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The C-14, aka Kawasaki Concours-14, the new one :) => Accessories and modifications - C14/GTR 1400 => Topic started by: jamiemac on March 05, 2013, 06:46:13 AM

Title: Interesting camera mount for fuel tank
Post by: jamiemac on March 05, 2013, 06:46:13 AM
Has anyone used one of these MotorSportsMachine camera/GPS mounts on a Connie? They are made for a ZX14, but on a Connie, I'm wondering if the glovebox would be an issue. The rubber mounting of the fuel tank would probably be the best way to isolate a ContourRoam from vibration, but I don't see much out there for the Connie.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/160799753313?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/160799753313?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649)

(http://www.shop.fastbikesusa.com/images/Yamaha%202004%20R1%202.jpg)
(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/KAWASAKI-SILVER-VIDEO-CAMERA-MOUNT-GAS-TANK-MOUNT-/00/s/MjI1WDMwMA==/z/NUkAAMXQH6BRFCgq/$%28KGrHqV,!pEFC+uQ3h1jBRFCgqV75g~~60_35.JPG)
Title: Re: Interesting camera mount for fuel tank
Post by: connie1 on March 05, 2013, 10:40:41 AM
That looks to be a nice piece.
If the hinge near the tank is actually a hinge it should work with a glovebox in front of it.
I like the fact that once you set it up it should produce a replicable mounting position from day to day. It also stays on the centerline of the bike instead of looking to the outside of curves like the handlebar mounted ones.
Get one and fill us in on your thoughts.
Title: Re: Interesting camera mount for fuel tank
Post by: jamiemac on March 05, 2013, 10:49:34 AM
Still thinking it over. So far the supplier has failed to respond to a message through both ebay, and their website, so it appears that customer service isn't a priority with them.
Title: Re: Interesting camera mount for fuel tank
Post by: 556ALPHA on March 05, 2013, 05:25:22 PM
You could always use a spacer.
Title: Re: Interesting camera mount for fuel tank
Post by: OCK913 on March 05, 2013, 06:33:31 PM
I don't know how long that arm is, but I doubt that it is going to see over the C14 windshield. Even if it did, it would be right in your field of vision. In my experience thus far, trying to shoot video thru the windshield has provided lesser quality results than I am willing to accept. You may not realize it, but at speed, your windshield vibrates or shutters with the wind rushing against. The camera picks this up and distorts the video.
Title: Re: Interesting camera mount for fuel tank
Post by: jamiemac on March 05, 2013, 07:00:52 PM
I wouldn't be concerned about seeing over the windshield, because seeing the dashboard and gauges is part of the idea. I'm going to try using the Ram Mount on My left handlebar first, if that shakes too much, then I might just velcro the camera to MY clutch master cyl.

I'll consider the tank mounting solution, if none of those pan out. First I need some less than absurdly crappy weather.
Title: Re: Interesting camera mount for fuel tank
Post by: CIG4R on March 06, 2013, 09:01:32 AM
It does look like it's low for a C-14. 
Title: Re: Interesting camera mount for fuel tank
Post by: VirginiaJim on March 06, 2013, 03:31:13 PM
How low can it go?
Title: Re: Interesting camera mount for fuel tank
Post by: jamiemac on March 06, 2013, 03:40:44 PM
How low can it go?
That's the thing, the sellers finally responded, but have never tried it on a Concours before. I hesitate to buy something for 60 bux, that,"could" work, but might not. No way of knowing how low it would go, or how high. It's made for a ZX14, and they don't have a glove box in front of the tank.
Title: Re: Interesting camera mount for fuel tank
Post by: jamiemac on March 06, 2013, 05:46:23 PM
After looking at pics of the mount and shots I have of My bike, I'm pretty sure this mount will not work on an 08 or 09. I do believe it can be used on a 10 or later though, at least with a spacer as was mentioned above.
Title: Re: Interesting camera mount for fuel tank
Post by: pistole on March 07, 2013, 01:35:52 AM
- these things work with sportsbikes (where the tank is taller than the instruments).

- it will not work with tourers/sport tourers like the C14 as the instrument binnacle is a fair bit taller than the tank.

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Title: Re: Interesting camera mount for fuel tank
Post by: jamiemac on March 07, 2013, 02:14:06 AM
- these things work with sportsbikes (where the tank is taller than the instruments).

- it will not work with tourers/sport tourers like the C14 as the instrument binnacle is a fair bit taller than the tank.

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Thanks, Man. :)
Title: Re: Interesting camera mount for fuel tank
Post by: 556ALPHA on March 08, 2013, 06:39:22 PM
this looks like a better option but still not sure:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Kawasaki-/170999584710?fits=Make:Kawasaki (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Kawasaki-/170999584710?fits=Make:Kawasaki)|Model:Concours|Submodel:14&hash=item27d05e97c6&item=170999584710&pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&vxp=mtr
Title: Re: Interesting camera mount for fuel tank
Post by: OCK913 on March 08, 2013, 07:13:06 PM
this looks like a better option but still not sure:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Kawasaki-/170999584710?fits=Make:Kawasaki (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Kawasaki-/170999584710?fits=Make:Kawasaki)|Model:Concours|Submodel:14&hash=item27d05e97c6&item=170999584710&pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&vxp=mtr

This one appears to be even worse. The reach on it is even shorter and when you lift it up there is not another pivot point to give you a horizontal platform to a camera on.
Title: Re: Interesting camera mount for fuel tank
Post by: jamiemac on March 08, 2013, 07:41:34 PM
This one appears to be even worse. The reach on it is even shorter and when you lift it up there is not another pivot point to give you a horizontal platform to a camera on.
It's designed to attach a Ram Mount extension to. With the 4" Ram Mount, it would work fine, if it were not for the glove box.
Title: Re: Interesting camera mount for fuel tank
Post by: MGvaleri on March 09, 2013, 06:27:48 AM
Tell me which one you like, I could help you do it yourself. ;D

http://youtu.be/pUxL82znvk8 (http://youtu.be/pUxL82znvk8)

http://youtu.be/ps_rN9gmh4s (http://youtu.be/ps_rN9gmh4s)

http://youtu.be/3VhJkvUM43w (http://youtu.be/3VhJkvUM43w)

http://youtu.be/07WfuKCrgVw (http://youtu.be/07WfuKCrgVw)

http://youtu.be/rH-Amz639pg (http://youtu.be/rH-Amz639pg)

Il RE dell'inquatradura a 360°

MGvalerio. 8)
Title: Re: Interesting camera mount for fuel tank
Post by: jamiemac on March 09, 2013, 06:46:25 AM
I'm just using a standard tripod camera mount by Ram-Mount on My handlebars. It's working ok.
Title: Re: Interesting camera mount for fuel tank
Post by: jamiemac on March 09, 2013, 06:57:54 AM
Short little video I shot yesterday, using a standard 3' Ram Mount on the handlebars.
http://youtu.be/AGhYHQdlPgA (http://youtu.be/AGhYHQdlPgA)
Title: Re: Interesting camera mount for fuel tank
Post by: ssbraun on March 09, 2013, 08:15:39 AM
Quote
Tell me which one you like, I could help you do it yourself.

Maybe you could "help" me with the cnc programming code for that beautiful luggage rack setup you made for the 47L trunk :thumbs: ;D

Still can't stop dreaming about that little gem!!!  :hail:
Title: Re: Interesting camera mount for fuel tank
Post by: 556ALPHA on March 09, 2013, 08:49:39 AM
It's designed to attach a Ram Mount extension to. With the 4" Ram Mount, it would work fine, if it were not for the glove box.

My idea was to rotate it 180 degrees so the tank is not an issue.  Would not take too much effort to figure out. 
Title: Re: Interesting camera mount for fuel tank
Post by: MGvaleri on March 10, 2013, 03:04:40 PM
Maybe you could "help" me with the cnc programming code for that beautiful luggage rack setup you made for the 47L trunk :thumbs: ;D

Still can't stop dreaming about that little gem!!!  :hail:

I have a motion level beyond my ability, not for this I find it fantastic, it is, with my plate is really the Queen of GT fast.

(http://i45.tinypic.com/35k0955.jpg)

(http://i48.tinypic.com/egzgx5.jpg)

MGvalerio. 8)

Title: Re: Interesting camera mount for fuel tank
Post by: Yves on March 10, 2013, 04:31:06 PM
They have it all for you..
http://www.rammount.com/Products/CameraMounts/tabid/109/Default.aspx#/wizard (http://www.rammount.com/Products/CameraMounts/tabid/109/Default.aspx#/wizard)
Title: Re: Interesting camera mount for fuel tank
Post by: jamiemac on March 10, 2013, 04:41:16 PM
Thanks for that link. I have lots of Ram Mount stuff. Great products.
Title: Re: Interesting camera mount for fuel tank
Post by: old jack on March 16, 2013, 07:50:31 AM
Just though I would throw my 2 cents in, there is not a lot to do when its -10 today.

Anyway I have been riding for 50 years and have been taking picture forever. In my experience, it you want the very best Video on a Motorcycle there is only one place to mount a camera and that's on your helmet. Your head is the best stabilizer out there and if you want smooth Video this is the way to do it. I have hundreds of hours of Video on Road Bikes, Dirt Bikes, ATV's and even  Ice Boats in the Winter with this set-up and have got what a lot of my friends consider the best private Video of them they have seen.

It might cost you maybe $25.00 for this mount,  two 1 inch Ram Ball Mounts and in my case a 1 1/2 adapter. (Ram make any number of different sizes) If anyone is interest I can go into more detail on making the helmet mount but its pretty easy.

The camera also goes were you look so if you want a gauge picture just keep your eyes up and tilt your Helmet down, or turn the thing around to see where you have been or to take pictures of  you buddies behind you. (some of the best views of them)

See the pictures attached, I didn't spend a lot of time taking these stills so bare with me.

I use a Contour HD Camera because its small and very rugged, I can't tell you how may branches this thing has hit and it keeps on ticking. and it tucks in pretty tight if need be.

Old Jack
Title: Re: Interesting camera mount for fuel tank
Post by: pistole on March 16, 2013, 08:41:14 AM
In my experience, it you want the very best Video on a Motorcycle there is only one place to mount a camera and that's on your helmet. Your head is the best stabilizer out there and if you want smooth Video this is the way to do it

- i had thought so too , but having experimented with a GoPro on my helmet versus mounted on the side of bike , would say that a solid bike mount is the best.

- anyhow , you can see and evaluate for yourself in these two videos (the first is helmet mounted) and the second is bike mounted.

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Cayman & Merc - This was Fast (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3CEZBF6xmSE#)

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Jemaluang to Kluang (10th March 2013) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRKYlGsWPZM#)


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Title: Re: Interesting camera mount for fuel tank
Post by: pistole on March 16, 2013, 08:58:56 AM
- that and with a helmet mount , the appearance/perception of elevation changes and curvature is largely lost.

- example :

HWY 4 - Brilliant Curves & Elevation (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o868vRUV5yM#)

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- and if you tend to ride fast , a cam mounted on your helmet is a constant distraction , not to mention the fact that you can't check on what the cam is doing (there were times when I could not remember whether I had pressed the recording button or not).

- for a solid bike mount , you need to take your time to select the place and fashion a good mount. And you'll also need to test.

cheers
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Title: Re: Interesting camera mount for fuel tank
Post by: old jack on March 16, 2013, 09:42:31 AM
Nice Video's, but I guess you have never riding in Canada, you would need to spend a lot of time finding a smooth road up here. So I guess its a matter as you say of experimenting. My choice would still be the side of the Helmet, basically the rider view.

Old Jack
Title: Re: Interesting camera mount for fuel tank
Post by: OCK913 on March 16, 2013, 10:56:09 AM
- i had thought so too , but having experimented with a GoPro on my helmet versus mounted on the side of bike , would say that a solid bike mount is the best.

pistole, can you share a little more info & pics on how and where you mounted it on your bike? I like the camera view from there but not sure how you achieved it. I get nervous trusting my $300 camera to a suction cup mount of double sided tape.
Title: Re: Interesting camera mount for fuel tank
Post by: MGvaleri on March 16, 2013, 01:39:23 PM
pistole, can you share a little more info & pics on how and where you mounted it on your bike? I like the camera view from there but not sure how you achieved it. I get nervous trusting my $300 camera to a suction cup mount of double sided tape.

KIT    FAI DA TE
http://youtu.be/URnM1ENZWaA (http://youtu.be/URnM1ENZWaA)

MGvalerio. 8)
Title: Re: Interesting camera mount for fuel tank
Post by: OCK913 on March 16, 2013, 01:47:42 PM
KIT    FAI DA TE
MGvalerio. 8)

Thanks for the post MG, but I don't know why you quoted me ..... it has nothing to do with my question.
Title: Re: Interesting camera mount for fuel tank
Post by: pistole on March 17, 2013, 03:23:57 AM
pistole, can you share a little more info & pics on how and where you mounted it on your bike? I like the camera view from there but not sure how you achieved it. I get nervous trusting my $300 camera to a suction cup mount of double sided tape.

- hi.

- below is the present setup that is on the bike. Its zip-tied to the R&G Adventure Bars (crash bars).

(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y141/pistole/GTR/170320131875_zps3e4845bf.jpg)

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- before the R&G bars were installed , I had the setup below (again zip tied , but to the fairing's side strakes). It worked too , but the GoPro was too close to the fairing and the vid showed too much of the bike.

- that and all that hot air breathing constantly on the cam was/would probably not be such a great thing ....

(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y141/pistole/GoPro%20Jan%202013/2201201317091_zps59f0914b.jpg)

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- anyhow , good luck experimenting ! And yeah , I don't trust the suction cup either , but if you secure the cam with a tether , it would really expand your choices of places that you could put the cam.

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