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Mish mash => Open Forum => Topic started by: Rembrant on April 30, 2015, 04:57:05 AM
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Hey Folks,
I drop by this morning with my coffee to find threads locked?...and it's not really even winter anymore...lol.
Anyway, I need some advice from somebody with car/paint detailing experience. There are several times in my life where I swore I would never own a black car again, and now we have three of them in the driveway (with the intention of selling one eventually).
Anyway, two of them are all swirled to poop, and just generally chalky and dull in appearance. The other is relatively new and is shiny and clean.
What products would you use to refinish the two dull/swirled paint jobs? I recently purchased a new polisher/buffer...one of those Porter Cable jobbies with several different pads...cutting/cleaning/polishing?
http://www.amazon.com/PORTER-CABLE-7424XP-6-Inch-Variable-Speed-Polisher/dp/B002654I46 (http://www.amazon.com/PORTER-CABLE-7424XP-6-Inch-Variable-Speed-Polisher/dp/B002654I46)
I used one of the Meguiars (or Mothers) 3-step systems before and remember it working well. Should I just do the same thing again?
Any advice from those who have been there;).
Rem
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Hey Folks,
I drop by this morning with my coffee to find threads locked?...and it's not really even winter anymore...lol.
Rem
That's because all we have here are experts.... ;)
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That's because all we have here are experts.... ;)
Haha...I guess so huh Gary?
Ya know, it's funny...I've posted actual data before...even pictures and numbers and everything, and I still get told I'm wrong...lol.
Whatever. It's all good fun I guess. Can't take any of this stuff too seriously, eh?
My dear old grandmother had a little sign hangin' on the wall many years ago that read: "Those of us that think they know it all upset those of us that do".
LOL<
Rem
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http://www.meguiarsonline.com/forums/showthread.php?7011-How-To-Remove-Swirls-By-Hand (http://www.meguiarsonline.com/forums/showthread.php?7011-How-To-Remove-Swirls-By-Hand)
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When I had my Black Solstice I used Meguiar's detailer for black paint. Once a year I do the clay bar cleaning.
Below is a photo of it at 8 years old.
(http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL1275/13548833/24439480/407585307.jpg)
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The place where I used to buy my paint sold a product called Liquid Sapphire. It was the next to the last step I used before the carnuba wax. It's been years since I shot a serious paint job, technology has surely created more up to date prosucts by now.
This may very well turn in to a vehemently debated topic. ;D :popcorn:
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Not an expert but the answer is free: the best I have found is the old but still useful Maguiar's Mirror Glaze. It has the finest abrasive that I am aware of in a vehicle surface finishing system- best stuff to cut the swirl marks out of extremely fine buffing compound.
As to the other thing, well.... as I said 'Never wrestle with a pig; you both get dirty but the pig likes it'. :D Find the "pig"(s) and either ignore him (them) or set up the forum so you do not see the posts. We all have finite time on the planet, no need to waste it foolishly while we could be doing something interesting.
Brian
Hey Folks,
I drop by this morning with my coffee to find threads locked?...and it's not really even winter anymore...lol.
Anyway, I need some advice from somebody with car/paint detailing experience. There are several times in my life where I swore I would never own a black car again, and now we have three of them in the driveway (with the intention of selling one eventually).
Anyway, two of them are all swirled to poop, and just generally chalky and dull in appearance. The other is relatively new and is shiny and clean.
What products would you use to refinish the two dull/swirled paint jobs? I recently purchased a new polisher/buffer...one of those Porter Cable jobbies with several different pads...cutting/cleaning/polishing?
http://www.amazon.com/PORTER-CABLE-7424XP-6-Inch-Variable-Speed-Polisher/dp/B002654I46 (http://www.amazon.com/PORTER-CABLE-7424XP-6-Inch-Variable-Speed-Polisher/dp/B002654I46)
I used one of the Meguiars (or Mothers) 3-step systems before and remember it working well. Should I just do the same thing again?
Any advice from those who have been there;).
Rem
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Sorry I can't help...Detailing my work trucks for me is using soap at the car wash instead of just rinsing them off.
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Hey bud I charge about 3-500 to detail somebody's car. You have bought the right tool for the job but not the right product. If you want a swirl free shine then I recommend Adams pads and polish. I have brought 13 year old cars back to factory new looks to the point where the DMV inspector put a "dealer" sticker on the car before I told him what year it was. He swore it looked brandy new. Don't forget to wash and clay in a dust free environment before you buff and use the two bucket wash system!
Mike
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Hey bud I charge about 3-500 to detail somebody's car. You have bought the right tool for the job but not the right product. If you want a swirl free shine then I recommend Adams pads and polish. I have brought 13 year old cars back to factory new looks to the point where the DMV inspector put a "dealer" sticker on the car before I told him what year it was. He swore it looked brandy new. Don't forget to wash and clay in a dust free environment before you buff and use the two bucket wash system!
Mike
Thanks Mike!
I see there is an Adams dealer here in Canada....they're a 1000 miles west of me, but they are here...lol.
The pads I have are Lake Country...cutting, polishing, and finishing.
Which Adams products do you recommend?...Do you recommend a 3-step system, using all three pads start to finish?
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I'd diagnose your paint before going all three steps. If you have actual scratches in the clear coat or beyond then I recommend all three steps. If you only have swirls then I'd go two step if they are heavy swirls and only one step if you're just touching up. If you haven't buffed in a year, go two step. Doing all three steps on the regular really wears the clear coat and only should be done when you have actual scratches as mentioned before. ALSO watch his video on the technique on how to buff. I was doing it wrong and you can actually tell a visible difference after following his steps. Hope this helps ya out!
Mike
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If you have actual scratches in the clear coat or beyond then I recommend all three steps. If you only have swirls then I'd go two step if they are heavy swirls and only one step if you're just touching up. If you haven't buffed in a year, go two step. Doing all three steps on the regular really wears the clear coat and only should be done when you have actual scratches as mentioned before.
One black car has scratches and swirls and has never been waxed or buffed in 12 years...lol.
The next black one hasn't been waxed or buffed in at least two years.
the 3rd black one is closer to new with no swirls to speak of (yet). I just want to maintain it.
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1. 3 step
2. 3 step
3. 2 or 1 step depending on how much time you wanna spend. I'd do 1 step if there aren't any swirls.
Mike