their expectations. As far as wind protection, I have mine dialed in pretty well, or about as good as it can get. It's not as good as the RT in wind protection, but it is very comperable to my K13GT with Aeroflow if that helps.
As for fuel range...not much you can do there. My C14 is done around 200 miles. It's a manageable inconvenience for me.
The linked brakes on the C14 take some getting used to. Some here are less bothered by them than others. Hard to say where you would fall into that scenario. The issue mainly is that when applying rear brake there is a point at which the system dials in some abruptness of front brake, which adds some front end dive. Now, coming from a BMW, front end dive is something you will have to adjust to, as I have. Frankly, I prefer the duo/telelever front ends for the lack of dive, and great stability, but here again, I have adapted.
Kipass is not my favorite concept, but it has not been a problem so far. Generally, I think you can hedge your bets by carrying a couple spare fob batteries on the bike just in case a fob battery goes south while you are on the road. A little diligence about changing the batteries every year probably helps too.
Like I said, I thought the FJR was nice, but I think the C14 with an electronic cruise (that works past 80) is the better choice. I would not worry too much about a new and improved C14 spoiling resale, etc.
Hope this helps.
I looked up the mods you did, and I would agree they would be a must for me.
In the video posted by shoe, the are not exactly raving about the Concours. I have been searching for a while and it seems that I am down to 2 concours choices. a local 2009 that is mint and well farkeled with exhaust and power commander for $9500 or a new 12' for around $13500. Do I want the older for the non linked brakes (and cheaper) or the newer more expensive for ktrc ect?
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Kipass is not my favorite concept, but it has not been a problem so far. Generally, I think you can hedge your bets by carrying a couple spare fob batteries on the bike just in case a fob battery goes south while you are on the road. A little diligence about changing the batteries every year probably helps too.
It was noted way, way back in the day, that the fob still works even with a dead battery. It has a passive RFID as well.
So in the event of a fob battery failure, you pull out the hideaway key in the fob, and then use that exposed rectangular cavity as an alignment reference to a matching rectangle located under the main key mechanism.
IIRC, you'll see a transponder error message on the dash screen, but you'll still be able to start and ride the bike
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Having worked on both and ridden both. I'd go with the Kawasaki.
Given your last post about which, new or used....I always go new and know exactly how every mile was ridden.
I wouldn't overlook the Ninja 1000 either. Very comfortable and with the bags (albeit a bit small) more than capable as a sport tourer. PLus you can find them under 10k
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Having worked on both and ridden both. I'd go with the Kawasaki.
Given your last post about which, new or used....I always go new and know exactly how every mile was ridden.
I wouldn't overlook the Ninja 1000 either. Very comfortable and with the bags (albeit a bit small) more than capable as a sport tourer. PLus you can find them under 10k
Those are very sweet.
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I cannot remember them all of course but one that stands out was to go to this particular guy's house, poke holes in the fuel tank on my bike and strap a red plastic gasoline jug to the back seat as an auxiliary tank. Worked out OK though- I got a fuel spreader out of the deal (the tank moved fuel from the gas station to evenly coat the road for the next few miles) and a cool animal part. I kept the organic part, plugged the really big leaks and rode off into the sunset.... and the hospital. Now I know better than to listen to those voices; Mr. Elkhoof on the other hand, won't shut up and some of HIS ideas seem pretty reasonable.
Brian
What were they saying?
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I looked up the mods you did, and I would agree they would be a must for me.
In the video posted by shoe, the are not exactly raving about the Concours. I have been searching for a while and it seems that I am down to 2 concours choices. a local 2009 that is mint and well farkeled with exhaust and power commander for $9500 or a new 12' for around $13500. Do I want the older for the non linked brakes (and cheaper) or the newer more expensive for ktrc ect?
I might lean toward the farkled 09 if it was well cared for. This way you will not have to eat much depreciation if you decide it isn't't for you.
Not to muddy the water, but what about a used K13gt? Cruise control, esa, etc.
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Why not buy a used k1600gt? Has to be considerably cheaper than new off the showroom floor.
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Judging by the K1600GTs I'm seeing being sold on the k1600forum.com site, you can get a lightly used GT for about 19-20k.
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A friend from Facebook (currently running a sweet looking 2008K1200GT) sent me this yesterday.
http://bmwmcmag.com/2013/03/consumer-reports-finds-bmws-less-reliable-than-japanese-motorcycles/ (http://bmwmcmag.com/2013/03/consumer-reports-finds-bmws-less-reliable-than-japanese-motorcycles/)
I thought it was very interesting. It seems that even though the Beemer/Harley guys have more bike trouble, they will buy them again. I'm sure it is a Euro/American ego thing. And they are rich.
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....but what about a used K13gt? Cruise control, esa, etc.
I have looked high and low. The are a ton of money AND have 50,000 miles on them :(
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Why not buy a used k1600gt? Has to be considerably cheaper than new off the showroom floor.
Why buy a "bring my wallet" at all?
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Not to muddy the water, but what about a used K13gt? Cruise control, esa, etc.
We need to have a FUNDRAISER ANY IDEAS so eng943 can buy his dream bike and go AWAY.
BMW BMW BMW RA
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We need to have a FUNDRAISER ANY IDEAS so eng943 can buy his dream bike and go AWAY.
BMW BMW BMW RA
I REALLY wish that I hadn't clicked that pic and enlarged it. :o
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We need to have a FUNDRAISER ANY IDEAS so eng943 can buy his dream bike and go AWAY.
BMW BMW BMW RA
I am fascinated by your wayward proclivity to get so butt hurt by three little letters.
Go back and read the OP's opening post where he talks about liking his previous RT's with the exception to finding the twin to be boring. While your at it, you might read my replies telling him my experience riding the new FJR, and how I personally felt the C14 is the better of the two. Suggesting a look at a used K13 which is in the price range of a new C14, and comes with some of the features he seemed to want is no stretch or propaganda.
I also gave him my 2 cents on him considering a farkled 09 C14 and how the modifications I have made to my C14 have improved it's long distance ability.
I think the better suggestion would be to conduct an intervention to help YOU find the IGNORE button. ;)
JA
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On my way to Alaska from San Diego, I rode from Banff, Alberta Canada to Dawson Creek BC. Though the distance was slightly over 500 miles on secondary roads (not freeway, some sections under construction), I did it in 9 hours ride time. It was definitely tiring but not to the point of exhaustion. Now I supposed if it was the freeway, lets say I-5, from San Diego to central Oregon, 800 miles will be easily attainable. Since I raised the handlebar 3/4" (Murphs), and had gel inserts on the stock seat, 9-10 hour rides were not a problem at all.
Hope this helped.
SonnC
09 Concours14
01 Triumph Sprint RS
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On my way to Alaska from San Diego, I rode from Banff, Alberta Canada to Dawson Creek BC. Though the distance was slightly over 500 miles on secondary roads (not freeway, some sections under construction), I did it in 9 hours ride time. It was definitely tiring but not to the point of exhaustion. Now I supposed if it was the freeway, lets say I-5, from San Diego to central Oregon, 800 miles will be easily attainable. Since I raised the handlebar 3/4" (Murphs), and had gel inserts on the stock seat, 9-10 hour rides were not a problem at all.
Hope this helped.
SonnC
09 Concours14
01 Triumph Sprint RS
Thank you, that helps alot. I have already purchased a 2010 and rode it home 230mile on the first night. For me a new seat, peg lowering kit, risers,wedges,and the other little ofset things along with cruise control are all a must. I have a saddleman saddle coming and I am really hoping this will help me get the bike set up. my goal is to turn this into a reasonably priced K16000ish bike for touing. I just got my peg lowering kit installed from an inmate, and think the difference they made is worth fourt times the price I paid. I am hoping the seat will do the same becuase the current seat is not good for me at all.
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Thank you, that helps alot. I have already purchased a 2010 and rode it home 230mile on the first night. For me a new seat, peg lowering kit, risers,wedges,and the other little ofset things along with cruise control are all a must. I have a saddleman saddle coming and I am really hoping this will help me get the bike set up. my goal is to turn this into a reasonably priced K16000ish bike for touing. I just got my peg lowering kit installed from an inmate, and think the difference they made is worth fourt times the price I paid. I am hoping the seat will do the same becuase the current seat is not good for me at all.
I sometimes do 1100 miles days, and 700 mile days 2-up, with stock seat and pegs. No risers. Throttlemeister throttle lock I installed, but i mainly enjoy that for the massive bar end weights.
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