Will move the SENA stuff to it tomorrow.
The only difficult part was that the speakers are too thick for the Shoei earpad foamYou're supposed to remove them for speakers . Not only for better fit, but for not muffling the sound.
You're supposed to remove them for speakers . Not only for better fit, but for not muffling the sound.
Going for my first ride with the GT-Air in a bit. But I can comment on fit. I came from an XL Shoei X-12, and the GT-Air is L. It's a bit tight, but I'm relatively sure I'll be able to leave it alone. In case it was a bit tight for comfort after a few uses, both the center pad and cheek pads are offered in thinner versions (center pad from 9 to 5, and cheekpads from 35 to 31). The cheek pads are a bit tight, but they should be that way. I was used to ride with a loose helmet, which is NOT good for safety. This thing fits like a glove, tight, but with no obvious pressure points after wearing it 2 hours at home (with a head liner).
I think I have a pretty big problem with fit. 1.5 hours into a ride today, I ended up with a radiating pain headache and nausea.Oh man, sorry to hear that. That's why I now wear a new helmet at home for 2 hours before using it. It's not the same as riding, obviously. But at least I know for sure if fit is a big issue or not, since you CANNOT return a helmet if it's been used outside. I'm an expert at helmet pain by now , and if you got the wrong size and/or helmet shape (need to return it), you would know in less than an hour, when your head is throbbing. If you pass the 2-hr mark, like in my case, then a center and/or cheek pad change is the worst that can happen... and both are available for this helmet. The trick is to determine if you got the wrong size, wrong shape, or both. That'd tell you if you need a larger size, or a different helmet altogether. Go to webbikeworld.com to try to determine your head shape by previous helmets used. They have the best reviews overall, but not all are completely right, so you know. Good luck, and keep us posted.
The XL cheek pads are certainly a little too tight. If I relax my mouth completely and then close it, I would be biting my cheeks.
I think I have a pretty big problem with fit. 1.5 hours into a ride today, I ended up with a radiating pain headache and nausea. My buddy suggested we pull over and rest. When I took off the helmet the pain was gone in a few minutes. He said "you should see your head, you have red marks on your scalp. I looked in the mirror and could see only a red "dent" in my forehead, so I took out my phone and took a photo of the top of my head... amazingly it worked. I could see clear pressure marks on my scalp where the foam is located in the helmet crown. After 10 min, I put it back on, left the chin strap pretty loose, and was home in 20 min or so and the pain was just starting again.
Update! Mystery solved. All the pressure of the helmet *was* being funneled on that 1" square patch on my upper forehead. It seems like the helmet did have a slight hump there (although it was hard to tell with all the air channels). I just pushed in the EPS (expanded poly styrene foam) liner with my thumb, slightly... perhaps 2mm, in that 1" area. That is all it took, it effectively added 1/2 size to the helmet and it is slightly too loose now. No more headaches, no more red dent on my forehead!
Good to hear. We used to use a spoon for the same purpose. It is an old recommended fix that wasn't allowed to be recommended.
I was a bit worried, but my friend said "well, after a year of wearing it in pain and going over bumps and such, the EPS would be pushed in ANYWAY by your head, all you did was accelerate the process" so I didn't feel so bad.That's precisely the right way to fix a pressure point IMO. MUCH better than a next larger size, which would be much looser everywhere, and protect you less in an accident. But next time do it little by little, to end up with the perfect fit. And hate to break it to you, but the 'bump' is in your head buddy . I have one of those too. I'm ordering a thinner center pad, since I have a bit more pressure everywhere than I like. Could take it for 2 hours at my house, but will eventually bother me in a long trip. Surprisingly, haven't had to touch the EPS yet, and hope not having to do that. The 5 (vs 9mm) center pad should make it just about perfect. This is with a headliner I always wear, so I know L is the right size. I'd also like my head a smidgen more into the helmet, and the thinner center pad should achieve that as well. The main reason for that is a more effective sun shield, and most importantly, that my left ear is not bothered by the cheekpad foam below it anymore. We'll see. So far this is the best fitting helmet I've ever owned. And it's probably going to get a lot better with the new center pad. Will keep you folks posted.
I was a bit worried, but my friend said "well, after a year of wearing it in pain and going over bumps and such, the EPS would be pushed in ANYWAY by your head, all you did was accelerate the process" so I didn't feel so bad.
I guess I have a Shoei head.You have a Shoei GT Air head, not Shoei head . Don't assume all are the same, because they're not. Not that radically different, but different enough not to fit well. By the way, webbikeworld ranks each helmet by shape, although not terribly accurate. But at least it gives you an idea which helmets to consider, and which ones not to even try. Anyway, I can also say the GT Air is the best fitting helmet I've ever owned. It's slightly tight with a headliner, but uniformly tight; no pressure points. But will order the thinner center pad to avoid any pain in a long ride, which would probably happen the way it is now. It should be perfect after that. Heck, looks like I won't even need to adjust the EPS for my 2 forehead typical pressure points. Awesome.
You have a Shoei GT Air head, not Shoei head . Don't assume all are the same, because they're not.