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The C-14, aka Kawasaki Concours-14, the new one :) => Accessories and modifications - C14/GTR 1400 => Topic started by: martin_14 on October 30, 2014, 09:48:47 AM
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can anybody point me to a picture or something to let me know what those 2 little bulbs in the front (between the headlights) look like? The manual says 12V 5W, and I found the part in a microfiche but I can't make out what they look like :-\
Also, if somebody has a comment about different tints for the light they give. I'm trying to match them with the new H4 that I mounted, which are whiter, without being blueish.
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Small headlight Bulb 12V/5W - 92069-1016
City lights are either a 2825 (5w) or a 2886 (6w)
City lights (LED, inverted cone, white) 194 or 168
Can't vouch for the info, though. Should get you close.
http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?topic=1650.0 (http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?topic=1650.0)
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thanks Jim, that's exactly what I was looking for.
Now I found that the H4 headlights I have are 3350 K, so that's what I'm aiming for with the city lights. So far I found only 4000 K...
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Let me know how it works out. I had both high beams burn out a couple days apart, and replaced them with some nice white bulbs. Now my city lights look yellow. ::)
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well, found what I need, me thinks. The ones with 4000K are Osram, and Philips offers (unsurprisingly) a set that matches the X-trem Vision, with 3400K. So I went for those. I didn't take pictures before and after the swap of the head lamps, which is a pity, but I'll try with the city lights if I can.
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Excellent!
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sooo... next question ;D
how do I get to those little fellas there at the nose of the bike? from underneath? I'd look it up in the manual but I'm at work... :-[
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I believe that you get to them by going under the nose of the fairing where the horn is located.
Remove upper inner fairing according to the manual...that seems a bit extreme though. I seem to recall that you can get to them by removing the black panels underneath the nose of the bike where the horn is located..checking on that.
Underneath the nose there is a panel held on with 4 plastic rivets. Remove those rivets (push in the center and then remove the rivets and panel). You should be able to get access from there.
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well, found what I need, me thinks. The ones with 4000K are Osram, and Philips offers (unsurprisingly) a set that matches the X-trem Vision, with 3400K. So I went for those. I didn't take pictures before and after the swap of the head lamps, which is a pity, but I'll try with the city lights if I can.
Do you have a link to the bulbs that you went with Martin?
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Do you have a link to the bulbs that you went with Martin?
this is the link to the eBay item I bought, which is in the German site: http://www.ebay.de/itm/221481001420 (http://www.ebay.de/itm/221481001420)
And I also found them for you guys in Amazon.com, but they cost a bit more over there: http://www.amazon.com/Philips-Blue-Vision-Ultra-Pair/dp/B001B4TJVA/ref=sr_1_1?s=automotive&ie=UTF8&qid=1414756998&sr=1-1&keywords=Philips+3400k (http://www.amazon.com/Philips-Blue-Vision-Ultra-Pair/dp/B001B4TJVA/ref=sr_1_1?s=automotive&ie=UTF8&qid=1414756998&sr=1-1&keywords=Philips+3400k)
In Amazon Germany they also cost about 6€ (8 USD).
I should mention that my interest was twofold: increase the light output and get white lights. The H4 X-trem Vision that I got accomplish both without being bluish, which I don't like. These city lights should match the headlights now...
@Jim: thanks. At work I don't have the manual at hand, but I have something else... the bike ;D So I went out and had a look and it looks like you're right and once you get the 4 rivets out, the little bulbs should be easily reachable.
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I'm always right, Martin, unless I'm wrong.
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my city lights are amber 168 i think , just for something different, and no more headlight matching for the fancy light guys :)
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my city lights are amber 168 i think , just for something different, and no more headlight matching for the fancy light guys :)
Yep. Mine are amber/yellow, which makes far more sense from a "be seen" standpoint. I just need some that are much, much brighter.
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I switched to these:
http://www.vleds.com/shop-bulb-numbers/194-168-158-led/6-6k.html (http://www.vleds.com/shop-bulb-numbers/194-168-158-led/6-6k.html)
OEM on the left. One pic in shade and the other in direct sunlight.
Also replace dome lights in my Mustang with these, huge difference.
http://www.vleds.com/shop-bulb-numbers/194-168-158-led/5k-4-hpf.html (http://www.vleds.com/shop-bulb-numbers/194-168-158-led/5k-4-hpf.html)
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I switched to these:
http://www.vleds.com/shop-bulb-numbers/194-168-158-led/6-6k.html (http://www.vleds.com/shop-bulb-numbers/194-168-158-led/6-6k.html)
OEM on the left. One pic in shade and the other in direct sunlight.
Bingo! Thanks! I think this is what I have been waiting for!!! And amber!!!
http://www.vleds.com/shop-bulb-numbers/194-168-158-led/6-a.html (http://www.vleds.com/shop-bulb-numbers/194-168-158-led/6-a.html) ordering now (15% off everything today, too)
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Max, you might check here.... http://www.autolumination.com/194.htm (http://www.autolumination.com/194.htm)
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Max, you might check here.... http://www.autolumination.com/194.htm (http://www.autolumination.com/194.htm)
Don't be giving me choices or anything, or I will end up ordering nothing!! Some of those look like the not-as-bright-as-old-incandescent ones I have tried in the past... claiming stuff like 7 Watts and 11 Watts (no freaking way).
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I switched to these:
http://www.vleds.com/shop-bulb-numbers/194-168-158-led/6-6k.html (http://www.vleds.com/shop-bulb-numbers/194-168-158-led/6-6k.html)
OEM on the left. One pic in shade and the other in direct sunlight.
Are these the same thing?
http://www.amazon.com/5630-Interior-Dome-Light-Bulb/dp/B00GXO3IUG/ref=sr_1_fkmr3_2?s=automotive&ie=UTF8&qid=1414929561&sr=1-2-fkmr3&keywords=194+6+W+6K+N (http://www.amazon.com/5630-Interior-Dome-Light-Bulb/dp/B00GXO3IUG/ref=sr_1_fkmr3_2?s=automotive&ie=UTF8&qid=1414929561&sr=1-2-fkmr3&keywords=194+6+W+6K+N)
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Are these the same thing?
http://www.amazon.com/5630-Interior-Dome-Light-Bulb/dp/B00GXO3IUG/ref=sr_1_fkmr3_2?s=automotive&ie=UTF8&qid=1414929561&sr=1-2-fkmr3&keywords=194+6+W+6K+N (http://www.amazon.com/5630-Interior-Dome-Light-Bulb/dp/B00GXO3IUG/ref=sr_1_fkmr3_2?s=automotive&ie=UTF8&qid=1414929561&sr=1-2-fkmr3&keywords=194+6+W+6K+N)
They look similar, but those are 6 LED instead of 5 and also have different machining.
I bet you can go on AliExpress and find both on there, eventually. It is common for many vendors to source the same China parts. Unfortunately, there are also lots of clones of parts that look the same but are not the same when it comes to what counts.
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anyway, here's a couple of pictures...
first one shows the old/original bulb on the city light on the left, and the new Philips on the right. The second picture shows the headlights (with both H4s being Philips X-treme Vision). The new 5w bulbs do match the K rating, as promised by the vendor. In the 3rd and 4th pictures you can see what I've got for the city lights. I guess the blue coating on the Philips 5w bulb is because it's an otherwise ordinary filament and gas, which would generate a warm light if it wasn't for the coating.
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After I installed a 4300K HID kit, I grabbed a set of these to match:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/2x-T10-White-Cree-R5-3W-LED-Reverse-Backup-Light-Bulbs-168-W5W-921-912-906-/111207584209?hash=item19e47d11d1 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/2x-T10-White-Cree-R5-3W-LED-Reverse-Backup-Light-Bulbs-168-W5W-921-912-906-/111207584209?hash=item19e47d11d1)
They're a pretty close match to the HIDs temperature wise (I bought them a while ago, so not positive this auction is for the exact same color temperature).
There was plenty of room for the bulb, they're more directional, and MUCH brighter than the stock bulbs.
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After I installed a 4300K HID kit, I grabbed a set of these to match:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/2x-T10-White-Cree-R5-3W-LED-Reverse-Backup-Light-Bulbs-168-W5W-921-912-906-/111207584209?hash=item19e47d11d1 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/2x-T10-White-Cree-R5-3W-LED-Reverse-Backup-Light-Bulbs-168-W5W-921-912-906-/111207584209?hash=item19e47d11d1)
They're a pretty close match to the HIDs temperature wise (I bought them a while ago, so not positive this auction is for the exact same color temperature).
There was plenty of room for the bulb, they're more directional, and MUCH brighter than the stock bulbs.
pics of the city lights? pretty please?
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for those who have switched to LED, how long have you been using those bulbs on your bike (or car)?
i've had trouble finding LEDs that lasts, especially when used in smaller housing or next to the headlight such as the city lights on the C14.
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Bingo! Thanks! I think this is what I have been waiting for!!! And amber!!!
http://www.vleds.com/shop-bulb-numbers/194-168-158-led/6-a.html (http://www.vleds.com/shop-bulb-numbers/194-168-158-led/6-a.html) ordering now (15% off everything today, too)
They arrived a few days ago and I installed them last night. Of course, I wanted a good comparison, so I replaced only the left city light (right in the photo). You can see the results in the attached photo. The amber LED from VLEDS is just barely as bright as the incandescent it replaces, and is a bit deeper amber color. So I just spent $20 and did not give me a brighter light. The bulb will likely last longer, and it has a nicer color, and it pulls less power- but none of those were my objective.
The good news is this is the very first LED bulb I have seen that is even close to the same light output as the incandescent it is designed to replace. And it has a good, even light output.
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pics of the city lights? pretty please?
Here's a side by side comparison of the factory city light (I assume it's the original--I'm the second owner) and the newer LED I'm now using
(My phone camera makes the color temp look blue, but they are pure white, 4300K)
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I've always wondered what the city lights are for.
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I've always wondered what the city lights are for.
It seems like nobody really knows for sure. They are likely primarily used as parking lamps with the headlights off and running lights with the headlights on (note, they do come on before the engine is started on all models).... but so many markets require headlights on all the time it seems generally pointless when the engine is running (they are so small and generally not very visible). Probably for decoration is another reason they exist.
My belief is they should be changed to amber (which is what I did), then they actually can help to make the front look a little more more conspicuous and offer the desirable "triangle front" effect. Safety first!
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It seems like nobody really knows for sure. They are likely primarily used as parking lamps with the headlights off and running lights with the headlights on (note, they do come on before the engine is started on all models).... but so many markets require headlights on all the time it seems generally pointless when the engine is running (they are so small and generally not very visible). Probably for decoration is another reason they exist.
My belief is they should be changed to amber (which is what I did), then they actually can help to make the front look a little more more conspicuous and offer the desirable "triangle front" effect. Safety first!
I agree, but who leaves their bike on and unlocked when parked? I just wonder what Kawasaki was thinking when they added these lights. It would make more sense if there was a locked, rest of the bike off, but city lights only on position for KIPASS.
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I've always wondered what the city lights are for.
My guess would be for city use. It's a bonus they work in the country.
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I agree, but who leaves their bike on and unlocked when parked? I just wonder what Kawasaki was thinking when they added these lights. It would make more sense if there was a locked, rest of the bike off, but city lights only on position for KIPASS.
It might have something to do with certain other countries' regulations and how it is wired and used there. I don't know.
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Quote from: maxtog on November 01, 2014, 01:15:04 pm
Bingo! Thanks! I think this is what I have been waiting for!!! And amber!!!
http://www.vleds.com/shop-bulb-numbers/194-168-158-led/6-a.html (http://www.vleds.com/shop-bulb-numbers/194-168-158-led/6-a.html) ordering now (15% off everything today, too)
Quote from: maxtog on November 01, 2014, 01:15:04 pm
[...]The good news is this is the very first LED bulb I have seen that is even close to the same light output as the incandescent it is designed to replace. And it has a good, even light output.
Looks like they have a newer version now too: http://www.vleds.com/shop-bulb-numbers/194-168-158-led/6-hv.html (http://www.vleds.com/shop-bulb-numbers/194-168-158-led/6-hv.html) which are $5 more and they claim are even brighter.
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I switched to these:
http://www.vleds.com/shop-bulb-numbers/194-168-158-led/6-6k.html (http://www.vleds.com/shop-bulb-numbers/194-168-158-led/6-6k.html)
OEM on the left. One pic in shade and the other in direct sunlight.
Also replace dome lights in my Mustang with these, huge difference.
http://www.vleds.com/shop-bulb-numbers/194-168-158-led/5k-4-hpf.html (http://www.vleds.com/shop-bulb-numbers/194-168-158-led/5k-4-hpf.html)
How long have they lasted, or are the still burning?
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After I installed a 4300K HID kit, I grabbed a set of these to match:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/2x-T10-White-Cree-R5-3W-LED-Reverse-Backup-Light-Bulbs-168-W5W-921-912-906-/111207584209?hash=item19e47d11d1 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/2x-T10-White-Cree-R5-3W-LED-Reverse-Backup-Light-Bulbs-168-W5W-921-912-906-/111207584209?hash=item19e47d11d1)
They're a pretty close match to the HIDs temperature wise (I bought them a while ago, so not positive this auction is for the exact same color temperature).
There was plenty of room for the bulb, they're more directional, and MUCH brighter than the stock bulbs.
Thanks, giving these a try.
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These are the brightest city lights on the market. I received them with
my SOCALMOTO HID system. They are extremely bright and are good
quality!
http://www.jpcycles.com/product/207-466 (http://www.jpcycles.com/product/207-466)
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Here is a pic of my vleds hi viz led city lights
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Did you intend to purchase yellow city lights? if not, the city lights I posted
are bright white
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Here is a pic of my vleds hi viz led city lights
Wow- those appear to be MUCH brighter than the ones I bought from VLED's. Of course, it is really not possible to know how bright something is in a photo- only how bright it is compared to something else in a photo.
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Wow- those appear to be MUCH brighter than the ones I bought from VLED's. Of course, it is really not possible to know how bright something is in a photo- only how bright it is compared to something else in a photo.
the are bright but not extremely and they are the newer version from vleds,they were on back order since April 24 I just got them monday.here is another pic of the lights on before I start the bike.
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the are bright but not extremely and they are the newer version from vleds,they were on back order since April 24 I just got them monday.here is another pic of the lights on before I start the bike.
I can't believe how much brighter they seem. I really wish you had a photo of one old and one new in the bike at the same time... that would tell me for sure.
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I can't believe how much brighter they seem.
Me neither. Bought mine not long ago, and are NOTHING like that, especially the color. They're a washed-out amber color, almost white. It'd be nice if Bigfraid posted the exact P/N (and a photo of the bulb, if possible), or the link to the bulb, so people know what to order. I ordered some normal true amber bulbs from superbrightLEDs, and one crapped out after one ride. Bought 3, so the spare is in place now. If another craps out, will just put a pair of incandescent amber ones and call it a day.
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Here is the link to the leds I bought,when I get a chance I will take another pick with one led and another side with factory light.
http://www.vleds.com/shop-bulb-numbers/194-168-158-led/6-hv.html (http://www.vleds.com/shop-bulb-numbers/194-168-158-led/6-hv.html)
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when I get a chance I will take another pick with one led and another side with factory light.
That would be really great! :finger_fing11:
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Here is the other pics sorry it took so long.
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Here is the other pics sorry it took so long.
here is 2 more hope this helps out.
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sooo... next question ;D
how do I get to those little fellas there at the nose of the bike? from underneath? I'd look it up in the manual but I'm at work... :-[
Martin, don't know if this was answered for you but there is a black panel under your front fairing held in by 4 Nylon Rivets. Pop those rivets and pull that panel out and then reach up and pull the City Lights out...the are held in with tension. It's actually pretty easy to do.
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I was shocked how much brighter the LED city lights are, and brings my bike out of the yellowish lantern horse and carriage days and into today.
Many thanks for the good folks on this forum ;D
(http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/411944/415622.jpg)
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here is 2 more hope this helps out.
Very much so. There is no question that THOSE yellow LED's are every bit as bright as stock white incandescent, even a little brighter. Very impressive and much better than the VLED's I purchased not long ago. Very nice upgrade. Thanks
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Very much so. There is no question that THOSE yellow LED's are every bit as bright as stock white incandescent, even a little brighter. Very impressive and much better than the VLED's I purchased not long ago. Very nice upgrade. Thanks
your welcome.have a great day.
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They arrived a few days ago and I installed them last night. Of course, I wanted a good comparison, so I replaced only the left city light (right in the photo). You can see the results in the attached photo. The amber LED from VLEDS is just barely as bright as the incandescent it replaces, and is a bit deeper amber color. So I just spent $20 and did not give me a brighter light. The bulb will likely last longer, and it has a nicer color, and it pulls less power- but none of those were my objective.
And now I have replaced the older VLED brand, above, with "JDM Astar" brand amber LED bulbs and I am finally satisfied (extremely). The JDM bulbs have 24 3014 SMD (3mm x1.4mm surface mount device) LED chips , with 6 of them facing forward and 18 around the rim. My estimate it is that it is almost twice as bright as incandescent or VLED brand and the light pattern is 100% as good as incandescent (in the "city lights" application). And the icing on the cake is that they were only $13 for the pair! Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B018GYMOZ0 (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B018GYMOZ0) Lots of photos to follow...
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Lots of photos to follow...
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Thanks Max! I just placed an order with Amazon for these.
So these just plug right in?
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Just put two sets of these JDM Astars in my shopping cart. Thanks for the tip; good thread resurrection.
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Thanks Max! I just placed an order with Amazon for these.
So these just plug right in?
Yep. Took all of 5 minutes to pop off the chin and put them in. Next up, the turn signals/running lights... rears were done in 2 minutes, fronts will take a loooong time. Working on it right now (pulled the bike into the 93 degree garage). More info coming....
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Just put two sets of these JDM Astars in my shopping cart.
You should only need one set, unless you have two Concourses (Concoursi?) ("City lights" are only two bulbs)
Thanks for the tip; good thread resurrection
Love that Thriller reference!
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I bought two sets because some of the amazon reviews spoke of them burning out quickly, so I wanted some spares. Of course you never know how folks are using them. C14 city lights should be a low stress environment for these bulbs.
Are you using these same bulbs for the blinkers/running lights? Yes, the carports are HOT today. I changed fluids at 10pm the other night and it wasn't so bad.
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I bought two sets because some of the amazon reviews spoke of them burning out quickly, so I wanted some spares. Of course you never know how folks are using them. C14 city lights should be a low stress environment for these bulbs.
I am not sure which is more wear- just being on, or blinking. They don't blink, but I don't think blinking bothers LED bulbs like it does incandescent. I hope they last.
Are you using these same bulbs for the blinkers/running lights?
They are not the same bulb, but same brand, yes. And I just finished. WOW, again. That review should be up by tomorrow night.
Yes, the carports are HOT today. I changed fluids at 10pm the other night and it wasn't so bad.
Even with a fan going, three hours in that garage (and after mowing the lawn) was about all I could stand.
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I am not sure which is more wear- just being on, or blinking. They don't blink, but I don't think blinking bothers LED bulbs like it does incandescent. I hope they last.
They are not the same bulb, but same brand, yes. And I just finished. WOW, again. That review should be up by tomorrow night.
Did you have an issue with hyper flashing and did you have to use a load resistor to stop it?
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Did you have an issue with hyper flashing and did you have to use a load resistor to stop it?
Did you say hot flashes, why yes I do. Lol!
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Did you say hot flashes, why yes I do. Lol!
I'm thinking that a load resistor won't help in this case. ;)
(http://www.pandemic-usa.com/v/vspfiles/assets/images/load%20resistor%20installation.jpg)
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Did you say hot flashes, why yes I do. Lol!
This might help for hot bulbs...
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You guys do realize that you can replace the city lights with incandescent amber bulbs...which is what I did for under $10.
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You guys do realize that you can replace the city lights with incandescent amber bulbs...which is what I did for under $10.
Of course we do but what fun is that? Besides, the cool LEDs only cost $13/pair.
(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/71ubLKIaLpL._SL1500_.jpg)
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Did you have an issue with hyper flashing and did you have to use a load resistor to stop it?
City lights don't flash. LED turn signals require either load resistors or a replacement flasher unit (better solution)
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You guys do realize that you can replace the city lights with incandescent amber bulbs...which is what I did for under $10.
Of course. I have been doing that for years. But they are dim. These new ones are twice a bright, so they actually lend more functionality.
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City lights don't flash. LED turn signals require either load resistors or a replacement flasher unit (better solution)
We need more information on this Max. What type of flasher is the better option and where is the flasher located on the bike.
Thanks in advance.
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We need more information on this Max. What type of flasher is the better option and where is the flasher located on the bike.
Thanks in advance.
Some info here... http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?topic=17998.msg220613#msg220613 (http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?topic=17998.msg220613#msg220613)... Start at the bottom of the first page.
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City lights don't flash. LED turn signals require either load resistors or a replacement flasher unit (better solution)
Yes Max, I've been riding a C14 for a while now and I know that the city lights don't flash. You were the one talking about turn signals and flashing, that's why I asked about the load resistor.
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Of course we do but what fun is that? Besides, the cool LEDs only cost $13/pair.
(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/71ubLKIaLpL._SL1500_.jpg)
Are these a direct replacement for the city lights? And where do you buy them?
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I think maxtog gave a link a few posts back. Amazon is 12.98 a pair with Prime shipping. I placed my order this morning and for a pair of Philips +130s for the main.
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Are these a direct replacement for the city lights? And where do you buy them?
Should be plug and play. I ordered some and they'll be here tomorrow.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B018GYMOZ0 (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B018GYMOZ0)
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Should be plug and play. I ordered some and they'll be here tomorrow.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B018GYMOZ0 (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B018GYMOZ0)
I installed these yesterday and they are indeed plug and play. They look great and are WAY brighter than the stockers. The light pattern is perfect too.
The install was easy and only took a few minutes. Just pop out the 4 push pin rivets, remove the panel, then pull the old bulbs out. The only issue I had was reinstalling the rivets, I broke one. >:( Fortunately I had a replacement.
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I installed these yesterday and they are indeed plug and play. They look great and are WAY brighter than the stockers. The light pattern is perfect too.
I knew you would like them! They are amazing in every way.... let's just hope they last a long time.
The install was easy and only took a few minutes. Just pop out the 4 push pin rivets, remove the panel, then pull the old bulbs out. The only issue I had was reinstalling the rivets, I broke one. >:( Fortunately I had a replacement.
Yeah, I broke one, too, this last time. Used it anyway, just doesn't work as well. I have a love/hate relationship with plastic rivets. They hold well and usually are easy to work with, but sometimes they are a pain to get in or out, and sometimes break.
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Yeah, I broke one, too, this last time. Used it anyway, just doesn't work as well. I have a love/hate relationship with plastic rivets. They hold well and usually are easy to work with, but sometimes they are a pain to get in or out, and sometimes break.
Sometimes I dare to go outside, but sometimes I don't.
Sometimes I want to ride my bike, but sometimes I won't.
Sometimes I choose to watch TV, but sometimes I can't.
Sometimes I have to mow the lawn, but sometimes I shan't.
I am installing my JDM Astar city lights today- looking forward.
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I'm posting pics just to prove I made the city lights mod, but these certainly DO NOT do the new lights justice. I would say maxtog's pics don't do justice either. To my eyes, the JDM LED bulbs are very different than the OE bulbs. BTW, those little OE filament bulbs get extremely hot quickly. Anyway, I purchased two pair to be safe; I put my OE bulbs in the supplied zip bag for safekeeping. I also changed out the 5-year old OE headlight bulbs for the Philips +130%ers. After feeling the heat off the city lights, I'm more convinced about making the switch to LED headlight bulbs. In the daylight, I can't tell that the new headlight bulbs are any brighter, but I can see the color difference and they sure are pretty! Have to see what they look like at night.
Pound for pound, dollar for dollar, a very high value upgrade. The JDM Astar Amber LED city lights, that is.
(http://www.zggtr.org/MGalleryItem.php?id=741)
(http://www.zggtr.org/MGalleryItem.php?id=742)
Both OE city lights --- JDM on the right --- Both JDM city lights + New headlights
(http://www.zggtr.org/MGalleryItem.php?id=743)(http://www.zggtr.org/MGalleryItem.php?id=744)(http://www.zggtr.org/MGalleryItem.php?id=745)
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Why yellow and not the white ones?
(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/61UbNLcgJBL._SL1500_.jpg)
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Prob cuz the yellow ones are way too big.
:P
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Prob cuz the yellow ones are way too big.
:rotflmao:
ISWYDT
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Why yellow and not the white ones?
Because white is a total waste of time. Seen from a distance, the white lights don't show, they just merge into the headlights. At least with bright yellow, it offers some contract as running lights. That tends to increase visibility and conspicuousness, and that improves safety.
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Because white is a total waste of time. Seen from a distance, the white lights don't show, they just merge into the headlights. At least with bright yellow, it offers some contract as running lights. That tends to increase visibility and conspicuousness, and that improves safety.
And because I think we covered that several pages back. Would be different if the bike could be run with city lights only.
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City lights small. Headlights big. Me like big.
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City lights small. Headlights big. Me like big.
Every little bit counts!
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I'm thinking that a load resistor won't help in this case. ;)
(http://www.pandemic-usa.com/v/vspfiles/assets/images/load%20resistor%20installation.jpg)
It occurs to me that a load resistor in parallel (this example) will REDUCE the system resistance. It should be in series, as the goal is to increase the resistance Incandescents have more resistance than LEDs, and the load resistor is adding that missing resistance.
Yes, I know this is an old thread. But it linked to recently.
dat
sax
man
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All that resistor in that schematic would so is to serve to create another current path, thereby converting some of the bike's current into heat. No effect on the city lights. It will serve to increase the chaos in the universe but what is the point of that, really?
Unless I am missing something.??
Brian
It occurs to me that a load resistor in parallel (this example) will REDUCE the system resistance. It should be in series, as the goal is to increase the resistance Incandescents have more resistance than LEDs, and the load resistor is adding that missing resistance.
Yes, I know this is an old thread. But it linked to recently.
dat
sax
man
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There is no need for a load resistor anywhere on the C14 unless we are talking about replacing the turn signals with LED bulbs and WITHOUT replacing the flasher unit/relay with a solid state one (which is far, far easier and better in every way).
The diagram is definitely not about city lights. And not really about turn signals either. It looks like it is trying to be a combination replacement turn signal bulb/brake light/tail light thing for a single bulb. I don't see an application for that on the C14, unless I, too, am missing something. We already have an LED brake light, and it would be illegal to turn a yellow rear turn signal into a tail/running and/or brake light (unless also changing it to red... but that would lower the effectiveness of the turn signal, which being yellow is far superior to red). Unless it is one of those new/fancy/coolness color-changing bulbs. Hmm... which just brings one back to just replacing the flasher unit with a solid-state one :)
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Max, got the yellow LED's in. Nice change. Thanks.
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Max, got the yellow LED's in. Nice change. Thanks.
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