Super Bike vs F1 Auto

[Walker18]

Guy Martin and his Tyco BMW Superbike take on David Coulthard and a Red Bull RB8 Formula 1 car in a series of head-to-head challenges including a drag race, a brake test, a slalom and a circuit race.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tlxG1-aWtI&feature=player_embedded

[maxtog]

Guy Martin and his Tyco BMW Superbike take on David Coulthard and a Red Bull RB8 Formula 1 car in a series of head-to-head challenges including a drag race, a brake test, a slalom and a circuit race.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tlxG1-aWtI&feature=player_embedded

Interesting, but I want a rematch with a bike that was designed using the same amount of people/resources/years/money as the F1 car    It is easy to have a bike that is significantly faster in the straight (as you saw in the video)... but super-extreme cornering on a 2 wheel vehicle... that has some particularly interesting technical challenges.

[Deziner]

Apples to oranges. It should have been a Moto Gp bike.

[gPink]

...and Marc Marquez.

[Walker18]

The side by side passing in the corners was a slap of reality, and in doing so, he was swinging wide.
The way the F1 danced through the rest of the course was poetic. I doubt Guy Martian could've had better
times than he did, and he did very well. All in all, the real thing was better than watching animated overlays.
 

[Rhino]

...and Marc Marquez.

MM on his motoGP Honda I believe would out run Guy Martin on the BMW but not nearly enough to make it even close to the F1 car. At COTA, MM has the lap record for a motorcycle and still about 22 seconds slower than F1.

[Deziner]

Cost of Moto Gp bike, $2M. Cost of Red Bull F1 car, $171M. I'm no math major but.....

[Rhino]

Cost of Moto Gp bike, $2M. Cost of Red Bull F1 car, $171M. I'm no math major but.....

True but I doubt even a billion dollars is going to overcome 2 tiny contact patches vs 4 very large contact patches. That said, I don't even go to F1 at COTA any more. Totally boring compared to moto GP

[Deziner]

True but I doubt even a billion dollars is going to overcome 2 tiny contact patches vs 4 very large contact patches. That said, I don't even go to F1 at COTA any more. Totally boring compared to moto GP

Absolutely. My point was, at 80 times the cost, 20 seconds is very expensive.

[Cholla]

Speed costs $. How fast ya wanna go?

[jimmymac]

I like Guy.

[Rhino]

Absolutely. My point was, at 80 times the cost, 20 seconds is very expensive.

True dat! And now with the hybrid cars the exhaust is muffled and it doesn't even sound like an F1 race anymore. Sure they go faster but the spectacle and soul of F1 racing is gone.

[Conniesaki]

Absolutely. My point was, at 80 times the cost, 20 seconds is very expensive.

Not a problem since it's sponsors and consumers footing the bill 

[Deziner]

Cubic inches used to win races, now cubic money does.

[maxtog]

True dat! And now with the hybrid cars the exhaust is muffled and it doesn't even sound like an F1 race anymore. Sure they go faster but the spectacle and soul of F1 racing is gone.

Fast *should* be quiet.  People need to get over this whole noise = fast crud.

Just wait until fully electric... OMG fast and virtually no sound at all.  All we need are vastly more powerful batteries.  But even with limited batteries- Tesla vehicles haul ass!

[Deziner]

Electric is good but there is NOTHING like the sound of a screaming internal combustion engine.

[gPink]

Fast *should* be quiet.  People need to get over this whole noise = fast crud.

Just wait until fully electric... OMG fast and virtually no sound at all.  All we need are vastly more powerful batteries.  But even with limited batteries- Tesla vehicles haul ass!

Yeah, with the fedgov shoveling taxpayer money at Musk. If it's such a wonderful idea let it stand on it's own.

[maxtog]

Electric is good but there is NOTHING like the sound of a screaming internal combustion engine.

What?!!!  I can't hear you!!!!!!

[maxtog]

Yeah, with the fedgov shoveling taxpayer money at Musk.

The Fed gives a credit for all electric vehicles, not just Tesla.

If it's such a wonderful idea let it stand on it's own.

The Libertarian in me agrees...but the realist in me believes that market needs some support to get going.  I think a better route would be to tax gas higher and use THAT money only for things relating to improving transportation, and if that includes a subsidy for quiet/safe/efficient/green/anti-middle-east vehicles, that ain't so bad.

[gPink]

I can hardly wait for my ObamaCar.