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Offline Robo3

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Battery keeps draining
« on: May 13, 2022, 09:54:16 AM »
I have a 1997 Kawasaki Concours zg1000 and my battery drains after about 3 or 4 rides to work and back. Please help me I am stumped as to what it could be

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Re: Battery keeps draining
« Reply #1 on: May 13, 2022, 10:14:02 AM »
Welcome, Robo3. It could be A LOT of things. The three most likely things without any more info are; old battery, parasitic drain, defunct charging system.

Where are you located? How old is the battery? How are you re-charging it? How far is your ride to work and back? Do you have a multimeter?
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Re: Battery keeps draining
« Reply #2 on: May 13, 2022, 10:40:08 AM »
It happened to me twice now once on the way home from work last week and it happened again last night pulling in to my work parking lot and I had to leave it there because I didn't want to push it home.   My work is about 20 blocks away from my apartment building.

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Re: Battery keeps draining
« Reply #3 on: May 13, 2022, 12:41:16 PM »
Did the bike die while running? That's a pretty good indicator that there's something wrong with the charging system.

Check this out: http://zggtr.org/index.php?topic=3974
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Re: Battery keeps draining
« Reply #4 on: May 13, 2022, 07:10:50 PM »
Yes it lost power and stalled then it wouldn't start.

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Re: Battery keeps draining
« Reply #5 on: May 13, 2022, 10:03:07 PM »
Definitely sounds like a charging issue. Check your alternator connections and output voltage.
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Re: Battery keeps draining
« Reply #6 on: May 14, 2022, 06:51:53 PM »
As said above, check your battery cables for good connections/damage.  They must be CLEAN and TIGHT. 

Another common point of failure is the plastic connector between the alternator and the bike's wiring harness, located about 6 to 8 inches from the alternator.   Moisture gets into it and causes corrosion/high resistance.  Easiest fix is to cut out the connector and just solder the wires together.  There is no need for a quick-disconnector in a circuit that is likely to be disconnected and reconnected perhap twice in the life of the motorcycle.

Also, suggest remove and INSPECT every fuse and associated retaining clips in the fuse box.  I had a fuse socket clip get loose once, and the resistance caused it to overheat and melt the fuse box.  Since then I carry a spare fuse box assembly on the bike at all times.  It takes about two minutes to swap out the whole thing if it quits away from home. These fuse boxes have a reputation also for bad solder joints cracking and causing electrical problems.  Search the forum for threads about resoldering the fuse boxes.

Even if there is some other cause to your problem, like just a bad battery or failed alternator, fixing the above system weaknesses is a good idea to prevent future problems.
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Re: Battery keeps draining
« Reply #7 on: May 15, 2022, 10:24:12 PM »
I am hoping it is just the regulator/rectifier not something more drastic that I can't fix myself.

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Re: Battery keeps draining
« Reply #8 on: May 16, 2022, 02:37:34 AM »
The Rec-Reg is inside the Alternator and it is very rare that it dies.
Far more common is that connector that Nosmo mentions. I have had to replace it on ALL of my four C10s.
I replaced mine with 60Amp rated Terminal Block connectors and then wrapped them up in self-amalgamating tape.
Since then, none of them have had problems.
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Re: Battery keeps draining
« Reply #9 on: May 18, 2022, 03:50:27 PM »
Is there anyone else out there that can help me because I have tried everything and my battery drains after about 3 days after changing it.

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Re: Battery keeps draining
« Reply #10 on: May 18, 2022, 05:58:19 PM »
Do you have a voltmeter?
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Re: Battery keeps draining
« Reply #11 on: May 31, 2022, 02:20:42 AM »
Yes I have a voltmeter and I have checked every wire possible and still can't figure it out that is why I am asking for help because I tried everything.
Going to get my battery load tested and hopefully it is just the battery with a few dead cells.

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Re: Battery keeps draining
« Reply #12 on: May 31, 2022, 08:26:40 AM »
Everyone is looking for a solution but failing to see the problem.
The OP starts his bike, rides 20 blocks to work and shuts it down.
At 35 MPH, 20 blocks should take a little over 2 minutes.
To recharge a battery after starting a bike needs to run about 40
minutes. Repeatedly starting without sufficient time to replenish
is simply running the battery down.
The simplest solution, if possible, would be to connect it to a
trickle charger each night.

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Re: Battery keeps draining
« Reply #13 on: May 31, 2022, 07:16:21 PM »
Yes I have a voltmeter and I have checked every wire possible . . . .
Can you tell us what voltage readings you got under what conditions?

For example, battery voltage:
key off
ignition on
cranking
3000 RPM
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Re: Battery keeps draining
« Reply #14 on: June 05, 2022, 12:06:17 AM »
Everyone is looking for a solution but failing to see the problem.
The OP starts his bike, rides 20 blocks to work and shuts it down.
At 35 MPH, 20 blocks should take a little over 2 minutes.
To recharge a battery after starting a bike needs to run about 40
minutes. Repeatedly starting without sufficient time to replenish
is simply running the battery down.
The simplest solution, if possible, would be to connect it to a
trickle charger each night.

I am agreeing a lot with this answer.  Charging cycle may just be too short.

Regarding load test of battery:  You have a load tester.  It's called the starter motor.  Put your meter in VOLTAGE mode, and connect it to the battery terminals, positive to positive, negative to negative.  Crank the engine, (without using the enrichener), you want it to crank for a few seconds, but not start.  If battery voltage drops below 9 volts, it has a problem.  If voltage stays above that for several seconds, then battery is in good shape.

Also, check for parasitic amperage draw when the bike is shut off. Here's a pretty good discussion of how to connect your meter to check for any amp draw with the ignition switch off.  You will get a few milliamps draw from the clock, you can isloate that by disconnecting the clock.  There should be no other amperage draw.  If there is, then disconnect one circuit at a time to find out what it is.

https://www.batterystuff.com/kb/articles/charging-articles/testing-your-battery-for-parasitic-load.html
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Re: Battery keeps draining
« Reply #15 on: July 03, 2022, 07:41:43 PM »
Finally got a new battery I hope that was the problem but I will have to wait a new days and see what happens.
Hopefully it was just the battery.

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Re: Battery keeps draining
« Reply #16 on: July 06, 2022, 11:26:27 PM »
Well battery isn't the problem because my battery died again and it is a brand new battery - I had to leave my motorcycle somewhere because my battery died.
Something on my bike is not charging my battery.

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Re: Battery keeps draining
« Reply #17 on: July 07, 2022, 01:06:47 AM »
Did you check if you are getting charging voltage at the battery?
Get the bike running in neutral, on the center stand and whilst it is running put the voltmeter across the battery terminals and measure the voltage there.
Now have someone rev the engine to 4000 rpm. If the voltmeter is not showing well over 13.5 Volts @4000rpm then your alternator is not charging the battery. Possible causes are
1- Damaged connector or damaged wire between Alternator and battery
2- Damaged Rectifier/Regulator in Alternator
3- Worn out brushes in Alternator
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Re: Battery keeps draining
« Reply #18 on: July 09, 2022, 06:55:43 PM »
I tried everything and still nothing - I bought a new battery and it only lasted a couple of rides and it was drained - I had to leave it somewhere and come get it the next day with a charged battery and just barely make it home.
Please help me???

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Re: Battery keeps draining
« Reply #19 on: July 09, 2022, 06:58:41 PM »
Is it the regulator/rectifier or stator either one is going to be expensive - I am just trying to find out what it might be???