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Title: magnet attached to center stand???
Post by: spotcw on May 22, 2011, 10:14:33 PM
I put my 08 C14 on its center stand for the first time today (bought it used in Nov 09) and saw a small black box zip tied to the center stand. I cut it off thinking it was a spare key or something but it doesn't open up. I noticed that it was magnetic when I had my needle nose pliers on it to open it up. Does anybody know what this would be?
Title: Re: magnet attached to center stand???
Post by: GPz1100 on May 22, 2011, 10:20:58 PM
used to trip traffic sensors. called red light or green light...something like that. 2 works better that 1
Title: Re: magnet attached to center stand???
Post by: maxtog on May 22, 2011, 10:56:15 PM
used to trip traffic sensors. called red light or green light...something like that. 2 works better that 1

Yep, that is exactly what it is.  I wonder if they really do work, though.  The instructions on those things say you have to drive to a certain position on the sensor, too.  Seems kinda stupid, unless you already knew it was a problem light and were prepared to position yourself a certain way.
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Post by: Conrad on May 23, 2011, 05:19:21 AM
Jim uses one, I'm surprised that he didn't comment on this when he moved it. I don't know if these things work though. I have a couple of problem lights that I have to deal with. I check to see if a car is in that turn lane before I go that way. No car and I go another route.
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Post by: Squishman on May 23, 2011, 05:54:20 AM
In Minnesota, you can go if it doesn't trip the light. As long as you can safely go.
Title: Re: magnet attached to center stand???
Post by: 2fast on May 23, 2011, 07:52:32 AM
I don't think anyone in MN stops for any lights or signs anymore :-[

I think the tests I have seen on the magic magnets showed that they did nothing.
Title: Re: magnet attached to center stand???
Post by: nosaint7 on May 23, 2011, 08:49:59 AM
Yup - its supposed to help trip signal light sensors.  Several states (including Oklahoma) have recently passed "proceed on red light" laws for motorcycles.   Your have to stop, wait a bit, and then "if safe" - you can go.  If your state hasn't done this yet, email your state congressman/senator and tell them you want the law/s updated.   
Title: Re: magnet attached to center stand???
Post by: JetJock on May 23, 2011, 01:23:05 PM
I used on my Interceptor and it seemed to work at a pesky light I had to go through regularly. Without it I could sit there for 5 minutes; with it, seemed to change in a minute or two. Did it actually work as intended or did the DOT fix something at their end? I dunno.
Title: Re: magnet attached to center stand???
Post by: sherob on May 23, 2011, 01:50:09 PM
I'd put in neutral... drop my kickstand down, lean the bike over... that did the trick on those lights that wouldn't sense the bike.... ride up crosswise... or along the inner line of the sensor would work too.

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Post by: mikeboileau on May 23, 2011, 02:01:20 PM
I wonder if those things really work......like deer whistles.
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Post by: VirginiaJim on May 23, 2011, 04:47:57 PM
I'd put in neutral... drop my kickstand down, lean the bike over... that did the trick on those lights that wouldn't sense the bike.... ride up crosswise... or along the inner line of the sensor would work too.

Unfortunately I can't handle that.  I wind up cutting the bike off.  Too many steps in the right order.  I have several magnets mounted below the bike.  One didn't seem to be enough for me to trip the lights.  I've got two additional magnets from PC disk drives glued to the exhaust pipe.  Didn't have much luck with the 'Green Light Trigger'.  Waste of money IMHO.  Disk drives are free to me.   I give them to my grandson and he takes them apart for me.  Also, as long as I can see the trigger lines and put the bike over top of them I don't have issues either.  The problem is where you can't see the lines....
Title: Re: magnet attached to center stand???
Post by: sherob on May 23, 2011, 04:56:16 PM
I hardly run into those type of lights anymore out here in CO... in TX, they were pretty bad in some of the smaller towns or less traveled intersections in Houston.
Title: Re: magnet attached to center stand???
Post by: sas mayhem on May 23, 2011, 05:09:04 PM
You can get the m here if your bike is not equipped with one.  http://www.cyclegear.com/spgm.cfm?L1=&L2=&L3=&L4=&item=TUC_65-3998 (http://www.cyclegear.com/spgm.cfm?L1=&L2=&L3=&L4=&item=TUC_65-3998)

Cheers
Ron
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Post by: jim_de_hunter on May 23, 2011, 07:23:22 PM
If I can find the sensor, I can trip it by getting the engine over it.  The one sensor that's been paved over is right next to the cop shop.  I've gone through that light when I couldn't trip it.
Title: Re: magnet attached to center stand???
Post by: Outback_Jon on May 23, 2011, 08:12:37 PM
I wonder if those things really work......like deer whistles.

I've tried and tried and couldn't get the deer to blow into those things...
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Post by: JetJock on May 23, 2011, 08:40:15 PM
I've tried and tried and couldn't get the deer to blow into those things...

 ;D
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Post by: Cold Streak on May 24, 2011, 03:33:10 PM

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I've tried and tried and couldn't get the deer to blow into those things...


Maybe you were putting it in the wrong end? :o
Title: Re: magnet attached to center stand???
Post by: Conrad on May 24, 2011, 04:03:40 PM

Maybe you were putting it in the wrong end? :o

 :rotflmao:
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Post by: B.D.F. on May 24, 2011, 05:26:37 PM
I think if you do that you might get a 'sour note'.

Brian



Maybe you were putting it in the wrong end? :o
Title: Re: magnet attached to center stand???
Post by: MiniCog on May 24, 2011, 08:42:20 PM
I wonder if those things really work......like deer whistles.

If only they were real...  HEY!  I think they have something kinda like a whistle, they're called... Antlers?  Bang them together and BOOM!  Deer pop up.  It's amazing.   :o


Maybe you were putting it in the wrong end? :o
 

 :yikes:

Wasn't expecting that!  :rotflmao:

Title: Re: magnet attached to center stand???
Post by: koval68 on May 24, 2011, 08:46:48 PM
  I have several magnets mounted below the bike.  One didn't seem to be enough for me to trip the lights.
You need a custom license plate frame to go with all those magnets....
(http://www.carstickers.com/prodimages/chick_magnet_license_plate_frame.jpg)
Title: Re: magnet attached to center stand???
Post by: VirginiaJim on May 25, 2011, 03:58:23 AM
You need a custom license plate frame to go with all those magnets....


That kind of magnet attracts troubles I don't need...
Title: Re: magnet attached to center stand???
Post by: Conrad on May 25, 2011, 05:09:32 AM
That kind of magnet attracts troubles I don't need...

Of the worst kind too!
Title: Re: magnet attached to center stand???
Post by: ManWorkinghere on May 25, 2011, 07:15:20 AM
I wonder if those things really work......like deer whistles.
Hey Mike,

Here in Wisconsin you can leave a stoplight on red after waiting 90(?) seconds for the light to change.  But I paid $10 for one Green Light Trigger that turned out to be just a small 1/4x1" magnet.  Underwhelming.  Zip-tied to centerstand. Not much difference IMHO.

Matt
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Post by: koval68 on May 25, 2011, 08:57:55 AM
That kind of magnet attracts troubles I don't need...
...............and she said(her beautiful eyes reflecting in shades of color I can't imagine): Oh Jimmy! You're breaking my heart.I'm no trouble at all. I'm just an ordinary girl looking for some fun. Please, take me for a spin on your beautiful bike...
(http://lh5.ggpht.com/_6GQRBJwJ37M/ShmX0k4dWMI/AAAAAAAAQ_Q/9YEiAmYwnmU/100500image009.jpg)

Jim didn't need any more convincing.....
(http://www.thephotofun.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/motor5.jpg)
Title: Re: magnet attached to center stand???
Post by: Conrad on May 25, 2011, 09:24:44 AM
...............and she said(her beautiful eyes reflecting in shades of color I can't imagine): Oh Jimmy! You're breaking my heart.I'm no trouble at all. I'm just an ordinary girl looking for some fun. Please, take me for a spin on your beautiful bike...
(http://lh5.ggpht.com/_6GQRBJwJ37M/ShmX0k4dWMI/AAAAAAAAQ_Q/9YEiAmYwnmU/100500image009.jpg)

Jim didn't need any more convincing.....
(http://www.thephotofun.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/motor5.jpg)

In Jim's defense, how could one refuse those eyes and pouty lips?
Title: Re: magnet attached to center stand???
Post by: koval68 on May 25, 2011, 09:29:58 AM
In Jim's defense, how could one refuse those eyes and pouty lips?
My point, exactly!  :chugbeer:
Title: Re: magnet attached to center stand???
Post by: mikeboileau on May 25, 2011, 09:52:05 AM
Wow this thread is turning!

 ;D
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Post by: GVmerle on May 25, 2011, 02:17:46 PM
I had one of those magnets and it never would trip a light.  Worthless in my opinion.
Title: Re: magnet attached to center stand???
Post by: cc_ryder on May 25, 2011, 05:34:56 PM
I don't know if the ones they sell for traffic lights are powerful enough.
A 1X2X1/8" neodymium magnet does work. Just watch your fingers when you slap it on the frame, they are very strong. It creates a magnetic field equal to all the iron you have in your car so the sensor will detect the bike. If you have an old VCR, you can find one under the main drive motor. It should be large enough.
Title: Re: magnet attached to center stand???
Post by: Mister Tee on May 26, 2011, 09:31:17 AM
I don't know if the ones they sell for traffic lights are powerful enough.
A 1X2X1/8" neodymium magnet does work. Just watch your fingers when you slap it on the frame, they are very strong. It creates a magnetic field equal to all the iron you have in your car so the sensor will detect the bike. If you have an old VCR, you can find one under the main drive motor. It should be large enough.

So could that create a new problem, like sucking nails and manhole covers up to the bottom of your bike?
Title: Re: magnet attached to center stand???
Post by: Outback_Jon on May 26, 2011, 02:49:57 PM
So could that create a new problem, like sucking nails and manhole covers up to the bottom of your bike?

Well, sucking the nails up before they reach your back tire would be a good thing.  Manhole covers, not so much...
Title: Re: magnet attached to center stand???
Post by: cc_ryder on May 27, 2011, 08:18:57 AM
You can buy larger ones that would pick up pieces of ferrous material as you drive but they are much more expensive than your normal iron type magnets. The biggest hazard with the large ones is loss of digits, and I don't mean the numeral type.
I was just thinking how they would be helpful in trapping rust in the fuel system. If you had a petcock with a bowl on the bottom you could trap not only water but rust as well.