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The C-14, aka Kawasaki Concours-14, the new one :) => Accessories and modifications - C14/GTR 1400 => Topic started by: Jojje on May 11, 2011, 02:52:18 PM
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::) I would wish for:
Electronic cruise control
Adjustable display brightness (especially full beam indicator)
Electronical adjustable front/rear suspension
Three different windscreen options (sizes)
Freeflow exhaust (optional)
Rad guard
Rear hugger
Front fender extender
55-60 l. standard top box
GPS/Bluetooth/MP3-player
Fitted tankbag
One? extra layer of clear coat on paint
smoother gear shifter
User manual: Overlook the oil/sparkplug change intervals...
Electronical adjustable front/rear suspension
Adjustable seat height
Heated seat rider/passenger
Adjustable foot pegs rider/passager...
Compatible dynojet power vision (optional)
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Don't want much do we?
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With all that included the price would go up substantially and they would lose potential buyers. It's always a balancing act on what to add vs cost and then price to the consumer. I'm not willing to pay the extra price for all that stuff.
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All that would put it way out of most peoples price range.
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The only signifcant thing on my list is a factory electronic cruise control, which shouldn't add THAT much to the cost. I suspect it would be popular enough as an option it's probably just cheaper to integrate it in to the base design.
Oh, and some side cases that could be left in an unlocked state.
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Factory cruise! You could remove other stuff to reduce weight. But the cruise is a feature that should come on a tour bike. And the movable windshield! A lot of the other stuff is really unnecessary!
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Color choices.
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You can paint it whatever color you like....
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You can paint it whatever color you like....
Something other than black?? ???
Wouldn't that make it slower?? ;)
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+ (what ever we're up to) Cruise control and better colors
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Something other than black?? ???
Wouldn't that make it slower?? ;)
Kawi green would make it faster!
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Factory cruise control
A rear storage box with a comfortable backrest for my passengers
Factory stereo/ XM receivers with jacks for headphones, bluetooth connections
Setup or prewired GPS
Hey Kawasaki, build it like you would take it on a two week long trip. Think of how we use the bike and build it accordingly!
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Sounds allot like the new BMW.....and I'm sure all that on a C14 would cost about as much too......just sayin. ;) Buncha grumpy ole unsatisfied icecream is too cold and hot chocolate is too hot arsehats!
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It's a great bike for the price....But the factory seat is unacceptable, I mean how hard would it be for Kawi to design the seat a little flater so your not sliding foreward on to your...Well you know, it's kinda uncomfortable when something round is being squished flat :o, otherwise I love the bike and don't have many other complaints. I think a seat mod is in my future.
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I would like a three position Map... Sport, Cruise and Rain mode. Make the Sport full flys out/balls out ...I don't care how...... just do it!!!! Hows that...too demanding?
Hey it's all clean in here ... lets pig up the place... what about Kirby and KiPass??? I was told Kipass is what killed Kirby, the radio waves fried his brain and dried him up... so don't put the Fob next to your head...it goes best in the hot tub or party drink glass...
vivo
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Nothing because I JUST BOUGHT a 2011! Don't **** me off with something I can't have!
But if I had a list:
1) Cruise control <----------------
2) LOWER stock seat height- then make the damn seats taller if need be so people have options
3) Turn signals in the mirrors
4) All LED signals
5) HID headlights
6) Integrated rear helmet lock, keyed to master key
7) More options for combining/customizing multifunction display
8 ) Bike alarm... possibly with pager in FOB
9) More/larger brake/tail/running lights
10) English user's manual??? ;)
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You shoulda bought a Beemer...
With all this stuff the Connie would cost as much as one...
::) I would wish for:
Electronic cruise control
Adjustable display brightness (especially full beam indicator)
Electronical adjustable front/rear suspension
Three different windscreen options (sizes)
Freeflow exhaust (optional)
Rad guard
Rear hugger
Front fender extender
55-60 l. standard top box
GPS/Bluetooth/MP3-player
Fitted tankbag
One? extra layer of clear coat on paint
smoother gear shifter
User manual: Overlook the oil/sparkplug change intervals...
Electronical adjustable front/rear suspension
Adjustable seat height
Heated seat rider/passenger
Adjustable foot pegs rider/passager...
Compatible dynojet power vision (optional)
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It's a great bike for the price....But the factory seat is unacceptable, I mean how hard would it be for Kawi to design the seat a little flater so your not sliding foreward on to your...Well you know, it's kinda uncomfortable when something round is being squished flat :o, otherwise I love the bike and don't have many other complaints. I think a seat mod is in my future.
...A BIG 10-4...!! :D ;D 8) :thumbs: :thumbs: :goodpost:
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Guess I'm kinda old school. I like the lower base price and adding the farkles. Nothing wrong with the turn key approach but I get satisfaction from tweaking it just for me. :D I still don't understand why most factory seats are either built for drag racing or to give us all higher voices - The factory low gel seat is flat and works for me. That proves factories CAN build a flat non sloping seat. 8)
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Guess I'm kinda old school. I like the lower base price and adding the farkles. Nothing wrong with the turn key approach but I get satisfaction from tweaking it just for me. :D
Skip
+1...
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Built in tip over protection
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Built in tip over protection
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Electronic Cruise would just about take care of it without adding too much to the base price or removing our ability to customize by choosing our own farkles.
-SparX
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Add nothing. Subtract 100 lbs (45 Kg).
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Like the "Top Block Racing" side sliders engine and frame gaurds! (http://i1200.photobucket.com/albums/bb336/jaywilcox/thumbsup.gif)
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Exactly! The ST1300 has something like this built in. If Kawi built it in it wouldn't cost so much.
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If they would package cruise control and the electronic adjustable suspension for the same price BMW gets for the same options I'd order a new one today.
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You can paint it whatever color you like....
Have you priced this out?
WOW!
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Like the "Top Block Racing" side sliders engine and frame guards!
+1
These and Electronic cruise...
Or at least offer either aftermarket at a reasonable price!
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DREAM ON
If Wishes Were (horses) C14s .....
Tool-less system to remove plastic. (or FOB sized device for key ring)
You should be able to inspect / check all fluids (Coolant - battery) without 10 minutes of pulling plastic off the bike.
Fork oil drain port that does not require the forks to be pulled off the bike.
Modifications to bike layout to allow valve adjust, vacuum idle setting and spark plug maintenance / replacement in under 45 minutes each.
Stronger windscreen mounting for CB Ultra Dome windscreen (less shaking)
Adjustable rider and passenger foot peg height / seat height / handle bars.
(OR NO CHANGES IF FREE SERVICE AT THE DEALER FOR 3 YEARS 50,000 miles) with option to extend to 6 years with 100k
DREAM OFF
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Guess I'm kinda old school. I like the lower base price and adding the farkles. Nothing wrong with the turn key approach but I get satisfaction from tweaking it just for me.
+1
...and offer the same accesories they offer in Europe.
...and PR3s stock...
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Insulated saddlebag for beer (must have a drain tap to let out the melted ice). ;D
Have a friend with a KTM Adventure and that's EXACTLY what it has. Butt ugly, but they hold a lot of cool ones.
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Electronic Cruise Control for sure!
Flatter Seat, too.
Optional matching trunk
If you get all of the other things on the list you'll have a Gold Wing. ::)
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Non ABS as an option, that European Moondust Brown, and CC.
Easy 'nuff!
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I agree 100% with keeping the base price low and allowing people to add farkles as needed to suit their needs. Not all of us make are loaded or want a monthly payment. ;D
If it were my choice, I would offer the following as add-on accessories:
- electronic cruise control (plug and play into the factory harness, no splicing, cutting or running straight to the battery B.S.)
- dual accessory pigtail harness for GPS and iPod, heated clothing, whatever (plug and play like above)
The only other thing I would do is shave off some weight. Everything else can be left to the aftermarket as far as I'm concerned.
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how about something simple everyone here has overlooked, my biggest complaint is turn signals that dont reset . i mean WTF? are they kidding?
i also do not know anyone who hasnt added risers to his bike, hey kawi how about designing the bike for american sport touring riders who happen to average more than 5 4 in height.
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Cruise control
no linked brakes
The more stuff we get the more the bike costs and weighs
we have a good price point for a bike that IMHO leads the sport touring bunch, so careful what you ask for.
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Self cancelling signals, cruise control, communications-bluetooth-radio. Thats it.
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how about something simple everyone here has overlooked, my biggest complaint is turn signals that dont reset . i mean WTF? are they kidding?
i also do not know anyone who hasnt added risers to his bike, hey kawi how about designing the bike for american sport touring riders who happen to average more than 5 4 in height.
You can add two to the list who don't have them - myself and my friend. I already have a Goldwing, I don't need or want another "sit up and beg" motorcycle. It's easier to start low and add risers than to start high and.......
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Stronger windscreen mounting for CB Ultra Dome windscreen (less shaking)
+1 :thumbs: I love the adjustable windscreen but it needs to be a bit beefier.
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Guess I'm kinda old school. I like the lower base price and adding the farkles. Nothing wrong with the turn key approach but I get satisfaction from tweaking it just for me. :D I still don't understand why most factory seats are either built for drag racing or to give us all higher voices
I would somewhat agree with you- up to the point where something isn't feasible to add or change. Height is a good example. If they STARTED with a lower seat placement, then people could safely and easily swap the even taller stock seat for something considerably lower. But when the design only leaves an inch to play with before you hit steel, those are not things that farkels easily deal with (as my recent experience has shown).
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i also do not know anyone who hasnt added risers to his bike, hey kawi how about designing the bike for american sport touring riders who happen to average more than 5 4 in height.
??? Excuse me, but I am 5'7" and the Concours 32" seat height was UNMANAGEABLE without both swapping to the lowest seat possible AND lowering the bike, AND getting the soles of my boots extended. Even now, if I plant a foot on something slippery or shifty, I doubt I could recover and backing up the bike can be considerably difficult. Implying that anyone over 5'4" needs to RAISE the bike is just... INSANE. If anything, the stock seat support assembly needs to be LOWERED so people have more options for seat height. Getting a taller seat is EASY. Going much lower than stock is not.
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2012-2014 models, what would you wish for?
I would wish for even half as many women on those bikes as I'd had on my '10 (http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j180/stevewfl/avatars/badteeth.gif)
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Someone already mentioned a beefier windscreen assembly to reduce the flopping (not sure of a better word, but there probably is one). I'd suggest a stronger 'TAB' at the very bottom of the mechanism. Remove the black piece of cowling to see it (two screws and two pop rivets).
I broke the tab when I became an honorary member of the elite C.D.A. club, dropping the bike into my truck (a whole different story for the C.D.A. thread). The metal 'Y' bracket cannot be purchased separately, which is too bad because it's only 4 bolts and you're done. And the entire mechanism is $640.00 retail...go to Dillon Brothers, I got mine for $482.00. But looking into this, I understand these tabs can fail from having larger windshields and *ahem* higher speeds. I recently put on the Cee Baileys Ultra Tour Domer- great windshield, but I'm hesitant to extend it all the way up at highway speeds.
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Optional packages like BMW. If folks want that stuff it should be available from the factory or dealer. Say what you want about Harley or BMW but you have to admit they do a magnificent job of marketing and selling the options to allow one to personalize the bike (at a cost of course). Yamaha created a Division (Star) based on the concept of "We Give it Attitude, You Make It Personal". I personaly would not pay the price required for a bike to be equipped with that complete list but would like the option to pick and choose specific items according to my needs (and budget).
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Maxtog says.
" Excuse me, but I am 5'7" and the Concours 32" seat height was UNMANAGEABLE without both swapping to the lowest seat possible AND lowering the bike, AND getting the soles of my boots extended. Even now, if I plant a foot on something slippery or shifty, I doubt I could recover and backing up the bike can be considerably difficult. Implying that anyone over 5'4" needs to RAISE the bike is just... INSANE. If anything, the stock seat support assembly needs to be LOWERED so people have more options for seat height. Getting a taller seat is EASY. Going much lower than stock is not."
Ah i see a reading comprehension problem, i was referring to the risers not seat height, the seat is plenty high enough.
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Self cancelling signals, cruise control...........
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Ah i see a reading comprehension problem, i was referring to the risers not seat height, the seat is plenty high enough.
OK, my bad. A little sensitive on that topic.
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+1
...and offer the same accesories they offer in Europe.
...and PR3s stock...
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The only signifcant thing on my list is a factory electronic cruise control, which shouldn't add THAT much to the cost. I suspect it would be popular enough as an option it's probably just cheaper to integrate it in to the base design.
i agree 110% 8)
i like to make a bike my own.
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Add self-cancelling turn signals and make KiPiss optional.
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A descent matching top box
Heating options for the passenger
Cruse Control
Twin Exhaust option
Indicators in the mirrors
Leave it as a base spec bike with option packages to suit individuals to choose as they see fit.
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Remember that having lots of options adds cost too - the cost of supporting the various options has to be figured in to the base price of the bike. Anything that can be readily "farkeled" is best left off as an option. That that can't should be incorporated in to the base design.
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Cruse Control
Unlinked Brake (add a mode #3 to current configuration)
Make the normal service items easier to get to.
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Make it lighter....
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All comments and recommendations herein are great and all needed....however NO ONE has mentioned having the ZX-14 engine come as a standard motor in this bike...if it had a free flowing dual exhaust system that would be a great enhancement too......
This is probably the finest motorcycle out there in a Sport Tourer.....each year Kawasaki includes a few upgrades....and hopefully as time moves forward they will continue to add some newer upgrades....afterall they have to sell more new bikes...and if they don't keep current with the needs of customers....they will lose out their marketshare in the industry.
Ninja
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All comments and recommendations herein are great and all needed....however NO ONE has mentioned having the ZX-14 engine come as a standard motor in this bike...if it had a free flowing dual exhaust system that would be a great enhancement too......
This is probably the finest motorcycle out there in a Sport Tourer.....each year Kawasaki includes a few upgrades....and hopefully as time moves forward they will continue to add some newer upgrades....afterall they have to sell more new bikes...and if they don't keep current with the needs of customers....they will lose out their marketshare in the industry.
Ninja
I had a ZX14, horrendous gas mileage that would not support the sport touring model as distance between gas stops too close. Also power band seemed to be adjust to much higher RPMs, it ran like a raped ape but liked to be tach'd up.
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That reminds me (thanks Steve) - In addition to many of the good suggestions above,
1. More fuel capacity : The C10 had a 7.5 gallon tank on a 1000cc bike. That made it a little less worrisome when touring the western states, where fuel stops have to be planned ahead of time. Or find another way to increase the range to 300+ miles on a tank, when taking it easy on the throttle (I know, who can do that!).
2. 87 Octane fuel compatibility : Just touring Eastern Oregon, there are routes where you will not find 91 Octane fuel. The HD riders carry Octane Booster with them when they ride over there. I refuse to do that.
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Electronic cruise control and just add another storage case on the right side of the bike like there is on the left side. Don't understand why they wouldn't just put one on each side to begin with. Also, one more auxillary power plug on the left side. All relatively easy and inexpensive tweeks.
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Has anyone mentioned a digital speedo? I get tired of looking at the MPG or tire pressure and would love the option to show a digital speedo on the main display (in addition to the analog one even). I never thought I would like having a digital speedo, but I've had them on my last 2 bikes ('99 VFR and '07 FZ1) and on my car (Honda CR-Z) and I've grown to like them.
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For the "touring" side of the bike- maybe a high power, compact ROCKIN stereo!
I typically have ear buds in with music at very low volume so I can still hear the traffic around me. But on short errands, it might be fun to have a stereo.
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Has anyone mentioned a digital speedo? I get tired of looking at the MPG or tire pressure and would love the option to show a digital speedo on the main display (in addition to the analog one even).
As long as the analog one doesn't disappear. I would love having both, but would *HATE* having a digital only speedometer. The nice thing is that change could be made completely through software, costing $0 in parts or tooling.... could even be flashed to older bikes. It *is* a shame that the display is not used for more things, and more things at once.
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Black wheels, smaller mirrors, loose some weight. How can you argue with that :-\
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Black wheels, smaller mirrors, loose some weight. How can you argue with that :-\
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+2 on black wheels 8)
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5pages in and nobody remarked about the exhaust.
I guess everyone is O.K. with the stock can then.
I would like to see
dual exhaust
self canceling signals
speedo in the display
dimmer hi beam light
flatter seat
tip over protection
better option list
choice on linked brakes and trac. control - bring the price down
bring back the tank storage compartment
Bill
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5pages in and nobody remarked about the exhaust.
I guess everyone is O.K. with the stock can then. I would like to see dual exhaust
Actually, I don't see the point of dual exhaust on a ST like the Concours and have absolutely no problem/beef with the stock setup. But I totally agree with the rest of your list.
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Has anyone mentioned a digital speedo? I get tired of looking at the MPG or tire pressure and would love the option to show a digital speedo on the main display (in addition to the analog one even). I never thought I would like having a digital speedo, but I've had them on my last 2 bikes ('99 VFR and '07 FZ1) and on my car (Honda CR-Z) and I've grown to like them.
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For the "touring" side of the bike- maybe a high power, compact ROCKIN stereo!
I typically have ear buds in with music at very low volume so I can still hear the traffic around me. But on short errands, it might be fun to have a stereo.
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I think they should add everything all posters have mentioned. In addition to that, they should make multiple choices wherever a choice might present itself in areas such as secondary 'flies mapping, economy mode (not just one mode but a sliding scale in one- percent increments), traction control (we should be able to bring the front wheel up but only to the pre-set height, in inches and, of course, meters), the brake link system (all us to like our brakes together across different bikes so when we ride in a group, we all slow down together). Finally, I think this new model should have the price dropped by at least 10%.
Just a thought but you folks should be careful of what you ask for- the Ford Edsel was the first customer driven design automobile. It incorporated as many of the 'improvements' desired by the car buying public as possible after extensive polling. The result was a massive marketing failure for Ford that cost them in the neighborhood of $400,000,000.00 Apparently the public thought it was overpriced and was not sure just where it fit into the Ford auto lineup. So when the public demands things from manufacturers that public is going to get them- more and more as the years go by. Most people will NOT like at least some of the improvements but one thing is certain- we will all pay for all the changes.
Brian
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i also do not know anyone who hasnt added risers to his bike, hey kawi how about designing the bike for american sport touring riders who happen to average more than 5 4 in height.
no risers here, and I am 6'3. I can't imagine the bars being any higher than they are - already feels like I am sitting my head on my hands when I crank it over in a turn.
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I would like to see direct injection to increase power AND fuel economy.
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Jojje:
Wouldn't it be easier to just buy the BMW 1600LT? :)
-David
Athens, GA
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Jojje:
Wouldn't it be easier to just buy the BMW 1600LT? :)
-David
Athens, GA
I will take a GT model......... 8)
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I just love my Blue 2010 abs C-14!!!
I wouldn't mind a nice Cruise Control system.
I'll trade the linked brakes for half of the price mark-up.
Did I mention I hate the linked brakes? Oh, but I do hate them!
Color matching wheels on this blue bike would be so "SWEET!!!". I think. Black looks great on the black bikes.
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Steve...
You don't have to drive it in afterburner mode all the time! Learn to enjoy the ride without being at over 100mph all the time.
Tune the 14 Ninja motor, dual exhausts low restriction mufflers have the economy mode in your speedo, and ride accordingly....when you want the power....push the little button and go!
Ninja
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It could be cheaper......
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Factory cruise control in place of KiPass. Tip over protection, it's a heavy bike, it will happen. Larger fuel capacity by at least a gallon.
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Adjustable seat height and position. (-1 inch std +1 inch)
Adjustable handle bar height and position (like Phil's new design)
Built in GPS (or at least the mount to hold one)
Stronger Windscreen Mount
Sun visor for dash
Easier to remove plastic parts for servicing
Reduction in turning radius
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+++? on the cruise and increased fuel capacity.
Factory designed, plug/play aux lighting would be cool.
What about a bar-mounted thumb bell thingie to replace the pathetic horn?
I'm only 5'7", but the stock height is nothing after a 36" high KLR seat so lets spend the engineering dollars that would entail on something we all want...KIPASS II!
I swear that damned thing is killing my phone.
A few extra-cost custom colors would be sweet. Green would probably add at least 15 mph to the top end.
The bars are already higher than I would prefer...
Why would anyone want an a digital speedo that was wrong too? My Zumo is right on the money.
Double-barrelled bazookas? Yikes.
Wait, I just realized what we need to bring us total hapiness: A cool automated electronic tranny just like the tuning fork folks!
Farkles make me happy until someone sees the bill. ;D