Cottonwood Pass.
Second pix very familiar. I live here, so am somewhat used to taking tourist pix of the whole family. This time, they were all standing near the BMW? to the right in your pix. Told dad he could be in the pix too, and he handed me the camera. I motioned for all to shift to the left, I followed them. Then motioned all to shift to the right, I followed them. Then motioned them to step to the rear, I moved further away. By this time, they figured it out, and I took one of several pix. I looked at the screen of the camera and said "perfect, but guy in front close your zipper." One or two looked down