When will Kawasaki put the new ZX14R Engine in the C-14?

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I like bacon in moderation.

Just had a pizza with bacon on it.  Like most things that taste good, Ice Cream, German Chocolate Cake, 24oz dry aged steak, etc, too much bacon isn't suppose to be good for you.  Well maybe they are OK after all.  My mother ate everything listed and lived to 92 (cancer battle)  My dad is 98 and has eaten ice cream and a double handful of roasted peanuts every night, for at least as long as I have lived, almost 65 yrs, and neither ever got fat doing so.  So enjoy what ever trips your trigger, carnivore, herbivore, or omnivore.   

[maxtog]

So enjoy what ever trips your trigger, carnivore, herbivore, or omnivore.   

You can never have too much chocolate! 

[connie14boy]

I like bacon in moderation.

I like Canadian bacon and beer a lot and and mooses in moderation.

[Rhino]

I like Canadian bacon and beer a lot and and mooses in moderation.

Now were talking, Canadian bacon, beer and a couple of moose, but not too many moose.

[Deziner]

One man's excess is another man's moderation

[rcannon409]

One of my customers gave me a piece of chocolate covered bacon. It was amazing. Its was a concours 14 in a group of mopeds. What a combo!

I dont see them adding power to this platform. They already restrict low end.  Can you imagine them testing a reflashed c14, or one with the powercommander and butterfly removal mod?

Kawasaki could easily tune the bike to that level and chose not to.

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Was reading a C14 review yesterday, and the reviewer, said that KHI needed to place the 14R engine into the Connie, to put it back on the top of the ST ladder.  He didn't speculate as to whether that would ever happen, he just felt that it should.   I think that cruise control is more important than a bigger engine, but KHI probably isn't listening to me either...  tp

[Rhino]

Was reading a C14 review yesterday, and the reviewer, said that KHI needed to place the 14R engine into the Connie, to put it back on the top of the ST ladder.  He didn't speculate as to whether that would ever happen, he just felt that it should.   I think that cruise control is more important than a bigger engine, but KHI probably isn't listening to me either...  tp

That's what I've been saying. I guess I don't care about CC because I already have it.

[maxtog]

Was reading a C14 review yesterday, and the reviewer, said that KHI needed to place the 14R engine into the Connie, to put it back on the top of the ST ladder. 

I am not disagreeing with upgrading the engine, but how is it not already not at the top of the ST ladder?

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I am not disagreeing with upgrading the engine, but how is it not already not at the top of the ST ladder?

Not me speaking here, but what I read.  Electronic suspension, cruise control, built in or add on integrated nav system, integrated bluetooth/audio system, more sophisticated computer system, with other bells and whistles.   

Now me speaking,  Nav is nice but I don't need turn by turn to enjoy a ride.  Had electronic suspension on an RT, and it was great, but not worth the extra thousands required to have.  Audio/bluetooth is ok riding two up, but the last thing I need is to answer my phone or speak with another when riding.  Tunes are cool, but any mp3 and earbuds fix that.  That leaves cruise control.  Some have corrected that with a Rostra system. 

My 08 C14 isn't perfect, but is the best ST bike I have ever owned, and I have owned at least six.  To heck with the ladder, let's ride and enjoy the ride, every single outing.  tp

[tweeter55]

To heck with the ladder, let's ride and enjoy the ride, every single outing.  tp

+100

[maxtog]

Not me speaking here, but what I read.  Electronic suspension, cruise control, built in or add on integrated nav system, integrated bluetooth/audio system, more sophisticated computer system, with other bells and whistles.   

Oh, no doubt.  Always room for improvement (if we can afford it).  But I thought by the engine comment, it was more about a question of ST performance (speed/acceleration/etc).... and the C14 is either at or tied at the top in that regard (as far as I know).

[tomp]

Oh, no doubt.  Always room for improvement (if we can afford it).  But I thought by the engine comment, it was more about a question of ST performance (speed/acceleration/etc).... and the C14 is either at or tied at the top in that regard (as far as I know).

Agree there.  The K1600's  produce fewer rear wheel HP than we do.  Nothing else comes close.  Wish I was 30+ years younger with my level of experience.  I would have a 14R with Bags in the garage, just for those insane trips.  No, not the chemically induced ones of the early 70's, the ones where tunnel vision eventually kicks in  when terminal velocity is reached....  Never so brave(stupid) again.  tp

[just gone]

The can backfires momentarily when chopping the throttle, but that doesn't bother me, so will leave the air injection crap too, to protect the cats.

I may be having a senior moment, but just what is this "air injection crap" of which you speak?

[jimmymac]

I may be having a senior moment, but just what is this "air injection crap" of which you speak?

It's at the top of the valve covers.

[tomp]

I may be having a senior moment, but just what is this "air injection crap" of which you speak?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secondary_air_injection     

[gPink]

Isn't that also the hose from the airbox that I plugged so it wouldn't screw with the O2 sensor?

[Rhino]

Our bike does not use a pump to inject air in the exhaust. The C14 and many bikes have pair valves that are one way valves that allow a small amount of air into the exhaust when there is momentary low pressure with the throttle closed. This allows some oxygen to burn off excess fuel in the exhaust. Some times the burning can be energetic and cause backfiring or popping. Closing off the hose to the pair valves restrict the amount of air and can reduce popping.

[Rhino]

I was just reading about the 2015 Multistrada 1200S. That bike can certainly be considered in the ST segment. It has 160 hp and still under 500 lbs dry. More hp then the C14 and almost 200 lbs lighter. I know a big difference in price but the C14 is no longer the performance leader in the ST segment. A bump in HP wouldn't be the worst thing Kawi could do to this bike.

[VirginiaJim]

Isn't that also the hose from the airbox that I plugged so it wouldn't screw with the O2 sensor?

We don't have 02 sensors unless you've added one.