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The C-14, aka Kawasaki Concours-14, the new one :) => Accessories and modifications - C14/GTR 1400 => Topic started by: Jim H on November 03, 2014, 02:12:58 PM

Title: 2010 windscreen experiment
Post by: Jim H on November 03, 2014, 02:12:58 PM
   Was wondering if anyone actually mimicked the Cali Sci cut out on the stock 2010 up screens?  I have been trying different screens from the CB ultra tour domed to the AeroFlow, and the medium versions of these as well.  The medium Cali sci and CB both are better then the stock but at the full up position.   No matter what I have tried with the stock screen so far I can not get past the roar it creates. So getting ready to cut, taped the screen and used the Cali Sci as a template......but waiting to see if anyone had tried 1st.  Wish I could try the small shields but will have to try something in the meantime. 
Title: Re: 2010 windscreen experiment
Post by: B.D.F. on November 03, 2014, 02:32:13 PM
Knew a gentleman years ago (Dave) who poked several holes along the bottom of his windshield to relieve the back- pressure and said it was very successful. As I remember, there were six, one- inch holes in the 'shield.

The cutout in the CalSci really does work very well. I do not think there is really much in the way of aerodynamics going on there, just a sufficiently large hole to let sufficient airflow through the windshield at a point above the instrument panel so the airflow is relatively unblocked.

Brian

   Was wondering if anyone actually mimicked the Cali Sci cut out on the stock 2010 up screens?  I have been trying different screens from the CB ultra tour domed to the AeroFlow, and the medium versions of these as well.  The medium Cali sci and CB both are better then the stock but at the full up position.   No matter what I have tried with the stock screen so far I can not get past the roar it creates. So getting ready to cut, taped the screen and used the Cali Sci as a template......but waiting to see if anyone had tried 1st.  Wish I could try the small shields but will have to try something in the meantime.
Title: Re: 2010 windscreen experiment
Post by: just gone on November 04, 2014, 07:17:06 AM
   Was wondering if anyone actually mimicked the Cali Sci cut out on the stock 2010 up screens? 

Yes I have. If it's back pressure that is your problem (in the raised position) then this helps, but for me it did not eliminate it. The CalSci medium also did about
the same for me, maybe not quite as good as just cutting the hole in the stock '10. If buffeting is the problem then I have no input as I have not experienced
what I would call buffeting except in strong cross winds.
(http://fartymarty.smugmug.com/photos/i-xRw8DP9/0/L/i-xRw8DP9-L.jpg)
(http://fartymarty.smugmug.com/photos/i-vtwQh7C/0/L/i-vtwQh7C-L.jpg)
(http://fartymarty.smugmug.com/photos/i-kt2hnFs/0/L/i-kt2hnFs-L.jpg)

From my two experiments with cutting the stock windshield I prefer this one (seen below) where I cut a large round hole or cutout extension at the bottom of the shield.
Still not there for totally eliminating back pressure in the raised position but the best I've encountered so far.

This is the only photo I have of the preferred (IMO) stock screen cut out, click on it and then again for the full size. My bike is the one on the right in the photo. (and yes I'm aware that it's past time to flush the brake fluid.  :P )


(http://fartymarty.smugmug.com/Motorcycles/LSR-Black-Hills-Ride-2014/i-Gb9QJ5s/0/XL/IMG_0127_-XL.jpg) (http://fartymarty.smugmug.com/Motorcycles/LSR-Black-Hills-Ride-2014/i-Gb9QJ5s/0/O/IMG_0127_.jpg)

Title: Re: 2010 windscreen experiment
Post by: Rhino on November 04, 2014, 07:24:10 AM
Looks like Kawi is putting a vent on the new 2015 C14. I wonder if theirs work better.

(http://content.kawasaki.com/content/uploads/products/6181/nx1s52k1.5ig.jpg)


BTW: nice pic of Devils Tower. I have an almost identical pic of my C14 in front of it.
Title: Re: 2010 windscreen experiment
Post by: just gone on November 04, 2014, 07:38:11 AM
Looks like Kawi is putting a vent on the new 2015 C14. I wonder if theirs work better.

Looks like it would work much better. I hope it's backward compatible.
Nice to see they did something besides partially copy ZG's former paint scheme.

BTW: nice pic of Devils Tower. I have an almost identical pic of my C14 in front of it.

Thanks.
Title: Re: 2010 windscreen experiment
Post by: Rhino on November 04, 2014, 09:20:41 AM
Looks like it would work much better. I hope it's backward compatible.
Nice to see they did something besides partially copy ZG's former paint scheme.

Thanks.

Wondering the same. Looks like it. In fact would want to buy just the louver overlay. Cut a hole on my CB and use it on that.
Title: Re: 2010 windscreen experiment
Post by: wally_games on November 04, 2014, 11:42:50 AM
The hole pattern for mounting looks wrong to me.
Title: Re: 2010 windscreen experiment
Post by: Rhino on November 04, 2014, 11:46:27 AM
The hole pattern for mounting looks wrong to me.

I know the top 2 look like they are moved inward toward one another but I think that is just an optical illusion based on the lines of the cover piece.
Title: Re: 2010 windscreen experiment
Post by: just gone on November 04, 2014, 01:18:55 PM
I know the top 2 look like they are moved inward toward one another but I think that is just an optical illusion based on the lines of the cover piece.

I agree, however I have a rather long medical history of warped vision caused by rose colored high hopes and wishful thinking.  :-[
Title: Re: 2010 windscreen experiment
Post by: Jim H on November 04, 2014, 02:50:14 PM
  I ended up cutting the stock screen to mimic the Cali Sci hole.  So we can dub it the Kawi Sci!  LOL  Anyway,  I found that it was
the same until just about all the way up and magically it quieted down quite a bit.  Not perfect but much better then it was.  I also tried a short ride with no screen and the noise was all just normal wind,  now low tones at all....so, do I shorten the stock next????? HMMMMMM 
   I did see the new screen....seems like Kawi does listen to customers!  Will be interesting to see if it is indeed better and if it will fit our bikes as well!   

Jim
Title: Re: 2010 windscreen experiment
Post by: maxtog on November 04, 2014, 04:04:55 PM
Looks like it would work much better. I hope it's backward compatible.

One would think it would be compatible.  However, when I look at the two mounting screws, they appear to be in a slightly different position.  Hmm... guess we will have to continue to speculate for a while.

I think the vent is pretty damn ugly, but it looks like it would be very functional, and I think I would want it, anyway.
Title: Re: 2010 windscreen experiment
Post by: Rhino on November 04, 2014, 04:43:57 PM
One would think it would be compatible.  However, when I look at the two mounting screws, they appear to be in a slightly different position.  Hmm... guess we will have to continue to speculate for a while.

I think the vent is pretty damn ugly, but it looks like it would be very functional, and I think I would want it, anyway.

The slant of the lines on the bracket make it look that way. But I'm betting its the same holes.
Title: Re: 2010 windscreen experiment
Post by: maxtog on November 04, 2014, 05:20:25 PM
The slant of the lines on the bracket make it look that way. But I'm betting its the same holes.

It very well might be (and probably is).  It is hard to tell.  It would seem like a really stupid move to change the mounting, but I have seen companies do lots of seemingly stupid things before....
Title: Re: 2010 windscreen experiment
Post by: TEXREX02 on November 04, 2014, 05:22:50 PM
The slant of the lines on the bracket make it look that way. But I'm betting its the same holes.

Agreed.  I find it highly unlikely mama Kaw would spend money retooling the windshield brackets when all of the other changes are purely cosmetic.  I'm 6' 4" and I have no problems with the stock windshield on my 2010.  The vent would be a nice improvement for riding in the Central Texas heat.
Title: Re: 2010 windscreen experiment
Post by: gPink on November 04, 2014, 05:38:48 PM
With Kaw pricing a 2014 stock windshield at $260 I rather doubt if the new vented model would be in my price range.
Title: Re: 2010 windscreen experiment
Post by: Caffeinated on November 10, 2014, 01:11:12 PM

(http://fartymarty.smugmug.com/Motorcycles/LSR-Black-Hills-Ride-2014/i-Gb9QJ5s/0/XL/IMG_0127_-XL.jpg) (http://fartymarty.smugmug.com/Motorcycles/LSR-Black-Hills-Ride-2014/i-Gb9QJ5s/0/O/IMG_0127_.jpg)

Not to derail this thread, but what kind of drop protection is on the front fairing of your bike? Looks like the rubber wings from an ST1300.
Title: Re: 2010 windscreen experiment
Post by: maxtog on November 10, 2014, 03:20:02 PM
Not to derail this thread, but what kind of drop protection is on the front fairing of your bike? Looks like the rubber wings from an ST1300.

That is interesting... I don't recall seeing ones like that before...
Title: Re: 2010 windscreen experiment
Post by: Rhino on November 10, 2014, 05:28:33 PM
Oh yea. I had to blow up the pic to see it but it does look like its off an ST1300.
Title: Re: 2010 windscreen experiment
Post by: Scaffolder on November 11, 2014, 04:21:15 PM
It looks like top block set up. I think ZG has had them before.


http://forum.cog-online.org/index.php?topic=26692.0 (http://forum.cog-online.org/index.php?topic=26692.0)
Title: Re: 2010 windscreen experiment
Post by: maxtog on November 11, 2014, 04:26:41 PM
It looks like top block set up. I think ZG has had them before.

No, it doesn't look like the Top Blocs product.  It is something else.
Title: Re: 2010 windscreen experiment
Post by: Conniesaki on November 11, 2014, 07:37:58 PM
Zoom:

(http://i768.photobucket.com/albums/xx321/mr_beeps/IMG_0127_zm_zpsf2b24ff0.jpg)
Title: Re: 2010 windscreen experiment
Post by: maxtog on November 11, 2014, 08:10:51 PM
Zoom:

You are supposed to say "Zoom!  Enhance!  Zoom!  Enhance!"

http://petapixel.com/2012/08/17/ridiculous-photo-enhancement-scene-from-the-tv-show-csi/ (http://petapixel.com/2012/08/17/ridiculous-photo-enhancement-scene-from-the-tv-show-csi/)
Title: Re: 2010 windscreen experiment
Post by: Tremainiac on November 11, 2014, 08:11:24 PM
 :popcorn: we are waiting...
Title: Re: 2010 windscreen experiment
Post by: Rhino on November 12, 2014, 07:06:17 AM
Zoom:

(http://i768.photobucket.com/albums/xx321/mr_beeps/IMG_0127_zm_zpsf2b24ff0.jpg)

That sure looks like the Honda ST rubber bumpers.
Title: Re: 2010 windscreen experiment
Post by: Rhino on November 12, 2014, 07:12:58 AM
(http://images.motorcycle-usa.com/PhotoGallerys/ST1300_05new.jpg)
Title: Re: 2010 windscreen experiment
Post by: just gone on November 12, 2014, 09:52:13 AM

:popcorn: we are waiting...

Sorry 'bout the delay, I was out of town camping in Big Bend N.P. so there was limited internet availability for me...

But yes, those are Honda ST1300 covers over top block sliders. The Gen II Top Blocks are not as nice looking as the Gen I Top Blocks
so I decided to cover them.

http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?topic=314.msg159946#msg159946 (http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?topic=314.msg159946#msg159946)

-----------------------------------------------------

You are supposed to say "Zoom!  Enhance!  Zoom!  Enhance!"

http://petapixel.com/2012/08/17/ridiculous-photo-enhancement-scene-from-the-tv-show-csi/ (http://petapixel.com/2012/08/17/ridiculous-photo-enhancement-scene-from-the-tv-show-csi/)

 :rotflmao:

TV, despite some great shows, still comes up with some really stupid stuff....such as the first episode of Scorpions this year. (I haven't watched it since, but I doubt it has got any better.).

OK, thread should now return to Stock Windshield experimentation. (well maybe)  :-\   ;)
Title: Re: 2010 windscreen experiment
Post by: maxtog on November 12, 2014, 03:18:09 PM
But yes, those are Honda ST1300 covers over top block sliders.  http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?topic=314.msg159946#msg159946 (http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?topic=314.msg159946#msg159946)

HA! LOL!  I wonder how I missed that post.  So you have a hybrid solution :)

Quote
OK, thread should now return to Stock Windshield experimentation. (well maybe)  :-\   ;)

Is that what this thread was about???
Title: Re: 2010 windscreen experiment
Post by: Rhino on November 12, 2014, 03:53:43 PM
Sorry 'bout the delay, I was out of town camping in Big Bend N.P. so there was limited internet availability for me...

But yes, those are Honda ST1300 covers over top block sliders. The Gen II Top Blocks are not as nice looking as the Gen I Top Blocks
so I decided to cover them.

http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?topic=314.msg159946#msg159946 (http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?topic=314.msg159946#msg159946)

-----------------------------------------------------

 :rotflmao:

TV, despite some great shows, still comes up with some really stupid stuff....such as the first episode of Scorpions this year. (I haven't watched it since, but I doubt it has got any better.).

OK, thread should now return to Stock Windshield experimentation. (well maybe)  :-\   ;)

Were like a bunch of dogs and a squirrel runs by...
Title: Re: 2010 windscreen experiment
Post by: Jim H on November 12, 2014, 04:27:34 PM
HA! LOL!  I wonder how I missed that post.  So you have a hybrid solution :)

Is that what this thread was about???

Yeah,  I keep checking back and it went off the rails big time! LOL  No big deal,  just sucks for someone actually using the search function!!!!!   Ha
Title: Re: 2010 windscreen experiment
Post by: Caffeinated on November 12, 2014, 06:37:56 PM
Sorry about the derailment...back to the topic at hand...I'm running an Aeroflow large shield which is a GREAT all around shield and is good for warm weather due to the huge amount of air that flows to the torso with the shield at any height. Unfortunately all that air flow is cold in the winter. I have a couple of the larger stock shields, and I want to do something along the same lines as the OP to relieve the back pressure, while blocking the cold. I may try four 1-1.5" holes. two in the middle of the shield, and one on each outside edge.

Title: Re: 2010 windscreen experiment
Post by: just gone on November 12, 2014, 10:34:54 PM
 
..... just sucks for someone actually using the search function!!!!!   Ha

Not to worry, nobody does that.  :P
Title: Re: 2010 windscreen experiment
Post by: Jim H on November 13, 2014, 04:00:56 AM
  And seems no body reads the manual either! LOL   How do I set the clock....you kidding me! HA HA 

  I am still not pleased with the stock screen....thinking about cutting it down an inch or so at a time and leaving it domed.....will wait till spring or summer and in the meantime I know I like the CB Ultra Tour Domed....so will get one.....
Please who ever plays with their shield let us know how you make out. If I go shorter I want clean air, not what I get with the stock now.