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The C-14, aka Kawasaki Concours-14, the new one :) => The Bike - C14/GTR 1400 => Topic started by: reesedp on October 09, 2012, 03:21:09 PM

Title: Kawasaki "Customer Service"
Post by: reesedp on October 09, 2012, 03:21:09 PM
Perhaps someone can educate me as to how this works?  My 2nd VC gasket is leaking.  The dealer tells me to call Kawasaki.  Kawasaki tells me they have to hear it from a dealer.  Dealer tells me they can't get through to Kawasaki.  What gives?
Title: Re: Kawasaki "Customer Service"
Post by: maxtog on October 09, 2012, 04:11:05 PM
Perhaps someone can educate me as to how this works?  My 2nd VC gasket is leaking.  The dealer tells me to call Kawasaki.  Kawasaki tells me they have to hear it from a dealer.  Dealer tells me they can't get through to Kawasaki.  What gives?

Sounds like a runaround.  You should not have to contact Kawasaki, that is the dealer's job.  And they should not be having problems "getting through" if they are really trying....  I would ask them point blank:  What method are they using to contact them?  How many times have they tried?  What is the customer supposed to do?

Most of us have only one dealer in a reasonable distance, but if you have another available, you might want to try them.
Title: Re: Kawasaki "Customer Service"
Post by: Son of Pappy on October 09, 2012, 04:12:01 PM
They created KIPASS to protect these kind of things.  Change the battery in yer fob and all will be well.

PS, Sorry for the humor at your expense, the only thing Kawasaki lacks is customer service.  I've read enough stories from a few Sr. members to know what to expect.  I do believe they have this guys name engraved on a wall of shame.  I would suggest fostering a solid relationship with your dealer to have any luck.  Sad, but true.
Title: Re: Kawasaki "Customer Service"
Post by: stevewfl on October 09, 2012, 04:15:25 PM
They created KIPASS to protect these kind of things. Change the battery in yer fob and all will be well.

PS, Sorry for the humor at your expense, the only thing Kawasaki lacks is customer service.  I've read enough stories from a few Sr. members to know what to expect.  I do believe they have this guys name engraved on a wall of shame.  I would suggest fostering a solid relationship with your dealer to have any luck.  Sad, but true.


^^^^^that.  Although Mark at Kawasaki customer care loves us all too
Title: Re: Kawasaki "Customer Service"
Post by: Jeremy Mitchell on October 10, 2012, 06:39:43 AM
Sounds more like a dealer issue. My service manager has gotten everything approved for my bike and some things he will submit to Kawasaki for warranty work just by me emailing a picture (TPMS low battery warning and fuel tank rust).

If you think Kawasaki customer service is bad just try getting something fixed under warranty through Suzuki.   ::)
Title: Re: Kawasaki "Customer Service"
Post by: quiet and invisible on October 10, 2012, 07:51:36 AM
I second what Jeremy says. Suzuki is the worst. Kawi will take care of you but it might take some persistence on your part.
Title: Re: Kawasaki "Customer Service"
Post by: MAN OF BLUES on October 10, 2012, 08:05:50 AM
I see you are in Newport News, I don't know about your local dealership, but I do know he is blowing you a line of BS about not being able to contact kaw, and telling you to.
That is classic "nope".
Get a note to Virginia jim, a moderator here, and find his dealership down there, or contact Ultimate Cycle up in Richmond, and go thru them, they ARE atrusted and GREAT dealership, with good service.
You can get the info for Ultimate from the extended warranty thread in this section.

It really pizzs me off hearing about dealers telling folks to call Kawasaki....it's no different than flipping you off to your face in my book, and I'd punch the Knob right in the face if he told me that...... ???
Title: Re: Kawasaki "Customer Service"
Post by: MAN OF BLUES on October 10, 2012, 08:15:21 AM
call and tell the service guy here what you were told, and then come back and tell everyone what HE says...


these are my pals here in Richmond
Ultimate Cycle
8321 Midlothian Tpk.
Richmond, Va 23235
website only;
www.ultimateCycle.net (http://www.ultimateCycle.net)

804-330-4800
Title: Re: Kawasaki "Customer Service"
Post by: fmwhit on October 10, 2012, 06:16:52 PM
Reesedp, I was told the exact same thing by the local dealer here in Newburgh , mine was not with regards to a valve cover but another problem.  When I contacted Kawi they told me to have the dealer contact them directly.  Kawis network leaves something to be desired.  For those that live in an area where they have a decent local dealer thank your lucky stars because there are plenty of us that are not so lucky.

Fred
Title: Re: Kawasaki "Customer Service"
Post by: 556ALPHA on October 11, 2012, 07:39:52 AM
I am guessing you are at Casey.   Richmond may be a better option but you can try Sunrise in Norfolk as well. 
Title: Re: Kawasaki "Customer Service"
Post by: maxtog on October 11, 2012, 02:36:16 PM
I am guessing you are at Casey.   Richmond may be a better option but you can try Sunrise in Norfolk as well.

Sunrise is MY local dealer.  The are usually pretty friendly.  Service has been hit or miss depending on the issue and the year.  No horror stories.
Title: Re: Kawasaki "Customer Service"
Post by: MAN OF BLUES on October 11, 2012, 02:52:03 PM
WOW
just goes to show the interesting things...

2 weeks ago I stopped in and questioned my new local dealer about doing warranty work, the brake lever recall, and the replacement of my sometimes not correct TPM sensors....he ordered both, and called me back...
dropped it off at 10 this a.m., picked it up @ 3 p.m., smile and a handshake.....
thank you, come again......phenominal. 8)
Title: Re: Kawasaki "Customer Service"
Post by: jamiemac on October 11, 2012, 03:26:13 PM
I live in Clarksville, IN, but travel to Harodsburg, Kentucky to get My bike serviced. Lee's http://www.leesinc.com/ (http://www.leesinc.com/) Kawasaki, Suzi, & Yamaha. Very nice, small town folks. Family run business, & the Mom is the boss. How cool is that!
Title: Re: Kawasaki "Customer Service"
Post by: Rocket Therapy on October 11, 2012, 06:41:15 PM
When I purchased my bike about 4 weeks ago and was going over it with the dealer I noticed a scratch on the bag, the sales man said I could have them take care of it, repaint the cover or they would do the first service on the bike, I told him I would let him know. Also I told the dealer about the brake recall and he said he would order the recall part and call me, about a week later they called and said the part was in and I could come in anytime.  Last week it got to 80 degrees here a couple days in a row and I wanted to ride so I called the dealer and said I would be in for the brake recall, so off I go,  about a 80 mile ride, 80 degree weather I was loving it. When I get to the dealer, they can't find the recall part, "probably put it on another bike, I'm thinking"  dealer said he was sorry and wanted to make it up to me and would send a tech to my house 80 miles away and install the recall part. I also them that I would fix the scratch and they could supply the touch-up paint, dealer agreed. He also told me that he still wanted to do the next service on the bike, I told him what oil I use,  mobile 1 4t, and he said that he would have it there for me. I think this is pretty good for a dealer and this is the first time I've  dealt with them. What's your opinion??  The tech was here yesterday and installed the recall part in my driveway and gave me the touch-up kit.
Title: Re: Kawasaki "Customer Service"
Post by: maxtog on October 11, 2012, 09:26:22 PM
I think this is pretty good for a dealer and this is the first time I've  dealt with them. What's your opinion??  The tech was here yesterday and installed the recall part in my driveway and gave me the touch-up kit.

Sounds reasonable.

When I bought my bike from Sunrise, they had to get it from another dealer because all they had was.... black (yuck).  When it arrived at the dealer, I went there to check it out and it perfect EXCEPT a scratch on the front right between the headlights.  He promised me they would take care of it and on my schedule, even gave me an "IOU".  So they delivered it a few days later.  It was months before first service, and I wanted them to do the service.  I called the service manager and he said "oh yeah, we have had your parts for the front for months and have just been waiting for when you are ready."  I took it in for service a week later or something and I got it back *perfect*.  Turns out they ordered a whole new front plastic and replaced it (I thought they were going to try and repaint it or something).  And no new scratches or issues.  Was very pleased.
Title: Re: Kawasaki "Customer Service"
Post by: Jeremy Mitchell on October 12, 2012, 05:20:30 AM
WOW
just goes to show the interesting things...

2 weeks ago I stopped in and questioned my new local dealer about doing warranty work, the brake lever recall, and the replacement of my sometimes not correct TPM sensors....he ordered both, and called me back...
dropped it off at 10 this a.m., picked it up @ 3 p.m., smile and a handshake.....
thank you, come again......phenominal. 8)

Sounds alot like my dealer (Stahlman Powersports in Rolla, MO)


I had my C14 in for a new rear tire and I rode my bike to the dealer (I usually carry my wheels in) and the Victory Demo truck was there so I test rode a victory cross country [cruise control and stereo were nice but other than that it was a slug].  Got back to see my bike ready, in the parking lot. I walked back to pay at the service department and they had scuffed/scratched the powdercoat on my rear rim and told me I didn't owe a dime (receipt showed a total of $235 after tax, would have been around $200 after price matching the rear tire). I can touch up the powdercoat issue and am very happy with the service
Title: Re: Kawasaki "Customer Service"
Post by: reesedp on October 12, 2012, 01:04:01 PM
I really appreciate all the feedback guys.  Just got off the phone with them and they havent heard anything yet.  The problem is that they are only about a mile from my house, and I'm a pretty busy guy.  Dont think I can pull off trips to Richmond.  Sunrise might work if I take a day off.  You guys are all paying my wages anyway, so may I have permission?
Title: Re: Kawasaki "Customer Service"
Post by: MAN OF BLUES on October 13, 2012, 12:15:45 PM
I really appreciate all the feedback guys.  Just got off the phone with them and they havent heard anything yet.  The problem is that they are only about a mile from my house, and I'm a pretty busy guy.  Dont think I can pull off trips to Richmond.  Sunrise might work if I take a day off.  You guys are all paying my wages anyway, so may I have permission?

I'm in Ohio now, but I paid enough taxes for the last 10 years in Va to give you permission to take the day off.... ;D
I'ts a nice ride if you go up rt 5, and then hit the Powhite Pkwy over to Midloathian...bout 90 min's each way....
we called that route the "nickle-dime route", out of Richmond on 5 to Jamestown, across the ferry to Surry for a munch at the restaurant, then continue to rt 10, and take it back up/over thru Hopewell, and into Richmond....

Call Ultimate....they will do you right.... ;)
Title: Re: Kawasaki "Customer Service"
Post by: reesedp on October 19, 2012, 12:17:41 PM
So finally heard back from the dealer...   The Kawasaki rep could find "no instance of there being a record of manufacturing defect with the valve cover gasket, and no issues with the techniques used to install it", therefore it MUST be normal for a gasket to last only 8+k miles!  What a damn crock!  I cant count the number of gaskets I've installed/reused/made out of manilla folders over the years that never leaked.  I'm highly disappointed that this wasnt taken care of.  So I guess I need to just deal with the burning oil smell until I pay for ANOTHER new one at the 30k service! 
Title: Re: Kawasaki "Customer Service"
Post by: Pokey on October 19, 2012, 12:20:31 PM
So finally heard back from the dealer...   The Kawasaki rep could find "no instance of there being a record of manufacturing defect with the valve cover gasket, and no issues with the techniques used to install it", therefore it MUST be normal for a gasket to last only 8+k miles!  What a damn crock!  I cant count the number of gaskets I've installed/reused/made out of manilla folders over the years that never leaked.  I'm highly disappointed that this wasnt taken care of.  So I guess I need to just deal with the burning oil smell until I pay for ANOTHER new one at the 30k service!


Order a gasket and do it yourself.  ;)
Title: Re: Kawasaki "Customer Service"
Post by: Cheesecake on October 19, 2012, 06:53:18 PM
You should go to another dealer.  Not convenient, but this is what happens when the dealer and Kawa both decide to dump you. I had the same thing happen to me with a warranty rear drive failure. And when I started pushing hard on the Kawa people, they started punching like a bi polar 7th grader. I just saw a picture of the USA Kawa head guy in the new Motorcyclist. He is about 80 and looks like Yoda, only taller. Alan Maseki or Masek. Called the head of America imports, previously called Vice President or Marketing Director. . Likely hired a-holes to keep the problems away. If someone told the heads of Kawasaki in Japan what is happening here with customer service, Harakiri.
Title: Re: Kawasaki "Customer Service"
Post by: Jeremy Mitchell on October 20, 2012, 07:21:13 AM
The dealer is blowing smoke up your skirt!

If your service manager is worth a crap he will get the work approved.  My bike had over 30,000 miles and had just been lowsided when I got my valve cover gasket replaced under warranty. 
Title: Re: Kawasaki "Customer Service"
Post by: Rasmith on October 20, 2012, 11:32:53 AM
The dealer is blowing smoke up your skirt!

If your service manager is worth a crap he will get the work approved.  My bike had over 30,000 miles and had just been lowsided when I got my valve cover gasket replaced under warranty.

It must be either having a relationship with your dealer or their integrity or a combination of both. My local dealer has given me nothing but BS, lies and shoddy service and GTTP denials (never honored one claim)  to the point where I had to go across town to another Dealer. I made sure to let the Service manager know of my experience with Dealer X and that having two kawasakis, I was wanting a dealer I could have a relationship with and trust to treat me FAIRLY. It was amazing how well that was received
Title: Re: Kawasaki "Customer Service"
Post by: Cheesecake on October 20, 2012, 11:04:19 PM
Dealers never change, they just eventually sell out or close up. To some, the customer is king. To others, he is a target for flying excrement. (http://www.pic4ever.com/images/nudie.gif)
Title: Re: Kawasaki "Customer Service"
Post by: reesedp on October 21, 2012, 07:37:24 AM
The dealer is blowing smoke up your skirt!

If your service manager is worth a crap he will get the work approved.  My bike had over 30,000 miles and had just been lowsided when I got my valve cover gasket replaced under warranty.

I gave up my skirt when I took my chevrons off and pinned my bar on!!  Or was it the other way around?  ???