Kawasaki Concours Forum
Mish mash => Open Forum => Topic started by: wally_games on February 08, 2014, 04:47:19 PM
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Ok, guys. With all the toll roads going up in the DFW area and the fact that the airport is switching to toll tag pay, I picked up NTTA toll tags for my cars. Since they'll send you three tags on one account, I had one registered to my Connie.
How do most people mount their toll tags? They're supposed to be permanently mounted, but I don't see that being a very good option. I was thinking about putting it between two pieces of plastic and mounting it to a Ram Ball. That way I could take it off the bike when it's parked and not worry about it disappearing.
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I've got a ram mount for my EZPass. Fits on the bars.
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From what I understand the best place to mount it is in the side case on the angled section facing forward and up. Use the Velcro to stick it on just like on a windshield. The plastic of the side case is easier to transmit through then a windshield. C14 riders who have done this report 100% success. Plus then it's protected from the elements and theft.
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The new Kawasaki Concours tank bag has a clear compartment for GPS, or transponders. You might check Kawasaki's website and see if it is for you. The best price I found was over at ronayers.com
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Back when WA State first started this they had a standard brick for everything. Since then they have gone to a small, almost invisible sticker for the headlight. I mounted the brick under the upper left fairing cover, worked good.
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I also need to do this, i might be doing a Iron Butt ride out to South Dakota in June and they would like everyone to have EZPASS for I80
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Best check on what states use EZPASS or any other transponder. I can tell you that FL doesn't use EZPASS as of last August.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E-ZPass (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E-ZPass)
EZPASS only goes as far west as Illinois.
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Best check on what states use EZPASS or any other transponder. I can tell you that FL doesn't use EZPASS as of last August.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E-ZPass (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E-ZPass)
EZPASS only goes as far west as Illinois.
OH, IN, ILL i believe are the only states we need it in
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EZ Pass (or any transponder toll system of another name) is the best thing to hit IBA riding since the yellow line. It really works well and hugely reduces the waste of time at tolls.
I have used EZ Pass on all toll roads on I-80 / I-90 between the coasts and it worked everywhere I happened to travel. The names of the systems change but the functionality is the same and they recognize the transponders of different 'families'. Sort of like ATM's- they are all pretty much interchangeable now but it was not always that way.
Brian
I also need to do this, i might be doing a Iron Butt ride out to South Dakota in June and they would like everyone to have EZPASS for I80
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FL USES THE "Sun Pass".... 8)
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Wow, like an island, huh? Sun Pass is just working on their first interchange with North Carolina- I guess someone failed to note that both Georgia and South Carolina are in the way?
http://articles.sun-sentinel.com/2013-06-28/news/fl-sunpass-ezpass-20130628_1_toll-road-toll-plaza-toll-booths (http://articles.sun-sentinel.com/2013-06-28/news/fl-sunpass-ezpass-20130628_1_toll-road-toll-plaza-toll-booths)
Say, do dem dare Sun Pass thingies have a lot of hanging chads? <grinnin', duckin' and runnin'>
Brian
FL USES THE "Sun Pass".... 8)
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FL USES THE "Sun Pass".... 8)
Bit me in the a*s..
I thought I read somewhere that ezpass was accepted. Went on my merry way through untold toll booths around Orlando... Figured out it didn't work after an alarm or two... Caught up with me in September..
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Colorado discontinued the 4"x4"x1/2" transponder and went with a windshield stick on RFID. For some reason they use a different one for a bike then for a car. On a car you just stick it to the inside of the windshield in the upper left corner. But for the bike it is light powered and must be put just below your headlight. No idea why a car can just be powered by the tiny built in antenna but not on the bike.
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Colorado discontinued the 4"x4"x1/2" transponder and went with a windshield stick on RFID. For some reason they use a different one for a bike then for a car. On a car you just stick it to the inside of the windshield in the upper left corner. But for the bike it is light powered and must be put just below your headlight. No idea why a car can just be powered by the tiny built in antenna but not on the bike.
Everyone knows a biker would never place a sticker on the windshield, wrecks the bling factor and "Hogs" up precious space for all the bar advertisements ;)
I like the headlight sticker, almost invisible and trust me, impossible to get off in one piece. The car stickers I have had luck getting off in one piece.
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(https://www.sunpass.com/images/ei_sunpass-home-logo.png)
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Bit me in the a*s..
I thought I read somewhere that ezpass was accepted. Went on my merry way through untold toll booths around Orlando... Figured out it didn't work after an alarm or two... Caught up with me in September..
Ouch i could only imagine, my parents borrowed my Tahoe to go to New York in and dad blew a toll booth(said he was in the wrong lane) it was a $1.50 toll and they send me mail with a picture of my truck and the license plate and a fine of $25 plus the $1.50 toll and a $3 processing fee for $29.50 total. I couldn't imagine getting nailed for several of them....OUCH!!!!
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Not that bad in FL. thank goodness. Every one I missed was $4 and something...
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I don't mount my NTTA thing on my concours. They have cameras. There isn't currently a price difference between if they scan the badge or process the license plate.
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Ouch i could only imagine, my parents borrowed my Tahoe to go to New York in and dad blew a toll booth(said he was in the wrong lane) it was a $1.50 toll and they send me mail with a picture of my truck and the license plate and a fine of $25 plus the $1.50 toll and a $3 processing fee for $29.50 total. I couldn't imagine getting nailed for several of them....OUCH!!!!
IF whoever blows the tollbooth tells you about it in time, you can contact EZPass and they just bill you for the toll. (Or at least it used to work that way - maybe they'll still add the "processing fee")
My teenage daughter did the same thing to me... I still can't comprehend how she missed the trailer truck sized signs on the Garden State Parkway that said "EZ-Pass ONLY"... ::)
She now has her own EZ-Pass account.
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I put my ezpass in the tank compartment on my 09.
Works fine as long as you have it correct side up.
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Exactly right- but it looks like it is upside down.... when it is really right side up :-)
The writing goes toward the fuel tank- exactly how it would go against a windshield. The problem is that we humans want to put it in (easy boys!) so we can read the writing, which is upside down. It cost the EZ Pass folks a few dollars for me to figure that one out....
<sheepish grin>
Brian
I put my ezpass in the tank compartment on my 09.
Works fine as long as you have it correct side up.
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From what I understand the best place to mount it is in the side case on the angled section facing forward and up. Use the Velcro to stick it on just like on a windshield. The plastic of the side case is easier to transmit through then a windshield. C14 riders who have done this report 100% success. Plus then it's protected from the elements and theft.
The new "Express Lanes" on I64 are now open. And from everything I read, motorcycles can use that lane *any time* for free. I travel that road/direction for a good distance about once a week, so I decided it might be worth the hassle. It is only a single lane, so getting caught behind someone slow would be irritating. But otherwise, it is another option for travel if the main lanes had an accident. Or just because it is physically separated from other vehicles (wider lane and has physical barriers on about halfway) so it would increase motorcycle travel safety.
So I decided to plop down the $20 and the pass arrived today. I plan to mount it in the right pannier, exactly how you described. Nothing to steal, no number for someone to examine, protected from the elements, can't just fall off onto the road, etc. I am not sure how I will know if it is working or not, since they might use plate if the read fails and might not send any notice at all. Guess I wait and see. I am likely to use it Saturday night. So Big Brother will be watching....
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I didn't think that you had to use a transponder thingy for motorcycles on roads. I've never used one up here on 95 before. What is this $20 option you speak of?
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I didn't think that you had to use a transponder thingy for motorcycles on roads. I've never used one up here on 95 before. What is this $20 option you speak of?
They converted the failed I64 HOV lanes into "Express Lanes" and added readers for that purpose (similar kind used at all the toll bridges/tunnels).
I don't know about there, but here, ANY vehicle using the express lanes is required to have an EZPass account and transponder on the vehicle. Creating an account and registering the plate is "free", and the transponder is "free", but you have to load a minimum of $20 on the account for tolls. Then they send the transponder. Since I am likely never to use any toll, that $20 will just sit there on the account forever.
http://www.64expresslanes.org
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I've rode in the hot lanes/HOV up here in NOVA and did not use an ezpass but my bike is registered with the system. I don't remember getting any bills..
https://vcomonline.org/motorcycles-tolls-transponders-on-novas-hovhot-lanes/
This is an old link and it only mentions NOVA.
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I've rode in the hot lanes/HOV up here in NOVA and did not use an ezpass but my bike is registered with the system. I don't remember getting any bills..
If you are registered, and the transponder is not read, the license plate reader SHOULD still link to your account and act the same as using a transpoder. But, at least in Hampton Roads, I don't think you can create an account without them sending you an EZpass transponder, which they apparently expect you to mount and use. I scanned through their documentation and FAQ's and can't find any mention of exactly what happens when the transponder is not read. I can only find anecdotes elsewhere.
Presumably if the tag is not read while in the express lanes, the system will assume NON-HOV mode and charge the full amount of the express lane toll at the time based on vehicle class (which for a motorcycle is zero dollars) to the plate holder's account. Have no idea if a notification or warning is issued. If there is no account for the plate holder, it will charge that plus hefty fees which escalate over time ("pay by plate" or "Missed-a-Toll") to the owner of the car via mail.
So it does make one wonder why bother with a transponder or account if you are a motorcycle and use ONLY Express Lanes without using toll bridges and tunnels. I thought of this, but wanted to be on the safe side with no surprises. There might be some fee for non-account-holders. It is amazing there is no info on that.
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I know about the lack of information. I have seen HOV signs that state MC OK up here but I haven't been down to your area since the 'change'..
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Well, used it the first time last night. Logged into site today and there were no charges or notifications. But also no activity under "transactions" either.
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It can take a few days for a transaction to show up. Not sure if the weekend is playing into that though.
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It can take a few days for a transaction to show up. Not sure if the weekend is playing into that though.
Well, has now been 1 hour shy of 5 days. Still no notifications and nothing under "transactions." So I suspect using the express lanes as a registered motorcycle with transponder (or car with HOV selected on transponder) simply records nothing that the user can see because there is no charge or problem.
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That kinda proves that MCs are allowed without toll on hot lanes... I do look at my transactions occasionally and I've never seen a bill for using the bike on them or HOV for that matter.