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The C-14, aka Kawasaki Concours-14, the new one :) => The Bike - C14/GTR 1400 => Topic started by: martin_14 on February 28, 2013, 08:57:44 AM

Title: lost your bags? --> blame the Germans
Post by: martin_14 on February 28, 2013, 08:57:44 AM
While doing some research for a component that I'm developing at work, I had to find a supplier who could do some complicated plastic parts, and came across this (http://www.jdeha.de/Advanced_development_design_and_engineering.php). Looks familiar?
Title: Re: lost your bags? --> blame the Germans
Post by: Conrad on February 28, 2013, 08:59:41 AM
 :rotflmao:

You had better keep looking Martin!
Title: Re: lost your bags? --> blame the Germans
Post by: Rhino on February 28, 2013, 09:05:40 AM
Wow! What are the chances of running across that? I wonder what other design parts Kawi outsourced. I've done some work with Infineon on automotive electronics including ECM's.
Title: Re: lost your bags? --> blame the Germans
Post by: motocopter on February 28, 2013, 09:13:04 AM
Interesting to see that CAD drawing!

The C14 ABS isa  Bosch unit, right? They were probably the best choice for that task. I suspect big K would have provided a statement of work and design details to Bosch.
Title: Re: lost your bags? --> blame the Germans
Post by: VirginiaJim on February 28, 2013, 03:07:06 PM
 :yikes:
Title: Re: lost your bags? --> blame the Germans
Post by: maxtog on February 28, 2013, 04:32:50 PM
Wow- that is too funny/freaky.  What are the odds???!!
Title: Re: lost your bags? --> blame the Germans
Post by: stevewfl on February 28, 2013, 06:05:02 PM
Lost my bags?  Quite the opposite, I've overstuffed mine about every distance trip I've been on including offroading in the desert.

I should've known there's some awesome german engineering on this bike somewhere. I'm willing to bet they invented Kipass too  (http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j180/stevewfl/icon10.gif)(http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j180/stevewfl/icon10.gif)(http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j180/stevewfl/icon10.gif)
Title: Re: lost your bags? --> blame the Germans
Post by: reesedp on February 28, 2013, 06:56:54 PM
I thought I heard someone on here say that when their bag fell off it made a noise like "Aach!""
Title: Re: lost your bags? --> blame the Germans
Post by: rcannon409 on February 28, 2013, 08:09:57 PM
It makes me wonder just which parts are Kawasaki and what has been outsourced?  Martin, if you do need a handle assy. for something, make sure you get the wire keepers we all had to get on ebay.  Maybe they furnish color coded zip tyes with each handle purchase?
Title: Re: lost your bags? --> blame the Germans
Post by: Boomer on March 01, 2013, 04:19:10 AM
The intelligent manufacturers outsource a lot of their work to people who do a better job.
I am not at all surprised that a German company designed the pannier latches.
How can you tell if these are the MK1 or MK2 latches? Perhaps they went to the Germans to fix the MK1 problem.
I would be surprised if all of the bike was Japanese made/designed.

In todays global market the whole idea of buying a particular "nationality" product is laughable.
I guess you could buy "nationality" beef steaks but something as complex as a motorcycle,.... nah.
Personally I like my anglo/french/swedish horse/beef Ikea meatballs as much as I like my Japanese/German/American/Korean steel/aluminium/plastic motorcycle.  8)
Title: Re: lost your bags? --> blame the Germans
Post by: jonathan on March 01, 2013, 07:56:19 AM
Verry interestink!

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-lNt0QcrhLFI/UHYoHhYb65I/AAAAAAAADgQ/MpJp2zeq4yw/s1600/colonel_klink.jpg)
Title: Re: lost your bags? --> blame the Germans
Post by: Rhino on March 01, 2013, 07:57:28 AM
Lost my bags?  Quite the opposite, I've overstuffed mine about every distance trip I've been on including offroading in the desert.

I should've known there's some awesome german engineering on this bike somewhere. I'm willing to bet they invented Kipass too  (http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j180/stevewfl/icon10.gif)(http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j180/stevewfl/icon10.gif)(http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j180/stevewfl/icon10.gif)

+1 never had a problem with my bags. But early on I bought the little wire doo dads that go under the handle and hook to the grab rails.
Title: Re: lost your bags? --> blame the Germans
Post by: ZG on March 01, 2013, 09:40:42 AM
Verry interestink!

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-lNt0QcrhLFI/UHYoHhYb65I/AAAAAAAADgQ/MpJp2zeq4yw/s1600/colonel_klink.jpg)

 
 :rotflmao:
Title: Re: lost your bags? --> blame the Germans
Post by: VirginiaJim on March 01, 2013, 04:20:13 PM
The intelligent manufacturers outsource a lot of their work to people who do a better job.
I am not at all surprised that a German company designed the pannier latches.
How can you tell if these are the MK1 or MK2 latches? Perhaps they went to the Germans to fix the MK1 problem.
I would be surprised if all of the bike was Japanese made/designed.

In todays global market the whole idea of buying a particular "nationality" product is laughable.
I guess you could buy "nationality" beef steaks but something as complex as a motorcycle,.... nah.
Personally I like my anglo/french/swedish horse/beef Ikea meatballs as much as I like my Japanese/German/American/Korean steel/aluminium/plastic motorcycle.  8)

+1
Title: Re: lost your bags? --> blame the Germans
Post by: rcannon409 on March 03, 2013, 08:05:22 AM
No one has said this, but if the bag latches are made in Germany, I'm assuming the center compartment latch on the 08-09 bikes is made and designed in Mexico?
Title: Re: lost your bags? --> blame the Germans
Post by: gPink on March 03, 2013, 08:14:29 AM
...ah yes, the useless box.

http://youtu.be/aqAUmgE3WyM (http://youtu.be/aqAUmgE3WyM)
Title: Re: lost your bags? --> blame the Germans
Post by: Conrad on March 03, 2013, 08:21:23 AM
 :rotflmao:

That box reminds me of Illinois politicians, except that it didn't cost me any money, yet...
Title: Re: lost your bags? --> blame the Germans
Post by: Shoe on March 03, 2013, 08:43:56 AM
While doing some research for a component that I'm developing at work, I had to find a supplier who could do some complicated plastic parts, and came across this (http://www.jdeha.de/Advanced_development_design_and_engineering.php). Looks familiar?

If you owned a 2003 BMW K1200RS you would know that the mechanism used on the BMW detachable saddle bag is almost identical to that used on the C14 bags. Dimensional it is slightly different. One important difference is material. Where Kawasaki uses plastic BMW uses Aluminum. Other than those two differences thet method of attaching/detaching is eaxactly the same. I didn't have my BMW long enough to know if there was a problem with bags falling off of the bike.
Title: Re: lost your bags? --> blame the Germans
Post by: Rhino on March 03, 2013, 10:34:00 AM
...ah yes, the useless box.

http://youtu.be/aqAUmgE3WyM (http://youtu.be/aqAUmgE3WyM)

 :rotflmao: I don't think I've every seen anything quite so useless that I wanted to have.
Title: Re: lost your bags? --> blame the Germans
Post by: connie1 on March 04, 2013, 08:07:31 AM
 :rotflmao:
For some strange reason I want one too!
Title: Re: lost your bags? --> blame the Germans
Post by: Conrad on March 04, 2013, 08:47:08 AM
...ah yes, the useless box.

http://youtu.be/aqAUmgE3WyM (http://youtu.be/aqAUmgE3WyM)

:rotflmao: I don't think I've every seen anything quite so useless that I wanted to have.

:rotflmao:
For some strange reason I want one too!

Group buy?    :)
Title: Re: lost your bags? --> blame the Germans
Post by: stevewfl on March 04, 2013, 08:50:18 AM
If you owned a 2003 BMW K1200RS you would know that the mechanism used on the BMW detachable saddle bag is almost identical to that used on the C14 bags. Dimensional it is slightly different. One important difference is material. Where Kawasaki uses plastic BMW uses Aluminum. Other than those two differences thet method of attaching/detaching is eaxactly the same. I didn't have my BMW long enough to know if there was a problem with bags falling off of the bike.

(http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j180/stevewfl/avatars/eek1.gif)
Title: Re: lost your bags? --> blame the Germans
Post by: Rhino on March 04, 2013, 08:52:20 AM
Group buy?    :)

 :rotflmao: Conrad you crack me up!
Title: Re: lost your bags? --> blame the Germans
Post by: Conrad on March 04, 2013, 08:56:51 AM
:rotflmao: Conrad you crack me up!

 ;D

I showed that box to my wife, I got the eye roll.    ::)     :o
Title: Re: lost your bags? --> blame the Germans
Post by: marku8a on March 04, 2013, 09:37:03 PM
...ah yes, the useless box.

:rotflmao: I don't think I've every seen anything quite so useless that I wanted to have.

:rotflmao:
For some strange reason I want one too!

Group buy?    :)

I am not waiting on any stinking group buy! Currently on order. I will do a build write up with photos when complete!!

Mark
Title: Re: lost your bags? --> blame the Germans
Post by: gPink on March 05, 2013, 03:50:44 AM
I am not waiting on any stinking group buy! Currently on order. I will do a build write up with photos when complete!!

Mark
:rotflmao: :thumbs: