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Offline Rembrant

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I've decided to switch from liquid gasolne to vapors...
« on: September 25, 2014, 01:11:36 PM »
200 miles to one gallon?

What is not to like about this method?

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Re: I've decided to switch from liquid gasolne to vapors...
« Reply #1 on: September 25, 2014, 01:39:53 PM »
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Re: I've decided to switch from liquid gasolne to vapors...
« Reply #2 on: September 25, 2014, 02:31:18 PM »
Yeah I run mine on methane ... but that damm hose hurts when I insert it :o
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Re: I've decided to switch from liquid gasolne to vapors...
« Reply #3 on: September 25, 2014, 02:53:38 PM »
ahhh, i don't think so. what about little things like a/f ratio, and BTU's... they're running on fumes, too  :P  Steve

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Re: I've decided to switch from liquid gasolne to vapors...
« Reply #4 on: September 25, 2014, 03:07:43 PM »
ahhh, i don't think so. what about little things like a/f ratio, and BTU's... they're running on fumes, too  :P  Steve

C'mon now Steve...don't go ruining all this with facts and logic...lol.

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Re: I've decided to switch from liquid gasolne to vapors...
« Reply #5 on: September 25, 2014, 03:10:41 PM »
I have heard that the most important part to having that work well is the calibration of the system.

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Re: I've decided to switch from liquid gasolne to vapors...
« Reply #6 on: September 25, 2014, 04:06:44 PM »
Hard to believe a gasoline water pipe would vaporize fuel better than an engineered injection system. That's exactly what carburetors and fuel injectors do only at carefully calibrated fuel/air mixture.

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Re: I've decided to switch from liquid gasolne to vapors...
« Reply #7 on: September 25, 2014, 05:42:34 PM »
Carbs and injectors atomize fuel, not vaporize.
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Re: I've decided to switch from liquid gasolne to vapors...
« Reply #8 on: September 25, 2014, 07:10:39 PM »
"Hillbilly" use of a plastic gas can for under-hood fuel tank is the type of crap that lead to the end of Blitz:

http://www.facesoflawsuitabuse.org/2012/12/the-last-week-how-lawsuits-doomed-an-american-icon/

Also, these guys need to read up about air/fuel ratios, like SISF said.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air%E2%80%93fuel_ratio
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Re: I've decided to switch from liquid gasolne to vapors...
« Reply #9 on: September 25, 2014, 09:24:23 PM »
Thinking about it, I guess I'll concede that the thing will run as he has it built.
His video shows that much..
Interesting;

Some early carburetors were simply a sponge or wick that pulled wet gas into the material. (like a wick on a kerosene lantern)
On those early carbs, Air passing into the motor/over the wet sponge drew air/gas mixture into the motor..
Was pretty crude, but it did work in early automotive history...

On his invention, the 3 hoses would limit the amount of air that he can pull into the engine.
I assume he wouldn't have enough volume for higher rpm's. (so his RPM range must be limited)...
And as stated by others,,, the AF ratio, would have to be perfect to work at all...

Thinking out loud; Something like this could work on an engine that runs a constant RPM.
Like a old industrial water pump etc...  But would be a PITA for other uses...

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Re: I've decided to switch from liquid gasolne to vapors...
« Reply #10 on: September 26, 2014, 04:13:29 AM »
Constant RPM?  Hmmm, maybe use it to run a generator to power the electric motors in a car?  Kinda like train engines....
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Re: I've decided to switch from liquid gasolne to vapors...
« Reply #11 on: September 26, 2014, 06:14:18 AM »
Thinking about it, I guess I'll concede that the thing will run as he has it built.
His video shows that much..
Interesting;

Some early carburetors were simply a sponge or wick that pulled wet gas into the material. (like a wick on a kerosene lantern)
On those early carbs, Air passing into the motor/over the wet sponge drew air/gas mixture into the motor..
Was pretty crude, but it did work in early automotive history...


On his invention, the 3 hoses would limit the amount of air that he can pull into the engine.
I assume he wouldn't have enough volume for higher rpm's. (so his RPM range must be limited)...
And as stated by others,,, the AF ratio, would have to be perfect to work at all...

Thinking out loud; Something like this could work on an engine that runs a constant RPM.
Like a old industrial water pump etc...  But would be a PITA for other uses...

Ride safe, Ted

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Re: I've decided to switch from liquid gasolne to vapors...
« Reply #12 on: September 26, 2014, 10:30:24 AM »
Smoky Yunick from nascar built a vapor system for his Ford Festiva and was featured in Popular Mechanics in the early years.


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Re: I've decided to switch from liquid gasolne to vapors...
« Reply #13 on: September 26, 2014, 12:42:37 PM »
Smoky Yunick from nascar built a vapor system for his Ford Festiva and was featured in Popular Mechanics in the early years.


http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthread.php?5778590-SmoKy-Yunick-s-hot-vapor-engine

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Re: I've decided to switch from liquid gasolne to vapors...
« Reply #14 on: September 26, 2014, 12:48:44 PM »
OMG, a Fiero!  These were the cars that caught fire weren't they?
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Re: I've decided to switch from liquid gasolne to vapors...
« Reply #15 on: September 26, 2014, 02:45:36 PM »
I don't remember those getting that moniker but Ford Pintos certainly did. Of course there were not that many of those that actually caught fire either but it turned into a media circus.

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Re: I've decided to switch from liquid gasolne to vapors...
« Reply #16 on: September 26, 2014, 03:23:12 PM »
The early model was known for engine fires.  I seem to recall that the insurance rates for these vehicles went through the roof but I can't prove that as my memory is one of the least reliable things about me.

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Re: I've decided to switch from liquid gasolne to vapors...
« Reply #17 on: September 26, 2014, 03:25:59 PM »
Might have been something with the toxicity of the fires if memory serves.

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Re: I've decided to switch from liquid gasolne to vapors...
« Reply #18 on: September 26, 2014, 03:30:30 PM »
Cause it was made out of plastic body panels?  Again, another great idea from GM.
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Re: I've decided to switch from liquid gasolne to vapors...
« Reply #19 on: September 26, 2014, 04:15:06 PM »
Interesting- I know the Fieros were a little.... odd but did not realize they had that 'burst into flames' trick.

That video sorta' looks like a BMW final drive burning up only bigger.  ;) ;D

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The early model was known for engine fires.  I seem to recall that the insurance rates for these vehicles went through the roof but I can't prove that as my memory is one of the least reliable things about me.

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