Thanks for the info Rhino!
Rick: What happened there was horrible indeed.
How would the situation be different if the students were armed though?
How would the situation be different if the students were armed though?
Dear T,
As someone who has been in law enforcement for the past 20 years let me give you some input here. Criminals do not care if the average man or woman is armed, as a matter of fact they prefer it that way. If a person has no way to protect themselves then they will be a victim at will for the criminals to exploit.
1) you've made the mistake of thinking all firearms are only used offensively;
2) People die when guns are in the hands of the gov't at a much higher rate than when in the hands of civilians.
3) people whose gov't have guns, and the people don't are subject to the whims of their leaders at any time. Do you know anything about history? Ever seen an armed society suffer an ethnic cleansing or genocide? Ever heard of some folks like Stalin, Hitler, Polpot? Many others too. What did they have in common? guns in the hands of the gov't., not the civilians
4) There is a truth regarding history " those who don't know history are doomed to repeat it" can you understand how that works with an armed citizenry?
Most if not all states do not allow you to carry even with a permit into schools, banks and government buildings.
Well in regards to the title of this thread [...]
I have never heard of the list including banks, and I just checked my "blue book" and there is no mention of that (so it certainly doesn't apply in Virginia).... although "places of worship", "airport gates", and "military bases" typically ARE on the list.
Oops, sorry, not sure where I got that from.
In Arizona, banks, anywhere alcohol is served, government buildings, schools, anywhere it is posted as "No Firearms", and to be honest, I forget the other places where firearms are verboten.... We have constitutional carry here, no permit required to carry concealed. Gotta love it!
Those statistics are actually kind of flawed I'm sorry to say.. They're comparing against specific countries to try and present the facts to be viewd in a certain (wrong) way.
Those countries are not at all comparable like this. You can't directly compare the US to Honduras or Zambia, that doesn't make any statistical sense whatsoever. Too many other factors will be at play.
Exactly my point. If you put all the factors in, guns are not nearly as significant. Culture and history become much more significant. The areas in the US that have the high murder rates typically do have strict gun control. In fact most of the US have similar rates to that of Europe.
The countries you want to compare to the US are MUCH older and have little or no history of slavery and racism.