Crashed and now won't start

[lather]

I appreciate this discussion. I have been riding regularly since 1970. I quit getting my bikes inspected when I brought my 1982 VF750 Sabre to an inspection station. The young kid that was going to do the inspection started to mount my bike. I asked him if he had ever ridden a bike and he replied: "no". I took the bike and left. Since then I have been stopped quite a few times for speeding and never have I been asked by a LEO to show an inspection sticker.

[lather]

Has anyone rebuilt the clutch maSter cylinder? All Balls Racing has a front rebuild kit for $22. I have a spare clutch master that stopped working, I swapped it for the one from my parts bike which is the one cracked in the crash. So all I need is a rebuild kit.

[Freddy]

Yes - it's easy to do. I've used the AllBalls kit. Ensure the bore has no crud stuck in there.

[Pilgrim]

I appreciate this discussion. I have been riding regularly since 1970. I quit getting my bikes inspected when I brought my 1982 VF750 Sabre to an inspection station. The young kid that was going to do the inspection started to mount my bike. I asked him if he had ever ridden a bike and he replied: "no". I took the bike and left. Since then I have been stopped quite a few times for speeding and never have I been asked by a LEO to show an inspection sticker.

In NH it is a $74.40 ticket for an uninspected vehicle.  The police do check for those inspection stickers, I have been pulled over for it before.  They also patrol high traffic areas like the toll booths and popular beach routes looking for them.

I hope you get everything fixed and are back to riding soon.

[Boomer]

In Germany the annual TüV inspections are the strictest in the world and even they don't care if you use a Kawasaki fairing part or an aftermarket part.
If it was a brake, suspension, or emissions affecting part then it would have to meet TüV standards and Type Approval laws.

I've rebuilt a C10 Clutch Master cylinder and that wasn't difficult. The C14 one shouldn't be any worse.

[VirginiaJim]

The only thing with the clutch fluid is bleeding it.  Can be a bear to do, especially empty.  I think in that case I'd get a push bleeder syringe and bleed it back from the slave cylinder.  I watched a youtube vid from Delboy and that's what he did.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmY9FMbB9D8

[dbird29]

I watched that one and the only thing I would do different is use a turkey baster for removing the reservoir fluid.
Brakecrafters has a kit for $14
https://www.brakecrafters.com/products/reverse-bleeding-kit

The only thing with the clutch fluid is bleeding it.  Can be a bear to do, especially empty.  I think in that case I'd get a push bleeder syringe and bleed it back from the slave cylinder.  I watched a youtube vid from Delboy and that's what he did.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmY9FMbB9D8

[lather]

The only thing with the clutch fluid is bleeding it.  Can be a bear to do, especially empty.  I think in that case I'd get a push bleeder syringe and bleed it back from the slave cylinder.  I watched a youtube vid from Delboy and that's what he did.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmY9FMbB9D8

I have never had any problems bleeding clutch or brake with my Motion Pro bleeder. The Cycle Gear in Wichita did not carry the Motion Pro but had a Stockton bleeder which looked like a copy.
However, I could never get any real pumping pressure to get the bleeder to work. The clucth resorvoir is cracked. We tried to seal it with JB weld in the gas station parking lot but it seams like it did not work. I think the master cylinder is sucking air. The bike is still at my son's place in Wichita 750 miles away and I am still hobbling around on a bad ankle.

[lather]

Also, I want to give high praise to AMA Roadside Assistance. I was in the middle of nowhere Kansas (Dighton) The AMA agent Beth worked with me over the phone for 45 minutes before she could find a towing company that would tow the bike to Wichita 210 miles away. The only company that would do it was Kidds Towing in Wichita. The roadside assistance plan will tow 35 miles for free. AMA only charged me $75!

[robertv]

Good to know Lather! I haven't used AMA road side assistance yet but glad to know they will come through. 

Was the $75 a flat fee for whatever mileage, or is that based on the remaining miles after using the free 35 miles?

[VirginiaJim]

I have never had any problems bleeding clutch or brake with my Motion Pro bleeder. The Cycle Gear in Wichita did not carry the Motion Pro but had a Stockton bleeder which looked like a copy.
However, I could never get any real pumping pressure to get the bleeder to work. The clucth resorvoir is cracked. We tried to seal it with JB weld in the gas station parking lot but it seams like it did not work. I think the master cylinder is sucking air. The bike is still at my son's place in Wichita 750 miles away and I am still hobbling around on a bad ankle.

With an empty clutch reservoir?   I use the motion pro as well but never on an empty clutch master cylinder.  We've had a few horror stories with bleeding new setups.  And you do have history of 'things' happening...lol

[lather]

Good to know Lather! I haven't used AMA road side assistance yet but glad to know they will come through. 

Was the $75 a flat fee for whatever mileage, or is that based on the remaining miles after using the free 35 miles?

I did not ask if it was a flat fee or a per miles deal, I was kinda stunned it was so low for a 210 mile tow.

[lather]

With an empty clutch reservoir?   I use the motion pro as well but never on an empty clutch master cylinder.  We've had a few horror stories with bleeding new setups.  And you do have history of 'things' happening...lol

No, I bought a bottle of DOT3 at the store and filled it up. It did not seem to be leaking fluid but maybe it was sucking air. At any rate it would not build any pressure.

[maxtog]

I have never had any problems bleeding clutch or brake with my Motion Pro bleeder.

Me neither.  That is what I used.  Took a while, but was pretty easy.  Never let it go dry.

[dbird29]

Watch that Delboy video, it looks so easy and makes sense that the bubbles would push out the top.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmY9FMbB9D8

[PH14]

I did not ask if it was a flat fee or a per miles deal, I was kinda stunned it was so low for a 210 mile tow.

I was traveling and never saw this. Sorry to hear, but I'm glad you're okay and only had minor injuries.

I used AMA for my Ural one night. It took them forever to arrange a tow. I got a brain dead person when I called. After waiting a couple of hours I called back and got someone better. She said since I had been waiting I could arrange my own tow and they would reimburse me. I called a company I trust near my house. The dispatcher told me they had been called about my tow, but AMA was shopping for prices and didn't arrange the tow. I arranged the tow and the quickly sent out a flatbed. The tow for about 5-8 miles was $140, so you did very well at a flat rate of $75 for 210 miles. AMA reimbursed me for the full amount without any hassle.

[lather]

I drove back to Wichita over the weekend and hauled my injured Concours home. Adjuster came today and totaled it. I am going to try to get it running smoothly and make sure the engine is not damaged from overheating. The adjuster suggested it may be in "limp mode". At any rate when I turn on the ignition the display says "BATTERY" voltmeter says 12.85 volts. When I crank it is strugges to fire but eventually does afert  20 or 30 seconds but then does not want to idle. I have ordered sparkplugs.

If I can satisfy myself that the engine is good I will probably buy it back.

[lather]

I've decided to let the old girl go. I suspect the engine was damaged by overheating, just does not want to start, seems to be fireing on only two cylinders. At any rate, at 70 I feel like it is time to slow down and go with something lighter.

[Boomer]

RIP Connie 
Hope you find something more suitable 

[dbird29]

Sure wish Honda would bring the NT1100 to the US

I've decided to let the old girl go. I suspect the engine was damaged by overheating, just does not want to start, seems to be fireing on only two cylinders. At any rate, at 70 I feel like it is time to slow down and go with something lighter.