2012-where is the "Mode" switch for ECO mode?

[Flathead]

Your slower, late model bikes seem complicated.

[maxtog]

Point taken, I probably phrased that wrong in regards to it being a "mode".
I can not find any documentation stating that this mode turns off when riding un-Eco-friendly 

You are right, it is not in the [horrible] user's manual.  In fact, the manual is very confusing and I think parts of it are even wrong.  I am not sure why I am so positive that it behaves the way I described   Even worse, there is not a single mention of "Eco" anything in the service manual (I just searched).

My main point was that there may be added confusion since there are two display indicators that are labeled ECO. So many buttons, so little time 

Oh yes, indeed it is VERY confusing.  They should have not used the word "Eco" twice.

[VirginiaJim]

Your slower, late model bikes seem complicated.

+1. 

[maxtog]

Your slower, late model bikes seem complicated.

You are just jealous of our enhanced functionality

[martin_14]

Your slower, late model bikes seem complicated.

+2

[ZG]

+2

+3...     

[jjsC6]

If you guys think the newer models are more complicated, you should try the new BMW 1600s.  But I'm not allowed to talk about that bike here....it really pisses Jim off 

[VirginiaJim]

 

[Conrad]

Your slower, late model bikes seem complicated.

On the plus side, they have more time to figure those things out.

[VirginiaJim]

Actually we have more time to ride.  We don't have to worry about F1 errors or spend time in continuing education on which button does what on the C14, not that there's anything wrong with doing that, though....

[Conrad]

On the plus side, they have more time to figure those things out.

Actually we have more time to ride.  We don't have to worry about F1 errors or spend time in continuing education on which button does what on the C14, not that there's anything wrong with doing that, though....

I meant that they have more time to figure those things out since their bikes are so much slower than our 1st gens.

If you have to 'splain it, it ain't funny no more. (maybe it never was?    )

[VirginiaJim]

Perhaps you're right in that respect, Conrad.

[twowheeladdict]

Of course you CAN just hop on it and ride and not concern yourself with all those buttons. 80% of people use 20% of the features that come with any new item from cameras, and cell phones, to motorcycles, and cars.

[Necron99]

Speaking of the 80/20 rule, my late model isn't slower than 80%+ of your retro models...because almost nobody goes anywhere near the top end speed.  And if I do care, there's always re-flash. 

[Conrad]

Of course you CAN just hop on it and ride and not concern yourself with all those buttons. 80% of people use 20% of the features that come with any new item from cameras, and cell phones, to motorcycles, and cars.

Speaking of the 80/20 rule, my late model isn't slower than 80%+ of your retro models...because almost nobody goes anywhere near the top end speed.  And if I do care, there's always re-flash. 

[twowheeladdict]

Do I spy bra straps under that T-shirt? 

[Conrad]

Do I spy bra straps under that T-shirt? 

Perhaps you're looking too closely? He doesn't seem the type to have moobs. 

[Skinny]

The automatic indicator is not an Eco "mode", it is just displaying information to the rider saying that you are operating the bike (driving)  in a Eco-friendly manner.  When the Eco indicator is on, it is not changing anything.  It does nothing else.  It cannot be turned on or off.  It is just informational, like your fuel gauge.

When "Eco Mode" is turned on (manually) AND displayed, it means the ECU is, indeed, leaning out the mixture to maximize fuel efficiency.  If you drive in an un-Eco-friendly fashion (turn the throttle too fast, or raise the RPM too high) it will temporarily disable Eco Mode until conditions return to being Eco-friendly

Thanks for the tutorial, I read the manual part about ECO mode but it wasn't explained in plain english like you just did.  Now I know.

This could have helped me make my 205 mile loop the other day without stopping (chickening out) for gas.

[maxtog]

Thanks for the tutorial, I read the manual part about ECO mode but it wasn't explained in plain english like you just did.  Now I know.

We had a thread going a long time ago about just how horrible the English is in the user's manual.  It is appalling.   And I am not just talking misspellings or bad tenses, but wording that completely destroys the meaning behind what they are trying to say.  I was shocked how bad it was, because normally Japanese manuals are very good (it is the Chinese/etc manuals are are notoriously bad).  Incidentally, the *SERVICE* manual does not have this problem.

Meanwhile:  http://www.engrish.com/

[Conrad]

We had a thread going a long time ago about just how horrible the English is in the user's manual.  It is appalling.   And I am not just talking misspellings or bad tenses, but wording that completely destroys the meaning behind what they are trying to say.  I was shocked how bad it was, because normally Japanese manuals are very good (it is the Chinese/etc manuals are are notoriously bad).  Incidentally, the *SERVICE* manual does not have this problem.

Meanwhile:  http://www.engrish.com/

Knowing how you 'are' Max, that manual must have drove you to distraction!