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The C-14, aka Kawasaki Concours-14, the new one :) => The Bike - C14/GTR 1400 => Topic started by: billyzoom on February 18, 2013, 01:43:12 AM

Title: How to remove your oil filter video...without a filter wrench!
Post by: billyzoom on February 18, 2013, 01:43:12 AM
Hey, folks.

Just did the first oil change on my Concours and thought I might run into trouble.  I was able to get the oil filter off and thought I'd share how for those of you who either don't have a filter wrench handy, or perhaps need more leverage.   

http://youtu.be/AdHaZkaTePQ (http://youtu.be/AdHaZkaTePQ)

Thanks!

Joel
Title: Re: How to remove your oil filter video...without a wrench!
Post by: billyzoom on February 18, 2013, 01:48:07 AM
I'm ashamed to acknowledge that I missed countless opportunities to slip in "that's what she said" at various points during my instructions.
Title: Re: How to remove your oil filter video...without a wrench!
Post by: jamiemac on February 18, 2013, 03:46:05 AM
Excellent improvising. This will probably help some folks.
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Post by: VirginiaJim on February 18, 2013, 04:09:25 AM
Spock - Fascinating! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFods1KSWsQ#)

I never would have thought of that....but then I have all manner of oil filter wrenches at my disposal to begin with.  I use K&N as well.  My cars use the same cap wrench that the C14 uses.
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Post by: Conrad on February 18, 2013, 04:36:07 AM
Well done Billy!
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Post by: martin_14 on February 18, 2013, 05:44:17 AM
+1!
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Post by: Slideways on February 18, 2013, 06:37:13 AM
Good one man!  :chugbeer:
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Post by: MAN OF BLUES on February 18, 2013, 10:44:48 AM
Great thinking, but I have to say he didn't have one torqued on like the 08's that were first delivered...
I tried a similar method of wrapping a Nylon strap around with a layer of innertube to grip, and it was a no-go adventure... even broke all of these during the first attempts....the strap wrench was first to blow...
(http://i1327.photobucket.com/albums/u672/MAN_OF_BLUES/old%201/COG%20TECHNICAL%20PHOTOS/2439074860015463693WeNUDn_ph.jpg)

note the "secret solution" shooting a self drilling screw thru the cup, into the filter....
that worked.... ;)
Title: Re: How to remove your oil filter video...without a wrench!
Post by: Rhino on February 18, 2013, 10:59:23 AM
I never would have thought of that....but then I have all manner of oil filter wrenches at my disposal to begin with.

+1 But very cleaver. Back in the day on other vehicles I have used the "pound a screw driver through the filter" method. Messy.
Title: Re: How to remove your oil filter video...without a wrench!
Post by: VirginiaJim on February 18, 2013, 11:36:22 AM
Great thinking, but I have to say he didn't have one torqued on like the 08's that were first delivered...

Agreed, although I was lucky on mine and I was able to use the normal metal oil filter cap. 
Title: Re: How to remove your oil filter video...without a wrench!
Post by: devilboy on February 18, 2013, 02:04:15 PM
Great Improvising!  I have never found myself in that position though.. I use a Billet oil filter that has a oil filter removal tool with a hole for 3/8" drive. I only use it to take filter off. I tighten it down by hand ONLY! never lost a  filter nor had it loosen up on me..
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Post by: fmwhit on February 18, 2013, 05:58:50 PM
Very Resourceful,  I love it, a homemade strap wrench- you may be the next McGyver. :)  Yes my 08 was pretty tight and I remember reading that many of the guys on the forum were having difficulty but I was able to get mine off without to much difficulty with the proper size wrench and a store bought strap wrench.

Fred
Title: Re: How to remove your oil filter video...without a wrench!
Post by: Madcow on February 20, 2013, 08:30:39 PM
I bought a Vise Grip Style Oil Filter Pliers A long time ago, they fit motorcycle & car filters.
(http://ep.yimg.com/ca/I/yhst-49953450248353_2251_5240336)
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Post by: VirginiaJim on February 21, 2013, 04:14:40 AM
Nice!  That will put the fear of God into that filter!
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Post by: Conrad on February 21, 2013, 04:27:25 AM
Yep, not many filters would have the balls to talk back to that wrench!
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Post by: Rhino on February 21, 2013, 07:46:41 AM
Nice!  That will put the fear of God into that filter!

 :rotflmao:
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Post by: billyzoom on February 21, 2013, 09:11:27 AM
I bought a Vise Grip Style Oil Filter Pliers A long time ago, they fit motorcycle & car filters.
(http://ep.yimg.com/ca/I/yhst-49953450248353_2251_5240336)

Reminds me of my favorite ex-girlfriend somehow...
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Post by: VirginiaJim on February 21, 2013, 09:47:16 AM
 :rotflmao:
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Post by: C14PAINKILLER on February 21, 2013, 11:52:34 AM
 :rotflmao: :rotflmao:

Wonder if fish net stocking would also work? ;)
Title: Re: How to remove your oil filter video...without a wrench!
Post by: rwilliamm on February 22, 2013, 03:52:14 PM
Crazy how tight they put them on. I had to hammer a screwdriver though the filter to get enough leverage to get it loose.
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Post by: Mugsy19 on February 23, 2013, 11:00:31 AM
Great idea. Thank you for sharing.
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Post by: 556ALPHA on February 23, 2013, 11:50:14 AM
NICE!
Title: Re: How to remove your oil filter video...without a wrench!
Post by: motocopter on February 26, 2013, 11:45:28 AM
Crazy how tight they put them on. I had to hammer a screwdriver though the filter to get enough leverage to get it loose.


Ditto. Did the same for the first oil and filter change on the 2K8Z1K.    8)
Title: Re: How to remove your oil filter video...without a wrench!
Post by: Rhino on February 26, 2013, 12:01:23 PM
I used one of these:

http://www.toolking.com/1/k_tool_international_73730_1_2_inch_square_drive_nylon_strap_filter_wrench_1051747685.php (http://www.toolking.com/1/k_tool_international_73730_1_2_inch_square_drive_nylon_strap_filter_wrench_1051747685.php)
Title: Re: How to remove your oil filter video...without a wrench!
Post by: Necron99 on February 26, 2013, 12:35:25 PM
Good video.  I use my kung fu grip.  :)
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Post by: Metal on February 26, 2013, 01:57:15 PM
When I've had an overtightened oil filter and/or the absence of a wrench, I've always resorted to a method that a motorcycle mechanic showed me once. Get a medium sized phillips screwdriver with a fairly sharp point and with a few taps of a hammer, puncture thru one side of the oil filter to the other side (obviously, make sure you have a pan underneath). Once it's through, just a good tug on the screwdriver handle (as if it were a handle on an old sailing ship wheel) will typically rotate the oil filter loose. You can hand-loosen it once it's free.
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Post by: reesedp on February 26, 2013, 05:34:07 PM
Prior to the Army, I did lube-n-tune for five years, and serviced thousands of vehicles.  It never ceased to amaze me how many time I had to use the pliers, cups, and claws.  I would say that the vast majority of the hundreds of different sizes and brands of filters had "Tighten to contact plus a half 1/2 turn" right on the side of the filter or the box it came in.   I have not had to use a wrench on one of mine since I was a teenager.  I have never had one loosen or leak either although failing to ensure the gasket came off with the old filter got me a couple of times back then.  It'll hold for a few seconds...
Title: Re: How to remove your oil filter video...without a wrench!
Post by: Conrad on February 27, 2013, 04:39:30 AM
Prior to the Army, I did lube-n-tune for five years, and serviced thousands of vehicles.  It never ceased to amaze me how many time I had to use the pliers, cups, and claws.  I would say that the vast majority of the hundreds of different sizes and brands of filters had "Tighten to contact plus a half 1/2 turn" right on the side of the filter or the box it came in.   I have not had to use a wrench on one of mine since I was a teenager.  I have never had one loosen or leak either although failing to ensure the gasket came off with the old filter got me a couple of times back then.  It'll hold for a few seconds...

I had one like that, in which the old gasket didn't come off with the old filter. Started her up and oil sprayed everywhere. It's become a habit now to check that as soon as I spin off the old filter.
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Post by: lather on February 27, 2013, 07:44:27 AM
Good video.  I use my kung fu grip.  :)
I have never needed a tool. I have a bionic grip. My thumb was shattered in a crash and the doctor rebuilt it stronger than before.
Title: Re: How to remove your oil filter video...without a wrench!
Post by: reesedp on February 28, 2013, 06:55:27 PM
I have never needed a tool. I have a bionic grip. My thumb was shattered in a crash and the doctor rebuilt it stronger than before.

Better and faster too?  Cost roughly $6,000,000 in 1980 dollars?
Title: Re: How to remove your oil filter video...without a wrench!
Post by: Rhino on March 01, 2013, 08:23:11 AM
Better and faster too?  Cost roughly $6,000,000 in 1980 dollars?

It's been what, 30 years since that show? But I can still hear the theme music in my head and the noise they use when he is lifting a tractor or something.
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Post by: BeaverMatt on March 01, 2013, 09:00:32 AM
The title says "without a wrench".  I see a wrench being used.   :o
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Post by: VirginiaJim on March 01, 2013, 04:21:55 PM
Let's not get hung up on titles and what's contained therein... ;)   Threads morph...
Title: Re: How to remove your oil filter video...without a wrench!
Post by: lather on March 04, 2013, 10:43:26 PM
Better and faster too?  Cost roughly $6,000,000 in 1980 dollars?
Not faster, just stronger. And not pretty. But it only cost about $6000 in 1986.