C-15 possibly in the making.......?

[jjsC6]

I hate the linked brakes and would cancel them in a second, given a chance. Way too grabby when stuck in traffic. My 2008 never had any of the feelings the linked brakes bring.

I hate them on the Concours as well, but my point is that Kawasaki is the only mfr that managed to f**k them up.  I read a lot of posts by folks who don't like them in principle - makes no sense.

[ZG]

I hate them on the Concours as well, but my point is that Kawasaki is the only mfr that managed to f**k them up.  I read a lot of posts by folks who don't like them in principle - makes no sense.

I disagree JJ, I didn't like them on my 06 Honda VFR.
 
Maybe it's just preference...
 

[rtarp1]

@ lather
I have no interest in debating ABS, we have already been there. And I won't even argue that it is ONE of the best SAFETY features but THE BEST EVER? Think about overhead cams, tubeless tires, single shocks, four valve heads, digital fuel injection, radial tires, KIPASS!
ABS is overrated in my opinion. There are many many ways to get hurt bad or killed on a motorcycle, ABS addresses only one and in a very limited  set of situations. My guess is that many of you have a dangerous false sense of security. Oops, I said I didn't want to debate ABS!

are overhead cams a safety feature? how about 4 valve heads, i never heard any one say " thank god for those 4 valve heads and the fuel injection they really saved my ass"     Try reading what you type before you hit reply.    ABS is the best safety feature ever put on a bike.

[VirginiaJim]

Calm it down.

[rtarp1]

Im calm.  I got told my post was the silliest thing to hit the forums. so i read on and discover her last post of nonsense so i had to comment .   

[lather]

Calmly:  Rtarp1, re-read your own post, "safety feature" were MY words. YOU said:"ABS is the best feature ever to hit the motorcycle ", no mention of safety in your post and this thread was originally not about safety at all. I can certainly understand why you are so fond of ABS. 

@ lather
I have no interest in debating ABS, we have already been there. And I won't even argue that it is ONE of the best SAFETY features but THE BEST EVER? Think about overhead cams, tubeless tires, single shocks, four valve heads, digital fuel injection, radial tires, KIPASS!
ABS is overrated in my opinion. There are many many ways to get hurt bad or killed on a motorcycle, ABS addresses only one and in a very limited  set of situations. My guess is that many of you have a dangerous false sense of security. Oops, I said I didn't want to debate ABS!

are overhead cams a safety feature? how about 4 valve heads, i never heard any one say " thank god for those 4 valve heads and the fuel injection they really saved my ass"     Try reading what you type before you hit reply.    ABS is the best safety feature ever put on a bike.

[lather]

Im calm.  I got told my post was the silliest thing to hit the forums. so i read on and discover her last post of nonsense so i had to comment .   

I said silliest in a while. I changed it after re-reading what I typed before hiting reply. I have been here nearly 5 years and there has been tons of silliness.

[rtarp1]

did i have to say safety?  I'll try to be more clear in the future. Silliest in awhile is sooo much better, thanks.
   Anyway i love ABS and wont be buying a bike without it ever again, shouldnt be a problem since most high end bikes come with it standard anyway.     
       Your sentence     " And I won't even argue that it is ONE of the best SAFETY features but THE BEST EVER? Think about overhead cams, tubeless tires, single shocks, four valve heads, digital fuel injection, radial tires, KIPASS!
     you said it wasnt the best safety feature ever and you then used the examples of better ones which arent safety fetures.  Now try and give me an example of a better "safety" feature than ABS, i cant think of any except  a headlight

[lather]

I have to admit my wording was not real clear either. To clarify, the point I intended to and still dispute is that "ABS is the best feature to hit motorcycling".

[rtarp1]

 agreed.

[VirginiaJim]

Im calm.  I got told my post was the silliest thing to hit the forums. so i read on and discover her last post of nonsense so i had to comment .   

Her?

[VirginiaJim]

I said silliest in a while. I changed it after re-reading what I typed before hiting reply. I have been here nearly 5 years and there has been tons of silliness.

True enough.

[VirginiaJim]

Add factory cruise control and I'll kiss my dealer on the lips.

Name of the dealer, please, just in case.

[jjsC6]

Name of the dealer, please, just in case.

Well, now that your bring that up, the dealer nearest me has a somewhat attractive lady who I spoke with once.  And while its not the dealer I bought my bike from, it's probably the one I'd go with for the kiss 

[curly]

I remember when 500cc was a monster engine. If you had that you were a king. Now it seems we have just gone plain crazy with the bigger is better thing.

I have found over the years that the 50- 90 hp range is more than enough to keep even the most spirited riders happy. 130hp is just overkill to me.

But, I'm getting old, my next bike will be a Suzuki Bergman

[gPink]

I remember when 500cc was a monster engine. If you had that you were a king. Now it seems we have just gone plain crazy with the bigger is better thing.

I have found over the years that the 50- 90 hp range is more than enough to keep even the most spirited riders happy. 130hp is just overkill to me.

But, I'm getting old, my next bike will be a Suzuki Bergman

2009 C-14 in the faster color black

[lather]

Her?

I think he was referring to Gabrielle, my granddaughter, who types my posts for me.

[martin_14]

I think he was referring to Gabrielle, my granddaughter, who types my posts for me.

 

[lather]

I remember when 500cc was a monster engine. If you had that you were a king. Now it seems we have just gone plain crazy with the bigger is better thing.

I have found over the years that the 50- 90 hp range is more than enough to keep even the most spirited riders happy. 130hp is just overkill to me.

But, I'm getting old, my next bike will be a Suzuki Bergman

It depends on how you use your machine. If you are a weekend warrior hp is king. On 3000+ mile road trips I find myself envying my Honda & BMW buds 50+ mpg. Not to mention their larger tanks!

[jjsC6]

Full details of the 2012 ZX here...

http://www.bikeland.org/board/viewthread.php?FID=27&TID=63965&set_time=1318252910#2012-kawasaki-ninja-zx14r