I have been running Steve"s torque cams and jet kit for the last 2 years and it has been flawless. Easy starts, better acceleration, and great fuel mileage.

haha. you forgot one tiny variable in your equation...

C10 + 4 + [$10000]

A miner detail 

Just saw this thread......C14

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My C14 was $1800 more expensive than my C10. All the grumpy C10 riders think the C14 is for rich people, but that isn't the case!

Don't know what to tell ya. You either got screwed, or the C14 was a total POS or perhaps your C10 used gold for electrical wires. 

And we don't think you all are necessarily rich people, you all are just not too smart with your money. That generally precludes wealth accumulation. 

Don't know what to tell ya. You either got screwed, or the C14 was a total POS or perhaps your C10 used gold for electrical wires. 

And we don't think you all are necessarily rich people, you all are just not too smart with your money. That generally precludes wealth accumulation. 

yeah, look at what we pay to belong to this forum. 

Cheapest C14 here in the Netherlands (second hand) = around E 8000,-
Cheapest C10 = around E1000/1500,-

Most expensive C14 (second hand) = E 14/15000,-
Most expensive C10 = max 2500,-

That's a completely different class of things! 

  to the OP - I don't know if you've watched any of my video's, here's on particularly addressing your question - Steve

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LZ4WbgiihI

  to the OP - I don't know if you've watched any of my video's, here's on particularly addressing your question - Steve

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LZ4WbgiihI

I've watched some of them.  Thanks.

When the OP described what everything happened above 6k rpm, I wondered if this engine has been fitted with cams from a GPZ or ZZR?

When the OP described what everything happened above 6k rpm, I wondered if this engine has been fitted with cams from a GPZ or ZZR?

I bought it used.  The only mods were a fork brace and the fuel gauge mod.

When the OP described what everything happened above 6k rpm, I wondered if this engine has been fitted with cams from a GPZ or ZZR?

I dunnow... In stock form, the C-10 is pretty benign below 6k RPM. Above 6k RPM, best to hang on... regardless of cam.


Rick

I dunnow... In stock form, the C-10 is pretty benign below 6k RPM. Above 6k RPM, best to hang on... regardless of cam.


Rick

Looks like I may have the 'opportunity' to acquire some of Steve's cams. Waiting to hear back from the shop tomorrow.

Don't know what to tell ya. You either got screwed, or the C14 was a total POS or perhaps your C10 used gold for electrical wires. 

And we don't think you all are necessarily rich people, you all are just not too smart with your money. That generally precludes wealth accumulation. 

I sold my 2006 C10 that had a bunch of nice mods for $4000 (what I paid for it a year before). I paid $5800 for my 2008 C14 with a few mods. They both had the same mileage. But I feel pretty good about the whole deal, because the C14 feels like twice the bike that the C10 is. The C14 brakes are light-years better, the chassis doesn't turn into a pretzel when you start riding at higher speeds, the fueling is always perfect at every altitude, and the C14 pulls harder at 5,000 rpm than the C10 does at it's power peak. Oh yeah, it can't hydrolock, either.

The C10 was really the good at what is was designed for nearly thirty years ago. But technology has advanced a lot in those twenty nine years. Instead of feeling like I spent too much on the C14, I feel like I wasted $4000 on the C10, because I spent it on a thirty year-old bike.

You are right about me not being rich, but are wrong about not being smart with my money.

Listen to Steve. I have his torque cams, complete two minute mod, and cam sprocket, and my bike is a beast. Of course I have a few other minor adjustments but that is the meat in the sandwich.

Jim, are you running a 4 into one these days?

Jim, are you running a 4 into one these days?

  Obviously I'm not Jim, but i'm here and he's not (yet) so I can tell you yes, he's running the one he built with the ontario pipe a few years back. i've ridden his bike and it's the best running stock bore concours I've ever ridden -  period.

   I actually mimicked his pipe a few years back, but I moved the crossover  in front of the center stand, and had to reduce the pipe diameter to do so. I would consider it a failure. It knocked the torque out of the bike, in fact i lost about 5-6# around 6000.  It did show a very flat torque curve though, no dip like the stock pipe. Jims' pipe has the same table top flat torque curve, but makes great torque. It is the only pipe I've seen that actually works to make more power.  My 4-2-1 pipes allows my bike to retain the center stand, but really doesn't make and more power than stock. Jim's the man for c-10 exhaust work!  Steve

Jim, are you running a 4 into one these days?

Ok I'm here. Yes still running the 4 into 1. can't seem to give up that awesome sound coming from the single Delkevic muffler. Still wanting to get a new dyno run now that I have Steve's torque cams. Anxious to see what changes it made when combined with my pipe.