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Title: Secondary Butterflies
Post by: Pillow on December 15, 2019, 06:22:52 AM
Sadly discovered they are missing on my 07/08  :'(

Really hoping someone has kept them after removing them.  eBay is expensive, OEM pant wettingly so.

Help.  Brit in need of help .  :grouphug:
Title: Re: Secondary Butterflies
Post by: lather on December 15, 2019, 06:56:34 AM
I will look for mine when I get home this afternoon. I should be able to find them but I did strip one of the screws.
Title: Re: Secondary Butterflies
Post by: Pillow on December 15, 2019, 07:18:05 AM
I will look for mine when I get home this afternoon. I should be able to find them but I did strip one of the screws.

That's great.  No issues with the screws, I'm sure that will be easy to sort.

Thank you.
Title: Re: Secondary Butterflies
Post by: lather on December 15, 2019, 11:19:39 AM
That's great.  No issues with the screws, I'm sure that will be easy to sort.

Thank you.
Damn! Sorry Pillow, just fiished searching everywhere I can think of and came up empty.
Title: Re: Secondary Butterflies
Post by: Pillow on December 15, 2019, 01:25:30 PM
Ah nuts  :(  Thanks for looking.
Title: Re: Secondary Butterflies
Post by: MAN OF BLUES on December 15, 2019, 01:55:10 PM
HERE.... GRAB THEM FAST....

https://www.ebay.com/i/272353276870?chn=ps&norover=1&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-117182-37290-0&mkcid=2&itemid=272353276870&targetid=475515225101&device=c&mktype=pla&googleloc=9015276&poi=&campaignid=6469981122&mkgroupid=79220336802&rlsatarget=pla-475515225101&abcId=1141176&merchantid=131375965&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIkY-l-sO45gIVAdbACh2STwDjEAQYByABEgKfs_D_BwE (https://www.ebay.com/i/272353276870?chn=ps&norover=1&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-117182-37290-0&mkcid=2&itemid=272353276870&targetid=475515225101&device=c&mktype=pla&googleloc=9015276&poi=&campaignid=6469981122&mkgroupid=79220336802&rlsatarget=pla-475515225101&abcId=1141176&merchantid=131375965&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIkY-l-sO45gIVAdbACh2STwDjEAQYByABEgKfs_D_BwE)

Title: Re: Secondary Butterflies
Post by: Pillow on December 15, 2019, 01:58:22 PM
HERE.... GRAB THEM FAST....


Lamentably, can't do. It's $80 shipping and will probably be another 30-50 once customs get hold of it.
Title: Re: Secondary Butterflies
Post by: MAN OF BLUES on December 15, 2019, 02:01:59 PM
MORE

https://www.ebay.com/i/312256117016?rt=nc&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIM.MBE%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D20160908110712%26meid%3D49c2fb83752c437d90754154916a9a15%26pid%3D100677%26rk%3D10%26rkt%3D30%26sd%3D312684677804%26itm%3D312256117016%26pmt%3D0%26noa%3D1%26pg%3D2386202 (https://www.ebay.com/i/312256117016?rt=nc&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIM.MBE%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D20160908110712%26meid%3D49c2fb83752c437d90754154916a9a15%26pid%3D100677%26rk%3D10%26rkt%3D30%26sd%3D312684677804%26itm%3D312256117016%26pmt%3D0%26noa%3D1%26pg%3D2386202)

https://www.ebay.com/i/312684677804?chn=ps&norover=1&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-117182-37290-0&mkcid=2&itemid=312684677804&targetid=596465894148&device=c&mktype=pla&googleloc=9015276&poi=&campaignid=6470719340&mkgroupid=77931583832&rlsatarget=pla-596465894148&abcId=1140476&merchantid=131375965&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIkY-l-sO45gIVAdbACh2STwDjEAQYCyABEgI4y_D_BwE (https://www.ebay.com/i/312684677804?chn=ps&norover=1&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-117182-37290-0&mkcid=2&itemid=312684677804&targetid=596465894148&device=c&mktype=pla&googleloc=9015276&poi=&campaignid=6470719340&mkgroupid=77931583832&rlsatarget=pla-596465894148&abcId=1140476&merchantid=131375965&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIkY-l-sO45gIVAdbACh2STwDjEAQYCyABEgI4y_D_BwE)

THESE ARE COMPLETE BODIES... YOU WON'T FIND PLATES THIS CHEAP/
Title: Re: Secondary Butterflies
Post by: Pillow on December 15, 2019, 02:05:41 PM
Is the shipping as expensive at your end?  If not, could I pay you to buy them, then you just send me the valves and screws?
Title: Re: Secondary Butterflies
Post by: Pillow on December 15, 2019, 02:19:50 PM
Man, these are soooooo much cheaper to buy from eBay in America than over here in Europe.
Title: Re: Secondary Butterflies
Post by: lather on December 16, 2019, 07:19:34 AM
Hey, I just realized I have a set of secondaries in my blown 09 motor. If I recall correctly I need a special phillips screwdriver to avoid stripping the screw heads. Last time I did this was ten years ago. Can someone remind me or is there a thread?

OK I found Brian's thread: JIS #2, now to find the tool in my cluttered shop!
Title: Re: Secondary Butterflies
Post by: lather on December 16, 2019, 08:29:26 AM
Pillow, I am ready to pull the flys from my 09 if you want them. PM your address.
Title: Re: Secondary Butterflies
Post by: Pillow on December 16, 2019, 09:43:56 AM
PM sent Lather.

Thank you ever so much.  I really appreciate this.  Sincerely.
Title: Re: Secondary Butterflies
Post by: MAN OF BLUES on December 16, 2019, 10:10:55 AM
Pillow, I am ready to pull the flys from my 09 if you want them. PM your address.

yes, make sure to use the correct screw driver, also use a soldering iron, prior to each screws removal, insert it into the cross slot of the screw, and apply generous heat to the screw, then immediately insert the screwdriver, and remove.. or even pre heat the screw driver tip with a propane torch, and insert it to the slot, and apply heat that way... it softens the locking agent on the screws, and helps greatly for removing them...

Sorry Pillow, I used to buy and ship stuff, but I got out of that years ago.. I would have picked them up, and removed the flies, and just sent those... but I can't do that any more, as I got stiffed too many times. Again, sorry, but my out of pocket time and money is limited.
A while back I found a place in the U.K. that manufactured Oberon aftermarket machined aluminum billet clutch slave cylinders, and they actually sold / listed replacement secondary butterfly plates.. but I can't find the link any more...
The prices on flies if you could find them, is pretty high....
https://store.schnitzracing.com/rcc-stainless-steel-throttle-blades-suzuki-gsx1300r-hayabusa-99-07/

that's just for reference, and likely won't fit the Concours, niether will the ZX1400 plates, as those bodies have a larger bore.. sorry.
Title: Re: Secondary Butterflies
Post by: connie_rider on December 16, 2019, 10:19:14 AM
Best of luck Pillow.
I think you/Lather have a good plan.

Have question's though; I know there is a ZG-1400 club on your side of the Pond.
 I think the guy that leads it is in Belgium. Goes by the name of "Magic".
 I rode with them when we made our trip "Over the Pond", and can contact someone if you want to possibly ride with them?

Are you aware of the club?
Also, where are you located?

Ride safe, Ted
Title: Re: Secondary Butterflies
Post by: lather on December 16, 2019, 10:24:14 AM
Thanks for the heating tip MOB, will use my soldering iron. Pillow, I am planning to send USPS Priority Mail unless you know a less expensive way.
Title: Re: Secondary Butterflies
Post by: Pillow on December 16, 2019, 10:24:43 AM
Best of luck Pillow.
I think you/Lather have a good plan.

Have question's though; I know there is a ZG-1400 club on your side of the Pond.
 I think the guy that leads it is in Belgium. Goes by the name of "Magic".
 I rode with them when we made our trip "Over the Pond", and can contact someone if you want to possibly ride with them?

Are you aware of the club?
Also, where are you located?

Ride safe, Ted

I'm in Surrey, England.  Just south of London.  I've been on the forum a few times, but not as a regular. 

Not much of a group rider I'm afraid.  Been on a few ride outs- enjoyed it, but not my cup of tea.
Title: Re: Secondary Butterflies
Post by: Pillow on December 16, 2019, 10:26:28 AM
Pillow, I am planning to send USPS Priority Mail unless you know a less expensive way.

Do you know what it will cost?  I don't know much about this sort of thing, so if it's a convenient way of sending for you, let's do it that way.
Title: Re: Secondary Butterflies
Post by: connie_rider on December 16, 2019, 10:31:36 AM
I'm in Surrey, England.  Just south of London.  I've been on the forum a few times, but not as a regular. 

Not much of a group rider I'm afraid.  Been on a few ride outs- enjoyed it, but not my cup of tea.

Ok, I understand.
Just remembered, you may know Boomer?
Also from the UK.

The main reason I mentioned them I;s they would know where to get ZG-1400 parts as it is a ZG-1400 only group.

Ride safe, Ted
Title: Re: Secondary Butterflies
Post by: MAN OF BLUES on December 16, 2019, 10:36:23 AM
Boomer lives there also...
Title: Re: Secondary Butterflies
Post by: Pillow on December 16, 2019, 10:37:25 AM
Ok, I understand.
Just remembered, you may know Boomer?
Also from the UK.

The main reason I mentioned them I;s they would know where to get ZG-1400 parts as it is a ZG-1400 only group.

Ride safe, Ted

Think I have it sorted by a kind chap who's taking them off a blown motor.  Bloody relieved, as Kawasaki weren't helpful.  Doubly relieved, as my Shouldabeen flash wasn't the revelation I was led to believe it would be.  Now I can be blown away  :D
Title: Re: Secondary Butterflies
Post by: Pillow on December 16, 2019, 10:39:16 AM
Boomer lives there also...

I'm always keen to meet up with a fellow biker, for a cuppa and a chat. 
Title: Re: Secondary Butterflies
Post by: MAN OF BLUES on December 16, 2019, 11:53:56 AM
Do you know what it will cost?  I don't know much about this sort of thing, so if it's a convenient way of sending for you, let's do it that way.

probably the cheapest cost, is the USPS priority DVD/CD box carrier, it's about $8 for the box/envelope, and will run maybe $35 US to ship to Surrey... maybe more, I can't find all the info online...

FedEx envelope to you would run about $135...

probably the easist and least cost, would be to tape them all inside a Christmas Card, and send it priority.. which will run about $30 USD

here's a post from Boomer, always glad to hook someone up ;
http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?topic=24345.msg303803#msg303803 (http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?topic=24345.msg303803#msg303803)

Title: Re: Secondary Butterflies
Post by: lather on December 16, 2019, 12:44:10 PM
Do you know what it will cost?  I don't know much about this sort of thing, so if it's a convenient way of sending for you, let's do it that way.
I always use USPS priority mail.a small flat rate box is $7.95 in the states. I will look up cost to I when I get home
. I order medicine from UK cones on same size box and they so for free
 .
Title: Re: Secondary Butterflies
Post by: Pillow on December 16, 2019, 01:26:34 PM
If it's $50 or so, that's fine.  Just let me know how much you'd like and I'll send you the funds the same day.
Title: Re: Secondary Butterflies
Post by: Pillow on December 16, 2019, 01:28:05 PM
here's a post from Boomer, always glad to hook someone up ;
http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?topic=24345.msg303803#msg303803 (http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?topic=24345.msg303803#msg303803)

Hook up?  Is this a swipe right thing?  Shhh, my wife doesn't know about my latent homosexuality  ;D
Title: Re: Secondary Butterflies
Post by: Boomer on December 16, 2019, 02:08:21 PM
Jeez, Rich the pimp. Who'd a thunk it  :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:

I have lots of spares for the GTR1000, but very little for the 1400GTR.
I'm in Essex and always up for a chat, but also prefer solo rides and romantic walks on the beach  :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :deadhorse: :rotflmao:
Title: Re: Secondary Butterflies
Post by: MAN OF BLUES on December 16, 2019, 02:33:46 PM
Jeez, Rich the pimp. Who'd a thunk it  :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:

I have lots of spares for the GTR1000, but very little for the 1400GTR.
I'm in Essex and always up for a chat, but also prefer solo rides and romantic walks on the beach  :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :deadhorse: :rotflmao:

Thank goodness there is a large body of water, restricting access... I'm very happy thank you all, living with my wife, and sipping a beer... and watching Donky porn.....
 :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :deadhorse: :deadhorse:
Title: Re: Secondary Butterflies
Post by: jimmymac on December 17, 2019, 05:54:53 AM
Good chit mang! ;D
Title: Re: Secondary Butterflies
Post by: VirginiaJim on December 17, 2019, 07:22:08 AM
Jeez, Rich the pimp. Who'd a thunk it  :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:

I have lots of spares for the GTR1000, but very little for the 1400GTR.
I'm in Essex and always up for a chat, but also prefer solo rides and romantic walks on the beach  :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :deadhorse: :rotflmao:


I'll remember that this coming May..
Title: Re: Secondary Butterflies
Post by: lather on December 17, 2019, 07:47:45 AM
Back to reality for a moment?

I am not having much luck removing fly screws. I have two out and have buggered two. Probem is my JIS #2 has a short shaft. Easy boys! I can remove the screws I can get a straight shot at but the others the point is angled due to clearance issue between the screwdriver handle and the frame. I am thinking I will need to remove the throttlebody unless anyone has a solution.
Title: Re: Secondary Butterflies
Post by: lather on December 17, 2019, 06:14:02 PM
Pay attention you perverts: I removed the TB and got two flies out. No problem if you have a straight shot at the screws with your JIS #2. Two screws left with buggered heads. Going to   TB on my drill press and drill the heads off.
Title: Re: Secondary Butterflies
Post by: MAN OF BLUES on December 17, 2019, 06:48:51 PM
bummer....
I kinda warned ya.

good luck....
 and by the way, after you are done, pull the injectors, and save them, along with the other "parts", then toss the rest..
Title: Re: Secondary Butterflies
Post by: lather on December 18, 2019, 04:38:14 PM
Drilled the heads of the last two screws with no problem :banana :banana
Title: Re: Secondary Butterflies
Post by: MAN OF BLUES on December 19, 2019, 07:05:19 PM
so, with all the work, and cost... are you sending them for "free", just asking, because the e-bay one I posted, was Local... and I would have had to get off my fat butt, drive, and pick them up, remove the flys, and ship them.. all prior to any $.

SEMPER FI.

(I know I should have just picked it up, and sent them.. but man, I've been burned too many times)
Title: Re: Secondary Butterflies
Post by: lather on December 19, 2019, 09:00:53 PM
so, with all the work, and cost... are you sending them for "free", just asking, because the e-bay one I posted, was Local... and I would have had to get off my fat butt, drive, and pick them up, remove the flys, and ship them.. all prior to any $.

SEMPER FI.

(I know I should have just picked it up, and sent them.. but man, I've been burned too many times)
Asked Pillow for $36.75, cost of USPS Priority International. He sent me $40 paypal :D  :banana :banana :banana
Title: Re: Secondary Butterflies
Post by: VirginiaJim on December 20, 2019, 05:12:31 AM
Thanks for going the extra mile!
Title: Re: Secondary Butterflies
Post by: Pillow on December 20, 2019, 06:07:35 AM
Asked Pillow for $36.75, cost of USPS Priority International. He sent me $40 paypal :D  :banana :banana :banana

Wanted to cover any packaging cost, etc.  Happy to give you something for your trouble, or to make a donation to a charity of your choice.

I do appreciate the time and effort you've put into this.