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Re: Thinking about trading off the Connie...
« Reply #80 on: May 11, 2015, 06:13:07 AM »
Rubberdown, I agree that that trade does not make sense unless you like the ergos on the ZX14 the way it is.

I am going to research the BMW 800 ST.  Look Acosta town and insure.

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Re: Thinking about trading off the Connie...
« Reply #81 on: May 11, 2015, 10:22:45 AM »
Rubberdown, I agree that that trade does not make sense unless you like the ergos on the ZX14 the way it is.

I am going to research the BMW 800 ST.  Look Acosta town and insure.

Man, I am hating the virtual keyboard on my Nexus MeMo pad.  One mistyped letter and it creates whatever it wants.  Instead of "Look Acosta town" it was supposed to  "Look at cost to own and insure"   :o
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Re: Thinking about trading off the Connie...
« Reply #82 on: May 11, 2015, 03:30:59 PM »
Insurance on the ZX14R( hyper bike) up here is just under 3X that of the Concours. Then there's the expendable's such as brakes(more hard stops and corner entries), tires(burn outs hard exits out of corners), tickets ( not going to see all the LEO's, extra points on the licence) to name a few.
Then there is also the ergonomics, like you mention, upgrades to make it more comfortable.
I'm good with what I have.

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Re: Thinking about trading off the Connie...
« Reply #83 on: May 11, 2015, 06:39:22 PM »
Insurance on the ZX14R( hyper bike) up here is just under 3X that of the Concours. Then there's the expendable's such as brakes(more hard stops and corner entries), tires(burn outs hard exits out of corners), tickets ( not going to see all the LEO's, extra points on the licence) to name a few.
Then there is also the ergonomics, like you mention, upgrades to make it more comfortable.
I'm good with what I have.

Insurance on the concours is double the Voyager 1700.  $300 a year for full coverage on the concours.
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Re: Thinking about trading off the Connie...
« Reply #84 on: May 11, 2015, 07:57:28 PM »
Insurance on the concours is double the Voyager 1700.  $300 a year for full coverage on the concours.
I pay $379, for full coverage here.  That's with multi bike, and no citations, and top credit score, etc, discounts with Progressive.  I am a suburb of Houston, and every thing is expensive around here, even in a different town and county...

FWIW, I went in to buy a Yamaha FZ09  last year, and I was quoted $1200 a year for insurance, that's why I now ride a Concours.  1/3 the cost and a damn sight better motorcycle in my garage.  I still want an FJ09 S/T bike, but maybe next year. Man, that's one cute bike, isn't it........
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Re: Thinking about trading off the Connie...
« Reply #85 on: May 11, 2015, 09:14:01 PM »
Here in FL motorcycle insurance is not required, so its almost given away. 4 bikes for me (2 of them sportbikes, 1 KTM) and My Connie with full coverage is 204/yr
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Re: Thinking about trading off the Connie...
« Reply #86 on: May 11, 2015, 09:32:52 PM »
Here in FL motorcycle insurance is not required, so its almost given away. 4 bikes for me (2 of them sportbikes, 1 KTM) and My Connie with full coverage is 204/yr
You are lucky.  Just hope you don't live in Dade County.  Here, it's insane.   In my locale, four bikes, two touring, one sport, and one Harley, cost me $1200+ a year. I don't care.  Lived in Texas 65 years, and will never leave, even if insurance is free, elsewhere.  tp
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Re: Thinking about trading off the Connie...
« Reply #87 on: May 12, 2015, 05:25:41 AM »
Here in FL motorcycle insurance is not required, so its almost given away. 4 bikes for me (2 of them sportbikes, 1 KTM) and My Connie with full coverage is 204/yr

That is unbelievable.  What liability levels do you carry?  The collision component is what makes the Concours more expensive than the rest of my bikes.  I guess statistically, more Connies go down through rider error than cruisers.
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Re: Thinking about trading off the Connie...
« Reply #88 on: May 12, 2015, 05:26:54 AM »

FWIW, I went in to buy a Yamaha FZ09  last year, and I was quoted $1200 a year for insurance, that's why I now ride a Concours.  1/3 the cost and a damn sight better motorcycle in my garage.  I still want an FJ09 S/T bike, but maybe next year. Man, that's one cute bike, isn't it........


I'll stick with the versys over that.  Had a Yamaha triple in 1980.
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Re: Thinking about trading off the Connie...
« Reply #89 on: May 12, 2015, 06:24:39 AM »
I wonder what the insurance difference there is between the C10 and C14, in particular here in Texas.

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Re: Thinking about trading off the Connie...
« Reply #90 on: May 13, 2015, 06:19:00 AM »
I wonder what the insurance difference there is between the C10 and C14, in particular here in Texas.

Get some VIN numbers and call your agent. 
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Re: Thinking about trading off the Connie...
« Reply #91 on: May 13, 2015, 06:26:04 AM »
I just discovered last night that the short lived Honda NT700V was a driveshaft light sport touring bike.  Honda was not on my radar in 2010.  It is popular in Europe, but only made it one year in the US.  There are new ones still available out there. 

Typical Honda reliability and boring, but cheap to own and buy at today's prices.  It was too expensive in 2010 which is why it probably didn't sell well.



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Re: Thinking about trading off the Connie...
« Reply #92 on: May 13, 2015, 07:24:28 AM »
I was one of those few that was interested in one, until the price became known.  It was ridiculously over priced.  Now that I have both a C14 an RT, adding another touring style bike to the garage doesn't make much sense to me.  Will still think more about the new FJ-09 though.
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Re: Thinking about trading off the Connie...
« Reply #93 on: May 13, 2015, 10:33:18 AM »
I just discovered last night that the short lived Honda NT700V was a driveshaft light sport touring bike.  Honda was not on my radar in 2010.  It is popular in Europe, but only made it one year in the US.  There are new ones still available out there.



This article may have helped with it's demise. 

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Re: Thinking about trading off the Connie...
« Reply #94 on: May 13, 2015, 08:38:24 PM »
This article may have helped with it's demise.

Couple that with the price and I can see why.  Honda is now running $5000 off on their CTX 1300.  I would like to test ride one.
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Re: Thinking about trading off the Connie...
« Reply #95 on: May 13, 2015, 09:21:51 PM »
Personally, I would take my FXDC Dyna Harley, over anything Honda ever made as a cruiser, price be damned.  Have owned Honda cruisers, and wouldn't own one ever again.  May get flamed, but don't care.  Your Voyager is as close to a Harley, as Japan has ever gotten, Just my opinion..... tp
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Re: Thinking about trading off the Connie...
« Reply #96 on: May 14, 2015, 06:18:56 AM »
Personally, I would take my FXDC Dyna Harley, over anything Honda ever made as a cruiser, price be damned.  Have owned Honda cruisers, and wouldn't own one ever again.  May get flamed, but don't care.  Your Voyager is as close to a Harley, as Japan has ever gotten, Just my opinion..... tp

I agree.  I wouldn't buy a Honda V-Twin Cruiser. 

The CTX 1300 is the same V4 that Honda puts in the ST1300, but it is retuned for low end torque.  It is a cruiser riding position in a sporty chassis and drivetrain.





I am not really a Honda guy, but they are the only dealer closer than 40 miles away.
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Re: Thinking about trading off the Connie...
« Reply #97 on: May 14, 2015, 06:53:54 AM »
The girl would have to come with the bike before I'd even consider that butt ugly eyesore of a motorcycle.

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Re: Thinking about trading off the Connie...
« Reply #98 on: May 14, 2015, 07:47:58 AM »
Personally, I would take my FXDC Dyna Harley, over anything Honda ever made as a cruiser, price be damned.  Have owned Honda cruisers, and wouldn't own one ever again.  May get flamed, but don't care.  Your Voyager is as close to a Harley, as Japan has ever gotten, Just my opinion..... tp

The best cruiser Honda ever made was the original Valkyrie, 1997-2003. I don't have mine anymore but if I were to go back to a cruiser, I'd get another Valk.

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Re: Thinking about trading off the Connie...
« Reply #99 on: May 14, 2015, 08:38:00 AM »
The best cruiser Honda ever made was the original Valkyrie, 1997-2003. I don't have mine anymore but if I were to go back to a cruiser, I'd get another Valk.
A good friend has a '98, I believe it is, and loves it more than his other bikes.  The new one is uglier than the CTX above.  Wouldn't want one...
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