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The C-14, aka Kawasaki Concours-14, the new one :) => The Bike - C14/GTR 1400 => Topic started by: ZG on June 18, 2011, 08:27:54 PM
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So I was up at my local shop the other day and they now have silver 11 on the floor, first off I will admit that the new 11 silver color does look alot better than the 08 silverdammit IMO... Still slower than black though. ;)
Here's my question:
When Kawi deleted the center storage compartment why did they leave that black plastic piece there, seems really odd and looks kinda bad IMO. Does it serve a purpose or was somebody really just that lazy at Kawi to not redesign that section on the top of the tank?? I don't get it... (http://i1200.photobucket.com/albums/bb336/jaywilcox/confused1.gif)
Any thoughts or opinions on this? (http://i1200.photobucket.com/albums/bb336/jaywilcox/smiley_dunno.gif)
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I am not an expert...but I was lead to believe the plastic pad (with hooks up front) is for a tank bag that Kawasaki was supposed to add to their accessory list for Concours (but never did)
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I loved the center storage box. I do miss it.
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I thought they relocated some relays to that area when they added the locking glove box on the left side of the fairing. I thought this was discussed in the old forum. I have no problem using a tank bag on top of the glove box. Someone has installed one of the older glove boxes on the newer model. We lost a lot of knowledge from the old forum.
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Yeah I would imagine it wouldn't be difficult to add the earlier storage compartment from the earlier model to the new one.
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I think in a past life someone did that but it's been lost in the bit bucket I fear. Also, that 'glove box' was somewhat sneered at in the early days. Brian's blew off his bike on his trip across country in a crosswind. It's all his fault, he should have had a tank bag on top of it. ;)
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Yeah I would imagine it wouldn't be difficult to add the earlier storage compartment from the earlier model to the new one.
My question isn't how to retro fit an 08/09 to it... It's if they deleted the compartment why did Kawi still leave that black plastic piece there in the design and not just get rid of it entirely??
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If I'm not mistaken, the air filter is located under the plastic cover. It also has latch points for a tank bag.
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If I'm not mistaken, the air filter is located under the plastic cover. It also has latch points for a tank bag.
Interesting....they changed the location of the air filter for the 10/11 models?
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My question isn't how to retro fit an 08/09 to it... It's if they deleted the compartment why did Kawi still leave that black plastic piece there in the design and not just get rid of it entirely??
there was a write up on this before the crash, i was going to do this but.........crash........
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The old writeup was pretty good... Essentially, he found a complete assembly from a wrecked bike (because ordering all the pieces separately from Kawi was a PITA)... then he had to do some relay relocating, as there are extras under the plastic in the '10/'11... then there was another mod for some sort of wire or hose that also is there on the '10/'11... But, he got it on there. If you're mechanically inclined, have the time, and can locate a complete assembly (including the metal bracket), go for it. I plan on trying that one during the off season (but I do use the hooks on my '11 for a tank bag).
Air filter is still accessed under the left plastics.
Kawi probably didn't change the tank geometry because it was cheaper to keep the same stamps for the steel, and just tool for a new plastic bit. My opinion, but I think it's plausible.
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this conversation is all to do about nothing. take one of these every night before bed and you will forget about the black box.
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Here's the deal. Kawasaki did a survey before the 2010 model was introduced. Among the suggestions by owners, including some on the old forum was that they didn't want a glove box on the tank. They expressed desire to make it easier to mount a tank bag and so this is the solution that Kawasaki came up with. A pad to mount the tank bag and they relocated the glove box to the side. I have an 08 and prefer the glove box on the tank.
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this conversation is all to do about nothing. take one of these every night before bed and you will forget about the black box.
im sorry but that is ugly........
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Nothing is ever really lost::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:GH_2YjfgreYJ:forum.concours.org/index.php%3Ftopic%3D66845.0+09+tank+storage+on+10+site:forum.concours.org&cd=4&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&source=www.google.com (http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:GH_2YjfgreYJ:forum.concours.org/index.php%3Ftopic%3D66845.0+09+tank+storage+on+10+site:forum.concours.org&cd=4&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&source=www.google.com)
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Nothing is ever really lost::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:GH_2YjfgreYJ:forum.concours.org/index.php%3Ftopic%3D66845.0+09+tank+storage+on+10+site:forum.concours.org&cd=4&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&source=www.google.com (http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:GH_2YjfgreYJ:forum.concours.org/index.php%3Ftopic%3D66845.0+09+tank+storage+on+10+site:forum.concours.org&cd=4&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&source=www.google.com)
Google to the rescue!
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awesome! thanks alpha!! 8)
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I don't think that's gonna help in the long run as it will go poof one day. I've saved the cache onto my PC but I wonder if anyone knows how to recreate it here with pictures and all? I'm going to put it in the Wiki somehow.
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I don't think that's gonna help in the long run as it will go poof one day. I've saved the cache onto my PC but I wonder if anyone knows how to recreate it here with pictures and all? I'm going to put it in the Wiki somehow.
what happens if i do this.....:
How to: I added 08-09 top glove box to my '10
« on: March 04, 2010, 04:39:30 pm »
Before I even got my 2010, I wanted to know if I could add the earlier tank top glove box to my new bike. I ride without my saddlebags and I wanted all the storage I could get.
Forum member "CarlDeBar" was at my house one day on his 09, and we did some experimenting. While we didn't try to really mount his, we did pull his off and looked at the brackets enough to see that it looked pretty doable.
I was in the process of checking to see what the parts would cost from the mother ship (Kawasaki dealer) when "Krautburner" decided to buy his wrecked bike and part it out. We came to a quick agreement on a deal and it showed up last week.
When I pulled off the stock plastic cover and the bracket that had to be changed out, I quickly discovered some things I did not anticipate. Unfazed, I proceeded with the install. First up I had to pull off the bracket on my '10 and bolt on the bracket from the donor bike. This has to be done because the spacing to bolt down the plastic bin are different than the plastic cover on the '10. If you look at the picture below you can see the differences. Where the blue tabs bolt down to the bracket the threaded insert is in the wrong place....
At first I just assumed I'd drill some holes and thread them or use some sort of self tapping screw. But if you look, the bracket has a nasty bend right about where it needed to be drilled. So I decided to proceed and worry about bolting it down later. You'll see in a later picture what I wound up doing.
The second problem was that the plastic tray actually hit the blue tabs and pushed down the blue body work too far. I had to either grind the blue tabs off, or grind away the tray. I decided I didn't want to grind on the tabs as it could cause me to not have a way to keep that part of the body work solid - so I ground away the plastic until the tray actually held down the blue tabs just enough. Then, I put some foam under the blue tabs and just used the tray to hold that piece down. The first picture below shows where I ground away plastic on the underside of the tray, and the next picture shows how it holds the tabs down without them being screwed down any more....
Next up on the list of problems....If you look at the picture below, you'll see that under the tray there are three brake lines heading toward the steering stem. Apparently the two on the right side were on the earlier models, but the one on the left was not. The plastic tray has an indentation to clear the ones on the right, but not the one on the left. As a result, the tray does not sit down all the way.
The fix for this was to put a 1/2" spacer under the front mounting point up by the steering stem. See this picture - there is a white nylon spacer installed to hold the front of the box a little higher...
Because it was being raised, and there is only one bolt in the middle of the front, I was concerned that the front of the box may wiggle around a little with the spacer installed. So I put some foam under the tray to firm it up. In the following picture you can see where I put the foam. BTW, there is a cable in a "loom" going across - that cable is for the radar detector that I installed. I could have rerouted those wires, but with the foam in place it was not a problem to leave them there.
The final result works great. If you really look you can see a bit of a gap between it and the tank. But you really don't notice it. If anything, the flash from the camera and the angle makes the gap look worse in the picture than it really is....
While it sounds like some work - the truth is that even though I had to figure it all out as I went, it only took me maybe an hour and a half to do all the work and have it ready to ride.
Hope this helps.
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No pictures...
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im sorry but that is ugly........
No.....it is fugly.
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Fugly or not...I've got it in the C14 Farkle Wiki. Still need to work on it a bit but by and large it's there....
http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?topic=1872.0 (http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?topic=1872.0)
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So I was up at my local shop the other day and they now have silver 11 on the floor, first off I will admit that the new 11 silver color does look alot better than the 08 silverdammit IMO...
:) Told ya
Still slower than black though. ;)
Still in denial. Tsk tsk ;) We will give you more time to come around
Here's my question: When Kawi deleted the center storage compartment why did they leave that black plastic piece there, seems really odd and looks kinda bad IMO. Does it serve a purpose or was somebody really just that lazy at Kawi to not redesign that section on the top of the tank?? I don't get it...
Keep in mind that the "refresh" for 2010 was not a new bike. Everything they had to change would be a huge cost in retooling. They moved stuff around, using that space for additional electronics or something, I believe... so it was easier/cheaper to just cap it with something the same size/shape.
I always thought the center storage was a bit strange, anyway, since it was so incredibly tiny. Of course the new left storage box isn't exactly huge either, but at least it is keyless lockable. I can fit the Zumo in it- something impossible with the center storage area. I wish they had one on the right also, but that space was reserved for the CA charcoal canister. Damn CA!
Anyway, I don't think it looks bad.
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How to: I added 08-09 top glove box to my '10
« on: March 04, 2010, 04:39:30 pm »
Before I even got my 2010, I wanted to know if I could add the earlier tank top glove box to my new bike. I ride without my saddlebags and I wanted all the storage I could get.
Forum member "CarlDeBar" was at my house one day on his 09, and we did some experimenting. While we didn't try to really mount his, we did pull his off and looked at the brackets enough to see that it looked pretty doable.
I was in the process of checking to see what the parts would cost from the mother ship (Kawasaki dealer) when "Krautburner" decided to buy his wrecked bike and part it out. We came to a quick agreement on a deal and it showed up last week.
When I pulled off the stock plastic cover and the bracket that had to be changed out, I quickly discovered some things I did not anticipate. Unfazed, I proceeded with the install. First up I had to pull off the bracket on my '10 and bolt on the bracket from the donor bike. This has to be done because the spacing to bolt down the plastic bin are different than the plastic cover on the '10. If you look at the picture below you can see the differences. Where the blue tabs bolt down to the bracket the threaded insert is in the wrong place....
(http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc110/2007electraroad/C14topboxbrackets.jpg)
At first I just assumed I'd drill some holes and thread them or use some sort of self tapping screw. But if you look, the bracket has a nasty bend right about where it needed to be drilled. So I decided to proceed and worry about bolting it down later. You'll see in a later picture what I wound up doing.
The second problem was that the plastic tray actually hit the blue tabs and pushed down the blue body work too far. I had to either grind the blue tabs off, or grind away the tray. I decided I didn't want to grind on the tabs as it could cause me to not have a way to keep that part of the body work solid - so I ground away the plastic until the tray actually held down the blue tabs just enough. Then, I put some foam under the blue tabs and just used the tray to hold that piece down. The first picture below shows where I ground away plastic on the underside of the tray, and the next picture shows how it holds the tabs down without them being screwed down any more....
(http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc110/2007electraroad/C14topboxgrindplastic.jpg)
(http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc110/2007electraroad/C14topboxfoamundertab.jpg)
Next up on the list of problems....If you look at the picture below, you'll see that under the tray there are three brake lines heading toward the steering stem. Apparently the two on the right side were on the earlier models, but the one on the left was not. The plastic tray has an indentation to clear the ones on the right, but not the one on the left. As a result, the tray does not sit down all the way.
(http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc110/2007electraroad/C14undertopbox.jpg)
The fix for this was to put a 1/2" spacer under the front mounting point up by the steering stem. See this picture - there is a white nylon spacer installed to hold the front of the box a little higher...
(http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc110/2007electraroad/C14topboxspacerinstalled.jpg)
Because it was being raised, and there is only one bolt in the middle of the front, I was concerned that the front of the box may wiggle around a little with the spacer installed. So I put some foam under the tray to firm it up. In the following picture you can see where I put the foam. BTW, there is a cable in a "loom" going across - that cable is for the radar detector that I installed. I could have rerouted those wires, but with the foam in place it was not a problem to leave them there.
(http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc110/2007electraroad/C14topboxfoam.jpg)
The final result works great. If you really look you can see a bit of a gap between it and the tank. But you really don't notice it. If anything, the flash from the camera and the angle makes the gap look worse in the picture than it really is....
(http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc110/2007electraroad/C14topboxinstalledtop.jpg)
While it sounds like some work - the truth is that even though I had to figure it all out as I went, it only took me maybe an hour and a half to do all the work and have it ready to ride.
Hope this helps.
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Jim,
You can delete the above post if you want, I will leave that up to you.
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Nope, it can stay.
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For me,on my '08,the glove box was a POS.
Strictly an over engineered,useless POS,wouldn't un-latch or latch when you were done.
Wouldn't hold more than a pack of smokes and left my tankbag at an odd attitude.
In a fit of ire I bashed the thing off the tank top one day. Made my own cover.
Maybe PaPaKaw does lurk and listen?(not claiming any responsibility here....)
(http://i378.photobucket.com/albums/oo227/shotgun_bucket/gtr24.jpg)
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Never had any problems with mine. I like it for what it is and nothing more.
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Cool, I'm glad you guys found this (or maybe not). I was thinking about installing the older compartment on my 2010, since it seems you can never have too much storage space, but completely forgot about it over the winter. Now that I've been reminded, I had to go and look up all the parts and pricing. I searched FleaBay, but didn't find any used ones.
It's not clear from the parts fiche if you get everything you need with these part numbers, but anything missing would be small. Hopefully the word ASSEMBLY means the little stuff is included.
16146-0081 $15.89 COVER-ASSY for 2009 KAWASAKI Concours 14 ABS (ZG1400-A9F)
53044-0028 $19.08 TRIM for 2009 KAWASAKI Concours 14 ABS (ZG1400-A9F)
16146-0084 $53.73 COVER-ASSY for 2009 KAWASAKI Concours 14 ABS (ZG1400-A9F)
32099-0039 $42.98 CASE (JKBZGNA1 8A009239 - ) for 2009 KAWASAKI Concours 14 ABS (ZG1400-A9F)
46043-0005 $19.08 KNOB-ASSY for 2009 KAWASAKI Concours 14 ABS (ZG1400-A9F)
Total = $150.76 shipped.
In case anyone is interested, I pulled the part numbers and pricing from http://www.riderschoiceracing.com/ (http://www.riderschoiceracing.com/). I've bought from them before, and they have great prices, excellent service, and free shipping.
Now I just need to take a good look at one on a bike, to see if the functionality and durability is worth the effort and expense.
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Never had any problems with mine. I like it for what it is and nothing more.
+1... I like the center compartment on my 09 and I do use it...
But back to my original statement of this thread, the black "blank" on the 10/11 just looks goofy to me and appears to have no purpose, Kawi should have deleted that piece on the tank all together IMO if it wasn't gonna have the compartment there... :nuts:
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+1... I like the center compartment on my 09 and I do use it...
But back to my original statement of this thread, the black "blank" on the 10/11 just looks goofy to me and appears to have no purpose, Kawi should have deleted that piece on the tank all together IMO if it wasn't gonna have the compartment there... :nuts:
Or just have both compartments.
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But back to my original statement of this thread, the black "blank" on the 10/11 just looks goofy to me and appears to have no purpose, Kawi should have deleted that piece on the tank all together IMO if it wasn't gonna have the compartment there...
But like I just said- that would require retooling and creating a whole new gas tank. That would probably have been far, far more expensive than to just make a new piece of plastic, like they did.
I am more in agreement with mikeboileau, they should have just left it alone AND added the new left-side, auto-locking box. But perhaps there were people complaining about it interfering with tank bags (I wouldn't know, never had one, probably never will).
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Cool, I'm glad you guys found this (or maybe not). I was thinking about installing the older compartment on my 2010, since it seems you can never have too much storage space, but completely forgot about it over the winter. Now that I've been reminded, I had to go and look up all the parts and pricing. I searched FleaBay, but didn't find any used ones.
It's not clear from the parts fiche if you get everything you need with these part numbers, but anything missing would be small. Hopefully the word ASSEMBLY means the little stuff is included.
16146-0081 $15.89 COVER-ASSY for 2009 KAWASAKI Concours 14 ABS (ZG1400-A9F)
53044-0028 $19.08 TRIM for 2009 KAWASAKI Concours 14 ABS (ZG1400-A9F)
16146-0084 $53.73 COVER-ASSY for 2009 KAWASAKI Concours 14 ABS (ZG1400-A9F)
32099-0039 $42.98 CASE (JKBZGNA1 8A009239 - ) for 2009 KAWASAKI Concours 14 ABS (ZG1400-A9F)
46043-0005 $19.08 KNOB-ASSY for 2009 KAWASAKI Concours 14 ABS (ZG1400-A9F)
Total = $150.76 shipped.
In case anyone is interested, I pulled the part numbers and pricing from http://www.riderschoiceracing.com/ (http://www.riderschoiceracing.com/). I've bought from them before, and they have great prices, excellent service, and free shipping.
Now I just need to take a good look at one on a bike, to see if the functionality and durability is worth the effort and expense.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/08-10-Kawasaki-Concours-1400-ZG14-Tank-Cover-Dash-Box-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem2564eef161QQitemZ160607170913QQptZMotorcyclesQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/08-10-Kawasaki-Concours-1400-ZG14-Tank-Cover-Dash-Box-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem2564eef161QQitemZ160607170913QQptZMotorcyclesQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories)
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/08-10-Kawasaki-Concours-1400-ZG14-Tank-Cover-Dash-Box-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem2564eef161QQitemZ160607170913QQptZMotorcyclesQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/08-10-Kawasaki-Concours-1400-ZG14-Tank-Cover-Dash-Box-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem2564eef161QQitemZ160607170913QQptZMotorcyclesQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories)
He wants a lot for that.
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But like I just said- that would require retooling and creating a whole new gas tank. That would probably have been far, far more expensive than to just make a new piece of plastic, like they did.
I am more in agreement with mikeboileau, they should have just left it alone AND added the new left-side, auto-locking box. But perhaps there were people complaining about it interfering with tank bags (I wouldn't know, never had one, probably never will).
Yes, but the subsequently larger capacity fuel tank would address one one of MY complaints....
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Yes, but the subsequently larger capacity fuel tank would address one one of MY complaints....
You do have a valid point...
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You do have a valid point...
+1
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+1
+2...
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/08-10-Kawasaki-Concours-1400-ZG14-Tank-Cover-Dash-Box-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem2564eef161QQitemZ160607170913QQptZMotorcyclesQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/08-10-Kawasaki-Concours-1400-ZG14-Tank-Cover-Dash-Box-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem2564eef161QQitemZ160607170913QQptZMotorcyclesQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories)
Wow, they're proud of that one. For $25 more, I think I would just buy a new one, so I know all the plastic is not discolored or scratched up (looks like some large scratches in the lid). I typically expect used stuff to be closer to half of new, unless it looks just like new, but maybe that's just me.
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+2...
+3. You can always use a little more fuel (especially since I ran out 4 block from the station I was headed to the other night :-X).
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Never had any problems with mine. I like it for what it is and nothing more.
After riding bikes without any storage for 38 years I love the little glove box on my 09.
I keep a flashlight, ezpass, spare fob batteries, cell phone, pack of smokes, SAE to cig lighter adapter, and a spare set of fob bats in there.
Maybe y'all don't know how to pack? :-X
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+3. You can always use a little more fuel (especially since I ran out 4 block from the station I was headed to the other night :-X ).
:yikes:
Wow! 4 blocks is a long push with this heavy beast!!
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:yikes:
Wow! 4 blocks is a long push with this heavy beast!!
I actually considered pushing it for a moment, but there was no shoulder, and cars were constantly whizzing by. Instead, I called a buddy who lived about 20 blocks from where I was, and he had a can with some gas and a funnel. I suppose that's cheating, but oh well. I was on my way home from work, and didn't feel like expending the effort.
I can say to the masses, when it runs out, it dies, then after restarting will run for another couple of blocks, and then she's done. Consider that first cough your only warning before parking it.
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Never have understood the point of the tank-mount glove box. I just assumed Kawie was hiding some design flaw with the thing. Isn't deep enough for anything useful, not that the fairing pocket is any improvement.
And it gets in the way of tank bags. I prefer the clean look of the 2010/11 version without any ugly plastic wart, thank you very much.
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Im soo glad Kaw removed it from the '10 & '11's, Id much rather just use my tank bag.
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I wish someone would do a carbon fiber piece. It would be better than the cheap plastic stuff Kawasaki crafted the thing from... If it was really a bit deeper and better made I think it would be a great idea. I have the 09 and really hated the look of the center box. Mostly it's cheap looking but I love the usefulness of the piece, so as I don't do tank bags I like the thing... I have considered doing a custom box myself. I would do it from Cocobola wood which polishes like rosewood. My idea was strips of Ebony about 1/8" wide in between 1" wide cocobola wood, something feeling like it came off a wooden speed boat. It would have to have a nice mechanism for hinge... I would buy a carbon fiber unit if someone could do it...
I think the carbon fiber piece with a cool engine turned aluminum section would be really cool... maybe with an temp gauge and plug for accessories and IPod. It could be way better...
Ok now someone do it and offer it for sale.
vivo
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I wish someone would do a carbon fiber piece. It would be better than the cheap plastic stuff Kawasaki crafted the thing from... If it was really a bit deeper and better made I think it would be a great idea. I have the 09 and really hated the look of the center box. Mostly it's cheap looking but I love the usefulness of the piece, so as I don't do tank bags I like the thing... I have considered doing a custom box myself. I would do it from Cocobola wood which polishes like rosewood. My idea was strips of Ebony about 1/8" wide in between 1" wide cocobola wood, something feeling like it came off a wooden speed boat. It would have to have a nice mechanism for hinge... I would buy a carbon fiber unit if someone could do it...
I think the carbon fiber piece with a cool engine turned aluminum section would be really cool... maybe with an temp gauge and plug for accessories and IPod. It could be way better...
Ok now someone do it and offer it for sale.
vivo
Been done, a member here has it in carbon fiber, looks sweet IMO!!
http://customhydrographics.com/ (http://customhydrographics.com/)
(http://i1200.photobucket.com/albums/bb336/jaywilcox/P1010016_lg.jpg)
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WOW!
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WOW!
Is RIGHT! :thumbs:
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Is RIGHT! :thumbs:
Maybe a little overdone there, but it has given me some ideas......
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Maybe a little overdone there, but it has given me some ideas......
??? A carbon fiber cheese head? ;)
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??? A carbon fiber cheese head? ;)
Jealous?
8)
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Jealous?
8)
Yes.
I'm a Browns fan... :hitfan: :banghead: :'(
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Yes.
I'm a Browns fan... :hitfan: :banghead: :'(
I've spent the last 8 years working with a Browns fan. She has PST. Permanently Sucky Team.
She's always cautiously optimistic in August with the pre-season games, then gets progressively more morose and depressed as the season goes on. By December, she'd be fine with the entire NFL disappearing into a black hole. And she's an actual fan who knows the game and follows the sports talk shows (former cheerleader).
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Yes.
I'm a Browns fan... :hitfan: :banghead: :'(
You have my sympathy......
:rotflmao:
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no affiliation but here are examples of texturing the plastic..
http://www.hydroimaging.com/index.html (http://www.hydroimaging.com/index.html)
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You have my sympathy......
:rotflmao:
Yayaya... Your Packers were in quite a drought themselves in the 70's and 80's... We'll be back in the hunt someday, I hate having the Ravens and Steelers in my division though, makes it tough to even make the play-offs... :banghead:
I've spent the last 8 years working with a Browns fan. She has PST. Permanently Sucky Team.
She's always cautiously optimistic in August with the pre-season games, then gets progressively more morose and depressed as the season goes on. By December, she'd be fine with the entire NFL disappearing into a black hole. And she's an actual fan who knows the game and follows the sports talk shows (former cheerleader).
Cheerleader eh, any pics... :popcorn:
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I wish someone would do a carbon fiber piece. It would be better than the cheap plastic stuff Kawasaki crafted the thing from... If it was really a bit deeper and better made I think it would be a great idea. I have the 09 and really hated the look of the center box. Mostly it's cheap looking but I love the usefulness of the piece, so as I don't do tank bags I like the thing... I have considered doing a custom box myself. I would do it from Cocobola wood which polishes like rosewood. My idea was strips of Ebony about 1/8" wide in between 1" wide cocobola wood, something feeling like it came off a wooden speed boat. It would have to have a nice mechanism for hinge... I would buy a carbon fiber unit if someone could do it...
I think the carbon fiber piece with a cool engine turned aluminum section would be really cool... maybe with an temp gauge and plug for accessories and IPod. It could be way better...
Ok now someone do it and offer it for sale.
vivo
I like the idea of the wood box only if it is tasetfully done
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I like the idea of the wood box only if it is tasetfully done
Speaking of "wood" and "tasty", me like your avatar... :P
This thread is toast, time to move it to the open forum Jim... ;)
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Cheerleader eh, any pics... :popcorn:
Pictures? After dissing my Packers? Born in Wisconsin, bleed green and gold!
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Pictures? After dissing my Packers? Born in Wisconsin, bleed green and gold!
Definitely not dissing the Pack JJ, I was always a Farve fan and thoroughly enjoyed those years, just playing with Mike and jealous of the success compared to my dawgs... :'(
:grouphug:
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<<<<what success?
;D
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<<<<what success?
;D
Shouldn't you be battering and deep-frying some sausage... ???
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Shouldn't you be battering and deep-frying some sausage... ???
Why, you hungry?
:popcorn:
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Why, you hungry?
:popcorn:
Actually yes! I used to fly into Madison once a quarter, we had a company we bought there in Lake Mills, I always liked the deep fried sausage, but would gain 10 lbs every trip there... :o ;)
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Actually yes! I used to fly into Madison once a quarter, we had a company we bought there in Lake Mills, I always liked the deep fried sausage, but would gain 10 lbs every trip there... :o ;)
We have lots of pasties up here.....I'm on the border of the U.P.
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U.P. Pasties (http://www.gulfcoastfishingconnection.com/forums/attachments/forum63/15004d1303230100-pasty3.jpg)
Texas Pasties (http://static.igossip.com/photos/hot_girls_in_pasties_llcoolrobb_66824_pastease_4_girls_in_pasties_in_boat_at_the_river.jpg)
yeah I know, I'm :offtopic:
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U.P. Pasties (http://www.gulfcoastfishingconnection.com/forums/attachments/forum63/15004d1303230100-pasty3.jpg)
Texas Pasties (http://static.igossip.com/photos/hot_girls_in_pasties_llcoolrobb_66824_pastease_4_girls_in_pasties_in_boat_at_the_river.jpg)
yeah I know, I'm :offtopic:
Hmmm.... I think I'll go with the TX ones... ;) :P