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The C-14, aka Kawasaki Concours-14, the new one :) => The Bike - C14/GTR 1400 => Topic started by: jschrock1 on September 10, 2012, 07:37:29 PM

Title: using the spare key in the fob?
Post by: jschrock1 on September 10, 2012, 07:37:29 PM
I read this snippet in an article about the 2008 concours, but I don't get it?  How can you use the spare key if the FOB battery is dead?  Can you use the small key to start the bike if you don't have a fob?  It didn't work when I tested it, as I figured.;..  I just don't understand the paragraph...

Losing a transponder would be no different than losing a key (though this system can't be overridden by a locksmith, and requires contacting Kawasaki for a replacement.) If the transponder battery goes low, a meter displays a warning; if it goes out, a small key can be pulled out of the unit to operate the bike.
Title: Re: using the spare key in the fob?
Post by: PH14 on September 10, 2012, 07:46:10 PM
I read this snippet in an article about the 2008 concours, but I don't get it?  How can you use the spare key if the FOB battery is dead?  Can you use the small key to start the bike if you don't have a fob?  It didn't work when I tested it, as I figured.;..  I just don't understand the paragraph...

Losing a transponder would be no different than losing a key (though this system can't be overridden by a locksmith, and requires contacting Kawasaki for a replacement.) If the transponder battery goes low, a meter displays a warning; if it goes out, a small key can be pulled out of the unit to operate the bike.

The manual is a great help on this matter. You can still start the bike with a dead FOB battery by following its instructions, but you still need the FOB.
Title: Re: using the spare key in the fob?
Post by: dras on September 10, 2012, 10:39:57 PM
If the transponder battery goes low, a meter displays a warning; if it goes out, a small key can be pulled out of the unit to operate the bike.
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I think what they were trying to convey here is that you can pull out the spare key and place that recessed area of the fob against the front of the ignition key housing and start the bike using the passive capability (the RFID portion) of the fob. Mine works fine this way without pulling out the spare key, but it fits on there real nice with the key removed  ;).
Title: Re: using the spare key in the fob?
Post by: maxtog on September 11, 2012, 03:04:32 PM
I read this snippet in an article about the 2008 concours, but I don't get it?  How can you use the spare key if the FOB battery is dead?  Can you use the small key to start the bike if you don't have a fob?  It didn't work when I tested it, as I figured.;..  I just don't understand the paragraph...

Losing a transponder would be no different than losing a key (though this system can't be overridden by a locksmith, and requires contacting Kawasaki for a replacement.) If the transponder battery goes low, a meter displays a warning; if it goes out, a small key can be pulled out of the unit to operate the bike.

Starting the Concours always requires both an RFID fob and a key, period.   The small key is spare to open your panniers (hard bags), open the gas cover door, or replace the stovekey (big key) that is normally left in the ignition.

You should never lose your main key if you keep it in the ignition at all times when not in use for some other purpose, which is pretty much how it was designed to work.  Personally, I *NEVER* remove the main key, because I had a "regular" key cut by a locksmith that I carry to use for the panniers and gas.
Title: Re: using the spare key in the fob?
Post by: B.D.F. on September 11, 2012, 03:15:12 PM
I've heard that using the stove knob key is 'bad juju' unless one does the KiPass dance w/in 20 minutes afterward.

Brian

Starting the Concours always requires both an RFID fob and a key, period.   The small key is spare to open your panniers (hard bags), open the gas cover door, or replace the stovekey (big key) that is normally left in the ignition.

You should never lose your main key if you keep it in the ignition at all times when not in use for some other purpose, which is pretty much how it was designed to work.  Personally, I *NEVER* remove the main key, because I had a "regular" key cut by a locksmith that I carry to use for the panniers and gas.
Title: Re: using the spare key in the fob?
Post by: maxtog on September 11, 2012, 03:16:17 PM
I've heard that using the stove knob key is 'bad juju' unless one does the KiPass dance w/in 20 minutes afterward.

You forgot the required chant/prayer that must also be recited....
Title: Re: using the spare key in the fob?
Post by: B.D.F. on September 11, 2012, 03:30:40 PM
I believe that is incorrect- if you do the dance w/in the alloted time, you can skip the chant.

Of course those who think they can assuage the system by throwing salt over their shoulder are being foolish and simply tempting the fates.

Brian

You forgot the required chant/prayer that must also be recited....
Title: Re: using the spare key in the fob?
Post by: maxtog on September 11, 2012, 04:11:53 PM
I believe that is incorrect- if you do the dance w/in the alloted time, you can skip the chant.

Oh yeah, I forgot about that.  You only need the chant if you take too long to do the dance.
Title: Re: using the spare key in the fob?
Post by: Conrad on September 12, 2012, 04:54:30 AM
What happens if one dances like this?

Seinfeld - The Elaine Dance (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DY_DF2Af3LM#)
Title: Re: using the spare key in the fob?
Post by: stevewfl on September 12, 2012, 06:40:40 AM
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Title: Re: using the spare key in the fob?
Post by: Gumby on September 12, 2012, 07:53:55 AM
What happens if one dances like this?

Seinfeld - The Elaine Dance (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DY_DF2Af3LM#)

I used to could dance like that, but dropping a Buell on my foot ruined me for life  :'(
Title: Re: using the spare key in the fob?
Post by: ZG on September 12, 2012, 09:51:37 AM
What happens if one dances like this?

Seinfeld - The Elaine Dance (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DY_DF2Af3LM#)

 :rotflmao:  I love that episode!  :thumbs:
Title: Re: using the spare key in the fob?
Post by: Conrad on September 12, 2012, 10:10:15 AM

 :rotflmao:  I love that episode!  :thumbs:

Sweet fancy Moses that's some funny stuff!
Title: Re: using the spare key in the fob?
Post by: Son of Pappy on September 12, 2012, 11:45:44 AM
Wrong dance C, that is the before E start Harley dance ;)  It still applies to Harleys today, used to kick in a loose gasket ;)