Kawasaki Concours Forum
The C-14, aka Kawasaki Concours-14, the new one :) => The Bike - C14/GTR 1400 => Topic started by: Z71 on February 03, 2013, 07:50:57 PM
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What is the real speed at 90 MPH indicated on C14?
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85
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Speedohealer or a GPS is your friend. 8)
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Put a 55 on the rear. Improved everything...
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Put a 55 on the rear. Improved everything...
+1
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I am just about to order new tires for my 2010 Connie. I am ordering the Michelin PR3's. So (you are saying) if I put a 55 tire on the rear the speedo would be closer. Are there any drawbacks to putting this tire on. ie clearance feel etc.
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Nothing but positive on the 55. Speedo will be closer.
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Then I'll get the 55 tires. Thanks for the advice. It was well timed.
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Put a 55 on and still had a speedo reading of 1mph to 2mph higher then the GPS showed. For me that is close enough, as long as I can figure out what the true mph are I can use that info to help answer that age old question, " Do you know how fast you were going?".
By the way, "Faster and faster until the thrill of speed overcomes the fear of death?" is not a good reply to the above question. A friend tried it thinking humor would easy the situation, not so much...
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Noooo! Don't correct anything so when you get asked the question about knowing your speed, you can truthfully answer" Sorry officer, I have no idea". When you contest the ticket in court you can blame it all on mama Kaw! :thumbs:
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Great comedy guys. Actually the speedo was close enough for me. I always use GPS speed anyway. It just will slow down the accumulation of miles (km's) on the odometer.
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I think the faster u go the more it's off. At an indicated 80 my GPS says I'm doin like 76. At 90 your prob only at 84 or so??? Too cold to test that theory here in the buckeye state, have to wait till the spring thaw ;D
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Put a 55 on the rear. Improved everything...
Better handling and improved speedo accuracy? Ok, next rear tire will be a 55.
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Great comedy guys. Actually the speedo was close enough for me. I always use GPS speed anyway. It just will slow down the accumulation of miles (km's) on the odometer.
Actually, if you are going 65 MPH according to the speedometer, but you are really approximately 59.5 MPH due to error, the odometer will be logging MORE miles than you are truly traveling. So your bike will have more miles on it according to the odometer.
I prefer to have an accurate speedo. I installed a SpeedoHealer on my RC51 but haven't yet done it on the C14 but want to.
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I think the faster u go the more it's off. At an indicated 80 my GPS says I'm doin like 76. At 90 your prob only at 84 or so??? Too cold to test that theory here in the buckeye state, have to wait till the spring thaw ;D
Looks like you have a bigger difference than most. You are saying over 5% diff. I see 120 kmh on the speedo and 117 kmh on GPS. That is under 3%. I think 3% is what most I have seen here are reporting.
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Actually, if you are going 65 MPH according to the speedometer, but you are really approximately 59.5 MPH due to error, the odometer will be logging MORE miles than you are truly traveling. So your bike will have more miles on it according to the odometer.
I prefer to have an accurate speedo. I installed a SpeedoHealer on my RC51 but haven't yet done it on the C14 but want to.
Its logging more miles in the original configuration. If you put a tire on that will reduce the indicated speed to the correct value you will also decrease the accumulated miles.
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Looks like you have a bigger difference than most. You are saying over 5% diff. I see 120 kmh on the speedo and 117 kmh on GPS. That is under 3%. I think 3% is what most I have seen here are reporting.
I'm seeing about 5% as well. 79 on my speedo is 75 on my GPS.
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Its logging more miles in the original configuration. If you put a tire on that will reduce the indicated speed to the correct value you will also decrease the accumulated miles.
We had this discussion once or twice before. If I remember correctly, the speedo is off but the odo is not.
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We had this discussion once or twice before. If I remember correctly, the speedo is off but the odo is not.
Hmmmmm... I'm going to have to check that out.
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Hmmmmm... I'm going to have to check that out.
Let us know, I'm pretty sure that I'm remembering correctly.
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Let us know, I'm pretty sure that I'm remembering correctly.
If the error is deliberate for liability purposes then this makes sense. Just never thought about it before.
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Also brings up the question if Ghul or someone else that can flash the ECU can correct the error. I wouldn't do the re-flash just for that but if your changing the map anyway and it can be done then why not?
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If the error is deliberate for liability purposes then this makes sense. Just never thought about it before.
I am sure the error is deliberate. As far as I know all bikes read high.
An interesting effect would be the indicated fuel economy would be worse by the 3% as well, and looks like the odo will now show actual - 3%, with a tire size change
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Most cars read fast as well.
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Nothing but positive on the 55.
That is not quite correct. The tire is taller, so that will raise the bike some. That is not necessarily "positive" (for example, if you need a lower bike due to shorter legs).
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Max,you're giving me a complex.
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I'm going with 4.5%....
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I'm going with 4.5%....
Are we talking about alcohol % in beer? ???
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Max,you're giving me a complex.
LOL :) Gotta keep everyone on their toes!
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Have to get a taller bike for that. ......or a 55. 8)
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Its logging more miles in the original configuration. If you put a tire on that will reduce the indicated speed to the correct value you will also decrease the accumulated miles.
I'm aware of that. I was commenting on his statement regarding the bike in its current state.
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Have to get a taller bike for that. ......or a 55. 8)
:rotflmao:
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Most cars read fast as well.
Relative to the same GPS I use on the bike my Titan is right on the money.
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+1 on the "55" rear tire chatter.
Plus it makes it handle much better (http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j180/stevewfl/bigthumb.gif)
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Have to get a taller bike for that. ......or a 55. 8)
THAT was just incredibly witty :)
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I can forgive Kawasaki for making a crude unperfect bike with a spedo off in this day and age.... but only because of the mad pow-ah of KiPass (http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j180/stevewfl/bigthumb.gif)
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I have just put on the set of PR3's 55 series on the rear. My speedometer is showing correct v the GPS now. The ODO is showing 98.5km on a 100km (GPS distance) run. So it is showing 1.5% low for accumulated distance. I think the fuel economy etc is probably low buy the 1.5% also (but that is hard to tell). Something I was also thinking about is the effect on the Traction Control, it will probably be less sensitive, as the rear is turning slower (with respect to the front), also may have some ABS sensitivit change.
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I'm seeing about 5% as well. 79 on my speedo is 75 on my GPS.
Wait. You're saying you BREAK THE LAW?
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Wait. You're saying you BREAK THE LAW?
He must have tested on the Austin bypass toll road. Speed limit it 85. ;)
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He must have tested on the Austin bypass toll road. Speed limit it 85. ;)
Yea... I tested on the Austin bypass toll road... and I married Morgan Fairchild, whom I've seen naked. Yea, that's the ticket.