Kawasaki Concours Forum
The C10, aka Kawasaki Concours - The Original => The Bike - C10 => Topic started by: Engraverwilliam on April 19, 2015, 11:44:22 PM
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Walked out to find puddle under bike.
AAA towing her to the Mechanic in the morning.
No I wont try to start it.
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Will the mechanic know not to push the button?
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all mechanics aren't equal. Steve
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ain't that the truth
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Walked out to find puddle under bike.
AAA towing her to the Mechanic in the morning.
No I wont try to start it.
Didn't you just have your Connie serviced? Was the petcock left on PRIME? If not you need to look at the petcock as well as the carbs. HTH JD
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Need we say it again? Overflow tubes.
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I will be advising Hudson not to hit the button due to Hydrolock danger.
I am greatfull that I read everything on this site for this very reason.
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As for overflow tubes, I am not in a position to be able to remove engine parts and send to (florida?)It is my daily rider.
Bad enough I have to take a vacation day to take care of it.
I took apart and RUINED my last bike so I will leave this one to the Mechanic.
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oh. I am sorry to hear this. especially after your recent full service. make sure that no one at the shop attempts to start the bike. I would wrap a paper around the handle with a note. you never know who might look at the bike after you tell the first guy that it may hydrolock.
let us know what you discover...
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Hey Engraverwilliam!
I know you had a lot of faith in this mechanic, so I am very sorry to hear that this happened.
Your low mileage numbers after the repairs, even with you being in Cali stop & go traffic, did still have me wondering.
Might I make a suggestion? Check Ebay, etc. for C-10 Carbs, plus the classified section of this forum and the COG forum. If you can acquire an extra carb, send it to Steve In Sunny Florida, have him rebuild that one, and then swap out your current carb once you get it back.
That way, you won't have any more down time, assuming that your mechanic can get your bike in working order in the meantime, and solve your issue in the short term.
Also, I'd suggest that you think hard about rebuilding/replacing your petcock, if it wasn't left on prime.
We weren't kidding when we said we had very little faith in most mechanics, which is why most of us recommend just saving yourself the headache and having Steve do the job.
At least you caught it BEFORE you hit the starter button. A cylinder may still not have flooded, but yeah that's a scary thing...
Sorry to hear about your woes! Hopefully you get this straightened out in short order, and that you can continue to enjoy this bike after it's all said and done.
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It is in the shop.
I put masking tape on the off swtich and wrapped the throttle and covered the key hole and wrote HYDROLOCK HAZARD DO NOT ATTEMPT START.
They guy who brought my bike into the shop said it was a smart note to leave right off, so at least there is that.
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If you did not leave your petcock on prime, which could help cause this event, then your petcock is a peace of crap, and you better bone up on HYDROLOCK prevention, or install overflow tubes as a minimum. If you choose not to address this issue, it won't be long before your Connie will not be your daily driver. That is just how it is, and, no shop will take the time to fix it for you as they don't know how. Remember, it's a old C10 Connie and you have been given the right advice to keep her running for many years if you will just take the time and advice given to you........................
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One more thing!
Most of us really enjoy our Connies. Once you get this issue put behind you, I'm sure it'll all be worth it! The potential hydrolock issue is a weak point, but once you've solved this issue (hopefully permanently), they really are otherwise very dependable and great bikes for what they do!
Not many bikes are good for 100K+ miles (dunno what the C-10 record currently stands at), but these bikes can go the distance, and make you look good doing it!
Even if some people think they are Beemers (BMW's)... Hey is that guy still selling those KMW (Kawasaki Motor Works) stickers?
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So what would be the best answer if it is the petcock? I know about going the manual route but I know for a fact that I would forget it in the on position, and I also hear the rebuild kits suck.
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I can rebuild almost anything... that said, I just buy new oem from Kaw for Shoodaben. Old petcocks often have multiple issues, including the figure 8 failure, so WTH, buy new and call it good. Steve
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would an inline "off" valve be a good choice for a future mod? I still cannot understand why petcocks do not have an "off" position.
Mu old bike did and I turned it off for the night when I was don riding. Keeping the fuel where it should be...the tank
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A petcock with off would be a good option if you want it. A properly functioning vacuum petcock doesn't need an off position. It's off when the engine is off.
Btw, what's the news on your bike??
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I can rebuild almost anything... that said, I just buy new oem from Kaw for Shoodaben. Old petcocks often have multiple issues, including the figure 8 failure, so WTH, buy new and call it good. Steve
Steve, do you use the 51023-1388 part number? That is for the whole assembly including the filter.
(http://www.kawasaki.com/Parts/AddCopyright/?id=~/Images/Parts/C1903.07/F2410.GIF)
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Bike is still at the shop. They said it could be a week. They are short staffed due to a race someplace out of town. They have a few bikes that they run at races.
Going to call Friday to get a progress report. In the mean time I am driving a rented cage.
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yes, the whole thing. Steve
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What does that run? I am looking at maybe doing that myself.
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The petcock costs around 80-90 bucks.
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would an inline "off" valve be a good choice for a future mod? I still cannot understand why petcocks do not have an "off" position.
Mu old bike did and I turned it off for the night when I was don riding. Keeping the fuel where it should be...the tank
http://www.pingelonline.com/prodcat/fuel-valves.asp (http://www.pingelonline.com/prodcat/fuel-valves.asp)
Problem solved. ON-RESERVE-OFF. YOU STILL NEED OVERFLOW TUBES, because someday you will forget to turn it off. Pingel has any type valve you want, including vacuum-type. But they are spendy, and you have to purchase an adapter plate also.
pic below
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The petcock costs around 80-90 bucks.
check with Murph, but I think it was closer to 65.00. Steve
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Getting the bike back on Friday. Complete carb rebuild apparently it was filthy +oil change since the gas backflowed that direction as well.
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Didn't they just do the carbs? Have they looked at the condition of the gas tank?
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I will be asking that when I pick it up. I do know that the tank is shiny nice inside.
What other questions should I ask about the carb job?
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If they did any carb job last time around why did they not know that it was filthy??
What all they did and replaced this time around?
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Unfortunately you still need to get overflow tubes installed.
Why did you not have your mechanic install them.? It is inexpensive and simple to have it done especially by a mechanic.
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Unfortunately you still need to get overflow tubes installed.
Why did you not have your mechanic install them.? It is inexpensive and simple to have it done especially by a mechanic.
Mike, because I'm your mechanic... not his 8) Steve
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Unfortunately, unless someone can come to my house and do it for free I wont be getting overflows anytime soon. this little crap has already cost me 1200 bucks between the repairs and the rental car and paying for parking at my job . Even if I paid another 300 bucks to buy some carbs from someone off ebay and send them to Florida (how much does he even charge) I would still need to pay someone to change them out for me. Yeah this has been a disaster. If what you are saying that my carbs will just melt down again? I'll install a inline off switch like my old 70s bike had. I had that thing for 5 years only changed oil and gas carbs never gave me trouble. Now I get a bike with no off and it melts down, then I get another bike(This bike) with no off switch and it melts down. sounds like a problem having no off switch rather than a carb problem. I'm sorry If I sound bitter. Getting a bike was supposed to save me money not drain my savings. I LOVE riding. I really like this bike.
/sigh
I im pissed that I bought another lemon of a bike. My wife is not to happy with me either. We where supposed to go on a trip that is now cancled till next year because of this.
overflow tubes. Just cannot do it.
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Sorry, but the bike's not a lemon.
The knowledge of the owners on this board and on the COG forum is superior to any general knowledge you'd hope to find in a general repair shop. You were given advise and chose to ignore it for your own reasons.
So lets see. If I had done your carbs, top to bottom, including de-racking, replacing the fuel rail orings, kitting with new gaskets and fuel needles, cleaning with ultrasonic then manually cleaning, installing my 2 minute mod jet kit, installing overflow tubes, providing the drain hose system and shipping back to you would have cost you 442.00 and 5 days. I have done you tube video's to help you remove and replace the carbs. I've done over 500 sets of concours carbs at this point, so they will be right the first time.
You have been told what would work best for you. You've chosen to ignore the advise of those who've BTDT. Now you are blaming the bike for being a lemon. You're stuck in a mental tape-loop that's ignoring the best advise you could have gotten. Now you're low on money and p*ssed at your bike. Sorry, but I think your frustration is misplaced.
I knew when you posted the 600.00 price tag there was now way you got what you thought you did. Sad, but true.
There's an old saying "the sweetnesss of a good price is washed away by the bitterness of poor value"... and that's what you have here.
Sorry to be so blunt, but sometimes the truth hurts. I know I'm not being all huggy and making you feel better. I'm not trying to make you fell worse either, just stating the obvious. I've been a mechanic for 35 years or so, professionally for 30. I've seen all this before. the simple fact is that when you get good advise and ignore it, this is how it works out. Steve
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I am so sorry to hear this.
What was determined to be wrong and what was repaired!!??
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I would so be on their ass about not cleaning the carbs when they said they did it. At the least you shouldn't have to pay a thing to have them do the work (again?) that they were supposed to the last time.
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Even if we give them the benefit of the doubt, and agree they did do the carbs the first time, a good mechanic would have seen trash in the bowls indicating issues with the tank; checked float and fuel levels to be sure there was no mechanism to fail , and called you if they found something that would require further investigation. So this is the mechanic's dilemna; if you don't do a thorough job you get a come-back and an unhappy customer. OTOH, if you find more stuff that needs work and the person is already tapped out financially, they'll accuse you of just trying to run the bill up. Trust me, being an honest mechanic can be rough but it will pay off once folks realise you have their best interest at heart. Steve
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I think at the last service the mechanic detected the second carb leaking or something along that line. If it was the same carb leaking then you should have a talk w/ them.
Either way, if a "carb service" was done properly and parts replaced as needed, then it shouldn't be leaking less than 25 days later! Bad petcock and all.
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There also shouldn't be dirty carbs if they did the work.
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@ SISF, everyone.
Engraverwilliam is new to this forum. Keep in mind that there are a lot of so-called experts on various forums, so I can't fault Engraverwilliam for not understanding how well some of the members here know the ZG-1000. While we all did mention Steve as the 'go to' guy, as an outsider I don't think William could tell if we were just talking up our buddy or if Steve was the real deal. Plus, as he mentioned, his mechanic gave him the impression that he would be able to handle this no problem.
So yeah, in retrospect, yeah William should have just parked the bike for a week or two (and incurred the rental cost) and sent the carbs to Steve, but I can understand his predicament. Some mechanics just seem fairly trustworthy and talk a good game, and can lull you into a false sense of security. And some mechanics do know their stuff, even when it comes to Connies (a small number of those admittedly), and finding out if you have the right mechanic usually comes out after the work is done...
And I'll stand by my previous statement. Once the carbs are squared away, these bikes are awesome. Note that I haven't sent my carbs off for rebuild as of yet (I've kept them fairly clean using a fuel filter and draining the bowls every so often, and she's an '06), but it's on my to do list this year.
So yeah, don't pick on William too hard. Not all people are gearheads!
@Engraverwilliam
I do hope that the mechanic gets things squared away this time around. If he does completely clean and rebuild the carbs (assuming he does a decent job), you should be good for a while (read: at least a few years assuming you keep the fuel & tank clean), but I'd definitely keep an eye out for an extra Connie Carb to send to Steve, so that you don't have to deal with down time while Steve works his magic.
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Yeah, I don't blame him for not having sent them off. Heck, I haven't done it yet but it is on my list to do next year. I mostly blame the stealer for the work done. It sounds to me that they did not do the carb work they said. Either that or the tank is dirty and you just can't see it.
Have you tried pulling off the petcock/filter and looked at it to see how clean it looks?
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Have you tried pulling off the petcock/filter and looked at it to see how clean it looks?
He shouldn't have to, if there was a question the mechanic should have done it and reported it to him.
And just a clarification - I'm not upset that Engraverwilliam didn't send the carbs to me, that's not it at all. What I really don't like is when someone proclaims a vehicle a "lemon" because he had a mechanic who was a lemon. The c-10's, like I said in my intro video, are about as bulletproof as a mechanical contraption can get. 2 things kill them - hydrolocks and crashes. We can easily control one of those things. Steve
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I don't disagree with the mechanic contacting him, but my point is that something either wasn't done (the carbs) or there is incorrect info about the status of the gas tank. Since he had this problem it wouldn't hurt to check it out the filter.
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Sorry, but I think your frustration is misplaced. .
Yes sir it is. I love this bike and it is cetanly NOT a lemon.
Circumstances left me no choice but to take a work day, have the bike towed to Hudson and to trust thier work. I did leave it with them at a bad time when they where understaffed.
I made a promise to my wife when I had to get into savings to get another bike when I ruined the first bike ( I AM NOT A MOTORCYCLE MECHANIC) was the promise made. I am not to take apart any part of the engine on this bike. I am to leave it to a professional.
I am also naive in the fact that I figured buying it from a dealer would be ideal and that all maintenance would be done. I was wrong. That bike must of been just sitting since the thing was probably traded in.
She is NOT a lemon. I've just been through the ringer the last two weeks and I am tired of it. I hate being in a cage now that I've been riding.
Yes I Shouldovegone (see what I did there?) to Steve. But At this time I had no way of doing that. My hands where tied or so I thought. If I had gone against my wife and pulled the carbs and sent them to Steve then broke them or the bike on the re-install Things would be worse right now. My wife supports me riding and was understanding when I blew up the first bike. She had been "understanding" about this even if the core problem is exactly the same as the last bike.
Edit:I will be talking to them(Hudson) about why they didn't at least advise me that the carbs where having an issue.
The second carb had a drip and they somehow stemmed it (tapped the bowl?) leading me to believe that the issue was gone.
The invoice stated FUEL SYSTEM as being one of the things they did. I assumed that the carbs ARE the main part of the fuel system which I will be bringing up also.
I feel they dropped the ball here as well. I hope I can at least get some clarification at the most some discount...because they will not be getting a great YELP from me if they do not do something.
The inline off switch is something I can do though. I hope it is enough for now.
I just want to ride.
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putting anything in the fuel line has it's disadvantages also. I have written quite a bit on that subject over the years also. Search stuff like " fuel filter" and " tank venting". HTH, Steve
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thanks, I will Steve.
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William, I have an extra set of float bowls that I can send to Steve, so he can install overflow tubes if you are willing to make arrangements to pay him for his work. After you have installed the new float bowls, you send me your old float bowls. In the meantime, if it were me, I would go to a good hardware store an purchase a threaded 1/8" NPT (national pipe thread) 1/4 turn ball valve and two 1/8" NPT x 5/16" hose barbs and install it in the fuel line where I could get at the valve, and do whatever it takes to remember to turn the valve off when the Connie is not in use. As Steve stated, there are some problems with adding this valve, and it is my opinion, this valve is a stopgap measure until you install the new float bowls. If you do install this valve, I recommend that you run on the top half of your fuel tank.
HTH JD https://sites.google.com/site/shoodabenengineering/products-and-pricing
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Can you replace fuel bowls without removing the carbs?
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I don't think so. Seems like a tight fit to handle screws from the underside.
Steve's videos make it easy to remove the carbs. Just spend some time and it won't be that bad. It's just disconnecting couple of cables and rubber boots, etc. It's not that bad.
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Regarding putting anything inline with the fuel tube. There are lots written about it. Read what steve and others wrote on it and make a your decision. Related problems can be a hit and miss. I think in your case you have no choice if you do not get the overlow tubes.
If you aren't going to get over flow tubes I thing you at least need to put a on/off fuel switch. Especially since you have had one near death experience. ESPECIALLY after the carbs were supposedly "cleaned" less than 3 weeks ago when there was an obvious a leak on your 2nd carb identified by the mechanic there.
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I think they are going to tell me that the carb service is separate. However the (owner?) slipped out tht he knew about the leaky carb. They somehow stemmed the leak (smack the bowl maybe?) but 20 days later it is back and with a vengeance. I am going to bitch at them that if it was a separate procedure and charge from the general service then he should have told me so and I would have paid to have it don them while they had the bike apart for the valve job. At the least I should have been told. I plan on pressing this point to maybe get a little scraped from the bill at the least. I also learned my lesson on not scheduling an appointment. By just dropping it off to them they took their sweet ass time. Perhaps in the future when I can get a garage to work in and a backup bike I will start wrenching again. I simply cannot wrench in my carport on my daily driver. but I actually DO listen to you all here. I just couldn't act.
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what about this, from your other thread
Engraverwilliam
"Re: Taking by bike in for full service tomorrow
« Reply #35 on: April 05, 2015, 12:35:13 am »
Reservoir needed fixing where the hose connects. They said everything else was fine and just re-specked as it was all put back together. Valves and carbs adjusted accordingly. Looks like they might have ultrasounded the carbs they are shiny again and as I said before, the thing really purrs now,."
Clean on the outside, not clean on the inside. A 2 dollar can of brakecleen spray job.
This is not the reputable shop you thought it was. Sorry.
Steve
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Yup!
This is not the reputable shop you thought it was. Sorry.
Steve
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I don't have a garage, only a covered carport. All my work is done there. I have done my oil changes, valve adjustments, drain and fill coolant, all from here. If I didn't then I too would have to take it in, and homey don't play that game. I do as much works as I can myself.
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Can you replace fuel bowls without removing the carbs?
Difficult but yes you can. Having hex head screws is all but a must though; don't think I would attempt with the stock Phillips head screws in place...
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Well, William, you are not the only person on this forum that purchased a Concours only to have to throw a bunch of money at it in addition to not being able to ride it. I have basically ridden mine twice since November. I could have chosen to go thru the bike piecemeal and rode it between repairs and maintenance items, I didn't. I did everything I could think, maintenance wise, and also repaired the issues caused by the PO. All while working at least 75 hours per week. To be fair, that's a large reason why it took so long. I put about 1700 miles on her and the fork tubes are now at the suspension shop getting rebuilt. We'll see how long it goes this time before I have to fix something else.
I firmly believe that once I get it all sorted out, I will be able to put a bunch of trouble free miles on it. Not for nothin', but, I knew I was buying a used vehicle. If I had it to do all over again, I would have approached things a bit differently. Hindsight is always 20/20. If dealing with my motorcycle is the worst thing I have to do this year, I'll be on easy street.
Next weekend, when I take her out and spank her in the twisties between Borrego Springs and Julian, the time, money, and aggravation will be the farthest thing from my mind. ;D
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well they said it would be done today soI went over to pick it up. Not Done. However they loaned me a BMW for the durration of the repair time to make up for it....
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What are they doing now? I thought you got it back. Didn't you say it all cost you 1200 bucks a couple of days ago.
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600 for the service... havent paid it yet of course. the owner apologized said when i brought in the bike that I had almost 60 bikes ahead of me. they said it is still not done gave me the BMW to use. the rest is the cash I was paying for rental car and parking at my job.
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Its funny how they start work on my bike once I have thiers. They called me to let me know that my petcock was also leaking. funny how that works huh?
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This shop seems to be a total piece of sh!t. you should never take your bike back there again.
They just discovered that your petcock is leaking, carbs are leaking both happened 3 weeks after they supposedly rejuvenated your bike bumper to bumper.
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I tend to agree. guys.
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They was wearing lipstick.
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Its funny how they start work on my bike once I have thiers. They called me to let me know that my petcock was also leaking. funny how that works huh?
I feel you pain. I bought my '94 new and had a couple of different dealers do service on it. Pretty much screwed it up so decided it was time to do my own service work. Valve adjustments, change plugs and oil changes. Also a bunch of updates also.
It may take some time but with the help on this forum you can have a great running C10.
Good Luck! ;D ;D
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I feel you pain. I bought my '94 new and had a couple of different dealers do service on it. Pretty much screwed it up so decided it was time to do my own service work. Valve adjustments, change plugs and oil changes. Also a bunch of updates also.
It may take some time but with the help on this forum you can have a great running C10.
Good Luck! ;D ;D
William, Mettler1 just told you every thing you need to know to keep your Connie out of harms way, and didn't cost you a thing.
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William, Mettler1 just told you every thing you need to know to keep your Connie out of harms way, and didn't cost you a thing.
But he let me work on it while we drank beer..... 8)
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But he let me work on it while we drank beer..... 8)
Beer makes Connies run better, right?
;D
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But he let me work on it while we drank beer..... 8)
What can I say? Tony serves quality beer!! :thumbs: :thumbs:
Oh, by the way did I say thank you? :chugbeer:
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Beer makes Connies run better, right?
;D
Hell, beer makes everything run better......I have been hydro locked several times on beer and not once did I have a bent rod.
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yeah, too much beer makes rods floppy and flexible, so they can't be bent permanently.
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hahahahaha. so true.
yeah, too much beer makes rods floppy and flexible, so they can't be bent permanently.
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you guys have managed to make me smile despite all this crap with this mechanic. Thank you.
this is the bike they finally loaned me. While I wait and wait for them to finish my bike.
BMW f800R
(http://i.imgur.com/gIMbXvE.jpg)
I want my Sparrow back! This bike feels like a 10-speed compared to my concours
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you guys have managed to make me smile despite all this crap with this mechanic. Thank you.
this is the bike they finally loaned me. While I wait and wait for them to finish my bike.
BMW f800R
(http://i.imgur.com/gIMbXvE.jpg)
I want my Sparrow back! This bike feels like a 10-speed compared to my concours
That is a quick little bike. A C10 is like a tank compared to that 800. Not only does that engine have way more horsepower and torque , it weighs almost half of what the C10 weighs. I think it comes in under 400 lbs.
Just saying.. you dont have to like the 800 but it is light years ahead of a C10.
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Oh I am not saying this is a lame bike. I have to keep to the no3 lane just to stay out of trouble with this thing. Cruising 70mph in 3rd lol.
What I mean is that I really do prefer the truck-like feel of the Concours. And yes it is super light weight.
However this only slightly redeems face for these guys working on my bike. Called today and they said they would call me back. The desk dude didn't think my part(petcock) had arrived yet.
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If the owner knew you were blogging your whole ordeal then he may me more motivated to get your parts sooner and actually fix it up right this time!
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Keep flogging that BMW
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Your 10-speed comparison reminds me of a couple of years back when I went to one of the Kawasaki test drive events.
I tried out the Ninja 1000 and the C-14. Yeah, the Ninja 1000 did feel like riding a 10-speed to me in comparison, while the C-14 was like an old friend. Actually was surprised how similar the C-10 and the C-14 seemed to be, although of course the 14 has improved everything except gas mileage and non-digital analog stuff for those of us that prefer the stone ages. The C-10 has a digital clock, no other computer chips to be found anywhere... I kind of like that level of simplicity!
Also, LOOOOVE the valve adjusters. It's nice to not have to mess with shims!
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Bike spotted on facebook pic post
(https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtp1/v/t1.0-9/11109447_963231560376175_6129737470548145244_n.jpg?oh=1a8dba5e01b309fdef64e2169f36271f&oe=55CC6303)
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William,
Is that your carbs I see resting on top where the seat normally is?
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looks like it
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it better not slip and fall!!
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William,
Is that your carbs I see resting on top where the seat normally is?
There's your problem right there. The carbs need to be installed down at the engine, not on the seat. It won't run worth crap with them up there.
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:-\ I got the bike back! ;D
It DOES run exceptionally well.
The owner apologized profusely stating that they are down two techs, backed up with bikes, and alot about a parts drought inn the area. While I am actually satisfied with the work they've done, I will be hesitant to bring her back, uless I have no choice.
They where good enough to realize that they where taking to long and they DID loan be a really nice ride to play with for a week and a half.
Here is the invoice :o
(http://i.imgur.com/UPimJ7c.jpg?1)
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wow - 510.00 to clean and kit the carbs - I should really increase my prices! Steve
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Carb cleaning and kitting was a little expensive. Perhaps because you went to a dealership.
Even here in the city, a local small independent bike shop was going to clean and do a "basic rekitting" on my carbs for $200 flat plus parts if I took the carbs out to him. He was also OK with people bringing their own parts. He's a nice older gentleman. Basically a one man operation with 2 part-time techs.
I would recommend you find a small one man shop there where you live. They are always cheaper and usually much better.
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Interesting, they charged for 4 quarts/ liters of oil for a bike that holds 3. You had best check the oil for being over full. They may have put in 3.7 liters like it says on the engine. That's for a freshly assembled engine after a tear down. Over full on oil can present more opportunities to ride a Beemer 800. :(
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:-\ I got the bike back! ;D
It DOES run exceptionally well.
The owner apologized profusely stating that they are down two techs, backed up with bikes, and alot about a parts drought inn the area. While I am actually satisfied with the work they've done, I will be hesitant to bring her back, uless I have no choice.
They where good enough to realize that they where taking to long and they DID loan be a really nice ride to play with for a week and a half.
Here is the invoice :o
(http://i.imgur.com/UPimJ7c.jpg?1)
sooooo, with the initial first repair costs you already paid out... I'm thinking you have more money tied up in getting this running than the bike cost...
just how much of the initial repair (that was never done...) did they remit back to you?
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Not a **** thing. All I know isnow I get to ride her to work on Monday. I am thrilled to have her back. Next time she needs repairs I am taking it elseware. I wish I where the gearheads you all are. I tried, my last bike died.
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Wow!!
Nothing else. Just Wow!
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Keep in mind that there could be some bikers near you that might give you a hand with something. I remember once upon a time that people would hold classes at somebody's house to show how to do some work and at the same time you could get the work done on your bike for free. Well, maybe the cost of some beer and food.
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any of youz guys live in the LA area?
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They used very good oil- Motul 5100 is my favorite oil. I bet it shifts slicker than snot on grease.
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That would be interesting to hear. Mine has never been a smooth shifter no matter what I use.
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any of youz guys live in the LA area?
William, you can do a lot of your own work on the Connie if you just take your time and purchase a shop manual. You have a lot of resources to pull from here, and the old Connie is just about bullet proof. Trust me one thing you need to do, is add overflow tubes because hydrolock is a Connie killer.
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That was really great of them to let you have a loaner. You dont see that too often.
What they charged you is very much reasonable and normal for a dealer shop.
I say you did well considering you did not want to do any of this yourself.
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All in all, I'm just glad to be riding my Sparrow again. The loaner was a nice bike and you are correct that you do not see that very often. I told them that the service was above what was expected. I also told the Owner that they should buy a half a dozen used 250s so they can extend that service to other long term repair customers. He gave me the not a bad idea bottom lip. Anyways, riding the other bike that is not ours is like spending the night for two weeks on someones couch then finally getting home to your own bed. She is big, Heavy and awesome.
and yes she shifts really smooth. I noticed that too.