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Rexter
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KIPASS/ECU question
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March 23, 2024, 08:09:29 AM »
I’m on the road and can’t really research this while driving. Assuming i have a bike with no fob, I need to replace the system or have Carmo make a fob. If i replace the ststem, does that alsi require replacing the ECU?
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March 23, 2024, 02:30:14 PM »
If there is no fob, the ecu needs to be replaced and a new fob configured to it through a dealer. What's a Carmo? I don't think that you can make a fob without having another one to clone against. But I could be wrong...
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March 23, 2024, 04:58:20 PM »
Assuming I have a bike with no fob, I need to replace the system or have Carmo make a fob
. Yes.
If l replace the system, does that also require replacing the ECU
? Yes, the Kipass ECU and fob come together as a package. Someone with KDS (dealer) needs to then register the bike's FI and Ign lock ECUs to the new Kipass when it's fitted before the engine will start.
Carmo are in Holland.
https://www.carmo.nl/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=4102_4105
There are also the others: USA -
https://www.regulatorrectifier.com/products/2008-2012-kawasaki-concours-zg1400-gtr1400-lost-fobs-keys
Australia -
https://www.ostanlock.com.au/motorcycle-locksmith/
England/UK -
https://rockley.info/
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March 23, 2024, 06:01:19 PM »
Heres the situation.
I have an auction bike that has no fob. I can get my hands on an ignition system (complete) but I will need the main ecu as well, correct?
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March 23, 2024, 07:15:45 PM »
Not necessarily - if you send the Ign switch ECU assembly to one of those above, they can read and copy the passive fob ID and clone or 'paste' it to a new Ign key that allows you to turn the key after you have activated the system in passive mode with the chip in the new key.
They will tell you exactly what they need. The Ign swith is held on with shear bolts. They have to be very carefully loosened with a good centre punch or similar. You will also have to provide proof of ownership.
The 'complete' Ign system - what does that include?
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March 23, 2024, 10:59:55 PM »
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March 23, 2024, 11:55:40 PM »
Great, but as I said it still needs KDS to get the bike started as stated above. Is it from a North American bike - 315MHz?
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March 24, 2024, 12:19:28 AM »
Yes, its a US bike and parts. I’m not going to fool with it if i can’t get the ECU. Im not going to drag a non-running bike to a dealer to program it. Ideally I want to just swap all parts and see if it runs. I may send off the stuff to get a fob from the company CA.
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March 24, 2024, 12:32:54 AM »
Let's know how it all turns out.
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March 25, 2024, 12:41:03 AM »
Another benefit of using all the bike's original ECUs is that the TPMS will work, as long as their batteries are not flat. Their ID also resides in the Kipass ECU.
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