Kawasaki Concours Forum
The C-14, aka Kawasaki Concours-14, the new one :) => The Bike - C14/GTR 1400 => Topic started by: Rowlander on July 23, 2011, 07:11:38 PM
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Well, I pulled my filter because I have everything else ripped off and figured why not check it out. I am glad I did... It was black!!! There were actual chunks of crap attached and around the filter and pump. To be honest, pulling the pump and filter isn't really that bad. Cleaning the filter is. I am starting off cleaning it with wd40 since it is the only thing I have on hand and it seems to be doing the job quite well. I will be letting it sit over night and check on it tomorrow. I only have 10,000 miles and can not believe the filter was that clogged. I was attributing the jumpiness at low idle to the flies being out or the throttle cables being loose. I can't wait until next week when I get her all back together and see how she acts with a clean fuel filter!!!
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Can you take a pic? I wasn't aware this bike even had a fuel filter...
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It's not really a filter, it is a screen. It passes much more crud than a proper "filter" I know that is just semantics, and the screen does perform the function of a filter, but it is much less sophisticated and efficient. I think they use one to prevent excessive back-pressure.
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It's not really a filter, it is a screen. It passes much more crud than a proper "filter" I know that is just semantics, and the screen does perform the function of a filter, but it is much less sophisticated and efficient. I think they use one to prevent excessive back-pressure.
The filter in the Suzuki C109 I came off of was a nightmare. Nothing passed through it. Clogged up all the time.
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Can you take a pic? I wasn't aware this bike even had a fuel filter...
If you follow the link for davo's fuel pump repair sticky you will see what I mean.
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Thanks ! Added to the winter "to do" list.
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I've cleaned mine a couple of times and found that dishwashing detergent and water to be the best to clean it rather than petroleum based solvents.
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I've cleaned mine a couple of times and found that dishwashing detergent and water to be the best to clean it rather than petroleum based solvents.
I will try that. Works for birds in oil spills. At least that what the commercials say.
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Update on old thread and linked here:
http://zggtr.org/index.php?topic=7625.msg315716#new
And thanks to Old Neil in Australia for buying the Suzuki item to check it out.
https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/gtr1000/viewtopic.php?p=81610#p81610
How-to: https://acrobat.adobe.com/link/review?uri=urn:aaid:scds:US:860e9725-c60d-4acd-8168-647188fbc84e
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Freddy is your adobe link supposed to be a pdf?
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Yes. If I click on the link it comes up ok.
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got it, thanks
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I think those COG folks have missed the point about the hidden pressure-side filter - except for C&Dagent. Can some kind soul who's a COG member repost this over there please. Honestly, I don't know why I bother with them. :doh:
https://forum.concours.org/index.php?threads/an-interesting-diagnosis.51638/page-2#post-664073
From elswehere on this forum:
Thanks to some keen observations by Roba and BundyBear of the Australian GTR forum it's now possible to put a part number to that hidden secondary high pressure filter as shown in the pic below.
(https://i.imgur.com/VMNaTXt.jpg)
Yes it's Suzuki part number 15610-14J00 item 7 below comes with regulator & O ring.
https://bluecitymotorcycles.com.au/oem/suzuki/search-part?brand=suzuki&year=2015&model=3618§ion=205353
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Good information. Thank you.
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There was a magnified pic of the high side filter posted on the other forum recently but the thread was deleted due to turning into war zone. A pity that good photo went out with the garbage.
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There was a magnified pic of the high side filter posted on the other forum recently but the thread was deleted due to turning into war zone. A pity that good photo went out with the garbage.
It's why many of us here are no longer over there. I have also dropped out of several Facebook groups due to a high proportion of aggressive ****holes. Luckily there is still this forum and there are still a few C10/C14 groups on FB where people behave like civilised human beings, or where they get policed heavily so that the ****holes never get a chance to start anything.
I assume that this "high-pressure" filter is a wire mesh rather than a fabric filter like the main one, and it can just be blown clean with a blast of air the other way?
I've looked for pics online and cannot find any decent ones for it.
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I also noticed a high profile, respected member "over there" was advising people to buy quantum fuel pumps. Why not? They are cheap. This guy even started a business reflashing the Concours 14 ECU. In other words, someone who should have known .
This is why not. https://www.zx-10r.net/threads/danger-read-quantum-fuel-pumps.355538/
You'll notice these pumps have had issues since @2014. Although some of them are ok, others do not have a functional check valve. This is dangerous. This isn't an isolated incident as threads like this are all over the internet.
Sadly, much of the thread has been cleaned up. Sanitized for your protection.
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Very interesting 409!
Boomer, hard to say what that hi pressure filter is made of from that now disappeared pic. All you could see was the cylinderical screen on inside. I know of one 1400GTR owner who cleaned it in an ultra sonic apparatus. It can be replaced with the Suzuki part shown in reply 12.
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In defense of the "other" forum there is a lot of knowledge folks. There seems to be more activity and I have received allot og good advice from both of these forums. Most of the problems come from just a few individuals. Unfortunately when good people leave things dont improve. I really enjoy learning as much about this machine ad I can and the knowledge seems so much better and more easily found than on FB groups.
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Very interesting 409!
Boomer, hard to say what that hi pressure filter is made of from that now disappeared pic. All you could see was the cylinderical screen on inside.
I did disassemble another pump I had to take this picture & posted it over there after seeing your previous post #12 Freddy. Not sure if it's the one you're referring to in that now disappeared thread.
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Well done Cliff - that's the one. Thanks muchly.
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Yup, looks like a cylindrical mesh "filter" which you should be able to blow clear with compressed air blown the opposite way to the flow of the gas.
Replacing the whole assembly at a cost of $200 is kind of ridiculous just for cleaning a mesh filter.
As for the other forum, I was an active member for many many years (COG 3242), and before that I was on here (when it WAS the COG forum) and before that I was active on the old email Listserver for many years. COG changed very much for the worse over the years but I stayed active and involved on the forum and avoided the politics mostly.
Then the powers that be decided that I had to pay $35 per year just to be allowed contribute to their forum. For me that was the straw that broke the camels back.
Being in the UK, the ONLY part of the COG membership that was of interest to me was the forum, and I am not paying to read ****hole-troll posts and outright insults.
So, I left and to be honest I don't miss it at all.
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Then the powers that be decided that I had to pay $35 per year just to be allowed contribute to their forum. For me that was the straw that broke the camels back.
Being in the UK, the ONLY part of the COG membership that was of interest to me was the forum, and I am not paying to read ****hole-troll posts and outright insults.
So, I left and to be honest I don't miss it at all.
All I was ever interested in was the forum stuff. I offered to kick in $10 to keep just forum access, and you would've thought I had asked them to pay me.
All this talk, I ordered a new sock to swap mine out one of these weekends.
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Right there with you Boomer.
I did order some socks and will clean the mesh filter during this winter's maintenance.
Thanks for the picture justcliff
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Sorry for the late post. I'm usually on the other Forum.
When I did my valve adjust a few years ago I took a look at the filter ( 20K miles ) and was surprised at what I saw. I bought a 3-pack fof filters from Quantum for about $15.
https://www.highflowfuel.com/quantum-fuel-pump-strainer-only-qty-3-for-kawasaki-concours-14-zg1400-2008-2020-replaces-49040-0024/ (https://www.highflowfuel.com/quantum-fuel-pump-strainer-only-qty-3-for-kawasaki-concours-14-zg1400-2008-2020-replaces-49040-0024/)
That's the new filter sock on the left :) I believe this fuel filter sock is used on various Kawasaki vehicles besides Kawasaki motorcycles.