http://www.kgw.com/news/Clackamas-man-armed-confronts-mall-shooter-183593571.html
Not much about CC Nick Meli confronting the Clackamas mall shooter either - in both of these cases the good guy made the difference; mass shooting was averted; but because it wasn't "horrific" little effort goes into reporting.
And since both of these had "gun on gun" in crowded areas, and no collateral injuries reported, what does that do to the argument that concealed carry would result in MORE casualties? The facts certainly don't support it, But lets' not confuse anyone with facts Steve
If somebody shoots someone else over here it gets reported in all the national media.
But then y'all have so many shootings what difference does one more make?
In 2012 the USA had 3.7 firearm murders per 100,000 population.
In 2012 the UK had 0.04 firearm murders per 100,000 population.
Both figures exclude suicides and unintentional killings.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_firearm-related_death_rate
Now tell me that gun control doesn't work.
BRING ON THE FLAMES!
Guns are practically in our DNA. Even if they were to completely ban all weapons, I would think a majority of them will have been stolen or something. That is among the law abiding citizen. The criminals won't care. They will continue to use weapons against us and we wouldn't have the legal ability to defend ourselves.
I just heard a story on the radio about a women that was at home with her children. Someone was knocking on her door but she didn't answer. The person continued knocking and when nobody answered he then took out his crowbar and busted open the door. When he did that the woman took her two kids and went into the attic. The burglar went thru the entire house and for the last place to look then went into the attic. She happened to take her gun with her and used all 6 shots but only hit 5. It was enough though. After crying on the ground for a bit he managed to get out of the house, get in his car, drove a few houses down, pulled into someones driveway and died.
Now this guy had a crowbar and for all anybody know he could have used it to bludgeon them all to death.
The stats you show only show part of the problem. Sure, you have fewer guns deaths, but since the gun ban gun crime has gone up 35% and violent crime has gone up dramatically. I have also seen some stats that show that since the ban in 1968 in England and Wales, homicides have gone up 52% and since the 1997 ban it has gone up 15%. Because of the ways the British police are reporting crimes the numbers are most likely much higher.
http://www.saf.org/journal/16/guncontrolinengland.pdf
http://www.cato.org/publications/commentary/gun-control-myths-realities
I just heard a story on the radio about a women that was at home with her children. Someone was knocking on her door but she didn't answer. The person continued knocking and when nobody answered he then took out his crowbar and busted open the door. When he did that the woman took her two kids and went into the attic. The burglar went thru the entire house and for the last place to look then went into the attic. She happened to take her gun with her and used all 6 shots but only hit 5. It was enough though. After crying on the ground for a bit he managed to get out of the house, get in his car, drove a few houses down, pulled into someones driveway and died.
And now we have a school superintendent who wants to DISARM the existing POLICE and school security officers who patrol the schools in Shoreline, WA. The insanity of this is just unfathomable. Mass hysteria and media brainwashing.
http://www.komonews.com/news/local/Plan-would-disarm-police-security-guards-in-local-district-185952902.html
Boomer - Go to the link you posted, find the citation credited with the US' fireams death rate. it's thisThe report quotes "Assault (homicide) by discharge of firearms . .(*U01.4,X93–X95) 11,493" (page 39)
http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/homicide.htm
Click on that link, and you'll find it DOES show a 3.7 / 100,000 rate for firearm death, HOWEVER it includes ALL deaths, suicides and accidents included for 2009 . YOUR LINK says the 3.7/100,000 does NOT include suicides and accidents - when referring to the original source they derived their "facts" from, we see that is a lie. Steve
And now we have a school superintendent who wants to DISARM the existing POLICE and school security officers who patrol the schools in Shoreline, WA. The insanity of this is just unfathomable. Mass hysteria and media brainwashing.This article deserves it's own thread, being that there is so much controversy and 'knee-jerking' reactions ongoing throughout the country,
http://www.komonews.com/news/local/Plan-would-disarm-police-security-guards-in-local-district-185952902.html