Author Topic: 2008 C14 - Use a backrest AND a top case  (Read 22025 times)

Offline jasoncp4

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 11
  • Country: us
2008 C14 - Use a backrest AND a top case
« on: April 01, 2015, 10:27:02 AM »
Hi All,

I just purchased a 2008 C14 that has a Bakup USA backrest on it. I want to use my Givi V46 top case I had on the FJ1200 I just sold and still have a backrest (wife doesn't like the pad on the Givi)

I saw that you can do that with the AST backrest but says you can't open the case all the way with the V46. (Naturally as that's the one that I have)

Any suggestions? Sell the V46 and get a different case?

Thanks,

Jason


Offline mikeb2411

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 575
  • Country: us
Re: 2008 C14 - Use a backrest AND a top case
« Reply #1 on: April 01, 2015, 12:28:56 PM »
Hi All,

I just purchased a 2008 C14 that has a Bakup USA backrest on it. I want to use my Givi V46 top case I had on the FJ1200 I just sold and still have a backrest (wife doesn't like the pad on the Givi)

Hey Jason, I have the GIVI E55 for my bike and my wife also hated the back pad. I took everything over to a local seat builder (including the wife) and they cut and shaped the back pad and now my wife loves it!
Mike
Ojai, CA
2016 Black Triumph Trophy SE

Offline jasoncp4

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 11
  • Country: us
Re: 2008 C14 - Use a backrest AND a top case
« Reply #2 on: April 03, 2015, 05:11:25 AM »
Thanks for tip, any chance you have a pix of the new backrest?


Offline mikeb2411

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 575
  • Country: us
Re: 2008 C14 - Use a backrest AND a top case
« Reply #3 on: April 03, 2015, 12:28:21 PM »
Thanks for tip, any chance you have a pix of the new backrest?

Yep...I'll pot as soon as I can
Mike
Ojai, CA
2016 Black Triumph Trophy SE

Offline VirginiaJim

  • Administrator
  • Elite Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 11335
  • Country: england
  • I've forgotten more than I'll ever know...
    • Kawasaki 1400GTR
Re: 2008 C14 - Use a backrest AND a top case
« Reply #4 on: April 03, 2015, 12:29:02 PM »
?
"LOCTITE®"  The original thread locker...  #11  2020 Indian Roadmaster, ABS, Cruise control, heated grips and seats/w/AC 46 Monitoring with cutting edge technology U.N.I.T is Back! Member in good standing with the Knights of MEH.

Offline mikeb2411

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 575
  • Country: us
Re: 2008 C14 - Use a backrest AND a top case
« Reply #5 on: April 03, 2015, 12:30:43 PM »
Umm..."post" as soon as I can  :o
Mike
Ojai, CA
2016 Black Triumph Trophy SE

Offline VirginiaJim

  • Administrator
  • Elite Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 11335
  • Country: england
  • I've forgotten more than I'll ever know...
    • Kawasaki 1400GTR
Re: 2008 C14 - Use a backrest AND a top case
« Reply #6 on: April 03, 2015, 01:47:47 PM »
 :)
"LOCTITE®"  The original thread locker...  #11  2020 Indian Roadmaster, ABS, Cruise control, heated grips and seats/w/AC 46 Monitoring with cutting edge technology U.N.I.T is Back! Member in good standing with the Knights of MEH.

Offline 556ALPHA

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 1284
  • Country: us
  • 2009 Candy Diamond Red
Re: 2008 C14 - Use a backrest AND a top case
« Reply #7 on: April 04, 2015, 07:57:52 PM »
Phil has a set of rails that will fix you up, no problems.  You may have to move the backrest plate forward slightly by drilling new holes but most likely not.  How do you attach the top case with the plate on?

Offline jasoncp4

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 11
  • Country: us
Re: 2008 C14 - Use a backrest AND a top case
« Reply #8 on: April 05, 2015, 07:05:54 AM »
You can't attach a case with the Bakup USA backrest, I was going to get the plate and backrest from AST and then read that it won't work with the V46, which of course is the one I have.

Is that what you were asking?

Thanks,

Jason

Offline 556ALPHA

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 1284
  • Country: us
  • 2009 Candy Diamond Red
Re: 2008 C14 - Use a backrest AND a top case
« Reply #9 on: April 05, 2015, 10:10:25 AM »
what specifically prohibits it?

Offline jasoncp4

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 11
  • Country: us
Re: 2008 C14 - Use a backrest AND a top case
« Reply #10 on: April 05, 2015, 02:05:37 PM »
the plate wasn't designed to put a to put a topcase on it.

Offline gPink

  • Arena
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 5686
  • Country: cn
  • MMVIII C XIV
Re: 2008 C14 - Use a backrest AND a top case
« Reply #11 on: April 05, 2015, 02:31:50 PM »
By the pictures on Bakup's website it doesn't look like any topcase will work with that backrest due to the way it mounts on top of the rack.

Offline jasoncp4

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 11
  • Country: us
Re: 2008 C14 - Use a backrest AND a top case
« Reply #12 on: April 05, 2015, 03:47:39 PM »
Right, that's why I'm trying to find out if anyone is using a V46 with a separate backrest. If I get the one from AST I can't use the V46 I already have.

Offline gPink

  • Arena
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 5686
  • Country: cn
  • MMVIII C XIV
Re: 2008 C14 - Use a backrest AND a top case
« Reply #13 on: April 05, 2015, 03:59:34 PM »
I've seen the Corbin seat/backrest used with the trunk. Can't think of any other though there may be. AST is tough to do business with if you go that route. Search the forums for info on AST.

Offline 556ALPHA

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 1284
  • Country: us
  • 2009 Candy Diamond Red
Re: 2008 C14 - Use a backrest AND a top case
« Reply #14 on: April 05, 2015, 04:23:19 PM »
The plate looks flat with holes.  As I said you may need to drill 4 more holes for maximum clearance but that it up to you.  You can use Phils rack with the SW Motech kit that allows a Monokey box to be used.  Order of install

1. Phils rails.
2  Use closest two sets available holes to seat for the Backrest plate
3  Use the SW kit on a Phils rack and use the farthest set of holes for Phils Rack. 

Look at my picture and you will see I mounted the rails, Custom World Backrest plate, and then Phils rack with the SW kit on top.  You may need to customize the install a little but if mine worked so should this.  As a matter of fact the new plate AST is using looks identical to my Custom World plate.  I had to open up the holes a tiny bit to get it perfect.  You are better off ordering a CUSTOM WORLD backrest that chancing anything with AST



You can see the threaded hole here your closest set of holes on the backrest plate will bolt to, the backrest plate goes below Phils rack and on top of his rails.  It is not installed in this photo but you can see where it will

Here is the new plate that looks just like the Custom world but the old should work if you have it

Here is the three parts together.  Phils rails to bike mounts, Custom Worls backrest plate, then Phils monokey rack setup

The backrest without the box attached
« Last Edit: April 05, 2015, 05:00:27 PM by 556ALPHA »

Offline 556ALPHA

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 1284
  • Country: us
  • 2009 Candy Diamond Red
Re: 2008 C14 - Use a backrest AND a top case
« Reply #15 on: April 05, 2015, 04:58:29 PM »
Source and installed photo on stock setup.  Phils rails allows both to work together, and his rack takes the place of the stock rack allowing the V47 to attach via the SW Motech kit he sells


CUSTOM WORLD BACKREST

http://aviciouscycle.ca/Mainpages/productpage.aspx?product=4489

The note in the bottom does not take into account the mods you will do with Phils rack and rails, look at my bike,  IT DOES WORK and plenty room to open the E55.  The E55 is larger than the V47

Offline gPink

  • Arena
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 5686
  • Country: cn
  • MMVIII C XIV
Re: 2008 C14 - Use a backrest AND a top case
« Reply #16 on: April 05, 2015, 05:07:27 PM »
I wonder if the Bakup mounting plate would fit under the rack with Phils rails?

Offline 556ALPHA

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 1284
  • Country: us
  • 2009 Candy Diamond Red
Re: 2008 C14 - Use a backrest AND a top case
« Reply #17 on: April 05, 2015, 05:20:10 PM »
It looks like the support bar will be too close to the box.  But as I said if there is room to drill new holes in the plate it may work.    But on the other hand you can use any of the holes on Phils rails and make the new drilled holes closer together.  Sandwiched in there, it will be a solid install.

Offline 556ALPHA

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 1284
  • Country: us
  • 2009 Candy Diamond Red
Re: 2008 C14 - Use a backrest AND a top case
« Reply #18 on: April 05, 2015, 05:22:25 PM »
at almost twice the price I would not try unless you already have one.

Offline 556ALPHA

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 1284
  • Country: us
  • 2009 Candy Diamond Red
Re: 2008 C14 - Use a backrest AND a top case
« Reply #19 on: April 05, 2015, 05:32:43 PM »
I wonder if the Bakup mounting plate would fit under the rack with Phils rails?

Below is what I am referring to. Just drill new holes in this location