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Offline captainmarko

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2012-where is the "Mode" switch for ECO mode?
« on: November 01, 2012, 12:14:52 PM »
This might sound stupid, but according to the manual, there is supposed to be a "Mode" switch on the right handlebar for switching into and out of ECO mode.  Such a switch does not exist on my bike.

Am I missing something?
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Re: 2012-where is the "Mode" switch for ECO mode?
« Reply #1 on: November 01, 2012, 12:17:24 PM »
EDIT::: Wrong answer removed. You're welcome. (At least I got us to the left bar  :o)


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Re: 2012-where is the "Mode" switch for ECO mode?
« Reply #2 on: November 01, 2012, 12:35:00 PM »
In the frontal part of the left handler, there is a button called MODE. It is similar to the K-ABS and K-TRC. Turn the engine and before you leave, press MODE for a few seconds. You will have it at the screen. You cannot change it while driving, as you turn to the other informations, such as tire pressure, battery and so on.

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Re: 2012-where is the "Mode" switch for ECO mode?
« Reply #3 on: November 01, 2012, 01:38:19 PM »
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Thanks, Carlao!  Never would have thought to look there.
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Re: 2012-where is the "Mode" switch for ECO mode?
« Reply #4 on: November 01, 2012, 01:54:45 PM »
Oh... the stupid "this should have been "flash-to-pass" button. Been a while since I've been on my bike.
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Re: 2012-where is the "Mode" switch for ECO mode?
« Reply #5 on: November 01, 2012, 03:07:21 PM »
In the frontal part of the left handler, there is a button called MODE. It is similar to the K-ABS and K-TRC. Turn the engine and before you leave, press MODE for a few seconds. You will have it at the screen. You cannot change it while driving, as you turn to the other informations, such as tire pressure, battery and so on.

I engage mine all the time while driving. I have a 2010 ( i doubt the 2012 is different). Just hold the mode for 4 - 5 secs and ECO appears on the screen next to the ODO.
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Re: 2012-where is the "Mode" switch for ECO mode?
« Reply #6 on: November 01, 2012, 03:23:46 PM »
I engage mine all the time while driving. I have a 2010 ( i doubt the 2012 is different). Just hold the mode for 4 - 5 secs and ECO appears on the screen next to the ODO.

+1, It's the traction control that can not be changed while driving. I turn ECO on and off all the time depending if I need a bit more power for passing, etc.... ;)

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Re: 2012-where is the "Mode" switch for ECO mode?
« Reply #7 on: November 01, 2012, 03:40:09 PM »
+1, It's the traction control that can not be changed while driving. I turn ECO on and off all the time depending if I need a bit more power for passing, etc.... ;)

Theoretically, you shouldn't have to drop out of ECO to gain access to full power.  It will do that automatically based on throttle position & RPM.  You start to drive assertively, BAM, ECO drops off.
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Re: 2012-where is the "Mode" switch for ECO mode?
« Reply #8 on: November 01, 2012, 04:37:00 PM »
Theoretically, you shouldn't have to drop out of ECO to gain access to full power.  It will do that automatically based on throttle position & RPM.  You start to drive assertively, BAM, ECO drops off.

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Re: 2012-where is the "Mode" switch for ECO mode?
« Reply #9 on: November 01, 2012, 07:34:21 PM »
Yes, I agree, in theory, but not in my actual experience???

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Re: 2012-where is the "Mode" switch for ECO mode?
« Reply #10 on: November 01, 2012, 11:54:38 PM »
+1, It's the traction control that can not be changed while driving. I turn ECO on and off all the time depending if I need a bit more power for passing, etc.... ;)

Uhm, yes you can turn K-TRC on or off while riding, I do it all the time, especially when I'm about to do something that might result in the front tire coming up.

You can also change in and out of ECO mode anytime except during hard acceleration (and maybe above 80MPH, as I recall).  You canot change linked braking modes while moving.
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Re: 2012-where is the "Mode" switch for ECO mode?
« Reply #11 on: November 02, 2012, 06:01:49 AM »
Uhm, yes you can turn K-TRC on or off while riding, I do it all the time, especially when I'm about to do something that might result in the front tire coming up.

You can also change in and out of ECO mode anytime except during hard acceleration (and maybe above 80MPH, as I recall).  You canot change linked braking modes while moving.

Indeed CX, thanks for the correction. :)

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Re: 2012-where is the "Mode" switch for ECO mode?
« Reply #12 on: November 05, 2012, 07:28:36 AM »
At the 2012 C14, we can change some informations at the display while driving, but not the ABS, and the ECO mode only in movement and the K-TRC at any time.

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Re: 2012-where is the "Mode" switch for ECO mode?
« Reply #13 on: November 05, 2012, 01:47:51 PM »
It's amusing how many wrong answer (and statements) there have been on this thread!

First, I'm sure the manual does not say that the mode switch is on the right handlebar.

Second, you do not push the K-TRC button to engage the ECO mode

Third, yes you can engage it while moving

Fourth, the traction control can be engaged/disengaged while moving

The linked braking mode cannot be changed while moving though.

BTW, yes I'm aware that some of these were caught already.  Also, it is true that the bike will exit the ECO mode automatically (but not permanently) as you accelerate past a set throttle position and/or RPM.  But if I accelerate gradually from a low RPM I sometimes feel the transition as a "bump" in power that I prefer not to have when negotiating turns so I usually take it out of ECO mode if I'm on a section of road with a number of tight curves.
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Re: 2012-where is the "Mode" switch for ECO mode?
« Reply #14 on: November 05, 2012, 02:43:24 PM »
WOW!  I'm glad I read my manual.  ::)
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Re: 2012-where is the "Mode" switch for ECO mode?
« Reply #15 on: November 05, 2012, 02:58:22 PM »
I  belive I informed correctly. Also, the manual says that the ECO mode removes power form the engine, while driving economically does not. When using ECO and driving eco, we are saving a lot of fuel.

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Re: 2012-where is the "Mode" switch for ECO mode?
« Reply #16 on: November 05, 2012, 03:11:18 PM »
It's amusing how many wrong answer (and statements) there have been on this thread!

First, I'm sure the manual does not say that the mode switch is on the right handlebar.

Second, you do not push the K-TRC button to engage the ECO mode

Third, yes you can engage it while moving

Fourth, the traction control can be engaged/disengaged while moving

The linked braking mode cannot be changed while moving though.

BTW, yes I'm aware that some of these were caught already.  Also, it is true that the bike will exit the ECO mode automatically (but not permanently) as you accelerate past a set throttle position and/or RPM.  But if I accelerate gradually from a low RPM I sometimes feel the transition as a "bump" in power that I prefer not to have when negotiating turns so I usually take it out of ECO mode if I'm on a section of road with a number of tight curves.

+1 But in all fairness, and possibly adding to the confusion, there are two "ECO" modes, the automatic one indicated by the ceo (Economy Riding Indicator), and the manually activated Eco mode (Fuel Economy Assistance Mode). And per the manual the automatic one shuts on and off based on rpm, speed, etc ,while the manually operated one can only be activated while RPM is less that 6K, throttle less than 30% and speed less than 152mph, but does not shut off automatically, in fact there is a note that states "Activating the fuel economy assistance mode decreases horsepower."

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Re: 2012-where is the "Mode" switch for ECO mode?
« Reply #17 on: November 05, 2012, 03:16:50 PM »
+1 But in all fairness, and possibly adding to the confusion, there are two "ECO" modes, the automatic one indicated by the ceo (Economy Riding Indicator), and the manually activated Eco mode (Fuel Economy Assistance Mode). And per the manual the automatic one shuts on and off based on rpm, speed, etc ,while the manually operated one can only be activated while RPM is less that 6K, throttle less than 30% and speed less than 152mph, but does not shut off automatically, in fact there is a note that states "Activating the fuel economy assistance mode decreases horsepower."

The automatic indicator is not an Eco "mode", it is just displaying information to the rider saying that you are operating the bike (driving)  in a Eco-friendly manner.  When the Eco indicator is on, it is not changing anything.  It does nothing else.  It cannot be turned on or off.  It is just informational, like your fuel gauge.

When "Eco Mode" is turned on (manually) AND displayed, it means the ECU is, indeed, leaning out the mixture to maximize fuel efficiency.  If you drive in an un-Eco-friendly fashion (turn the throttle too fast, or raise the RPM too high) it will temporarily disable Eco Mode until conditions return to being Eco-friendly :)
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Re: 2012-where is the "Mode" switch for ECO mode?
« Reply #18 on: November 05, 2012, 03:30:38 PM »
The automatic indicator is not an Eco "mode", it is just displaying information to the rider saying that you are operating the bike (driving)  in a Eco-friendly manner.  When the Eco indicator is on, it is not changing anything.  It does nothing else.  It cannot be turned on or off.  It is just informational, like your fuel gauge.
Point taken, I probably phrased that wrong in regards to it being a "mode".

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When "Eco Mode" is turned on (manually) AND displayed, it means the ECU is, indeed, leaning out the mixture to maximize fuel efficiency.  If you drive in an un-Eco-friendly fashion (turn the throttle too fast, or raise the RPM too high) it will temporarily disable Eco Mode until conditions return to being Eco-friendly :)
I can not find any documentation stating that this mode turns off when riding un-Eco-friendly  :)

My main point was that there may be added confusion since there are two display indicators that are labeled ECO.
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Re: 2012-where is the "Mode" switch for ECO mode?
« Reply #19 on: November 05, 2012, 03:53:35 PM »
Your slower, late model bikes seem complicated.