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Re: Keypass dies on trip
« Reply #40 on: October 02, 2013, 09:27:15 AM »
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Re: Keypass dies on trip
« Reply #41 on: October 02, 2013, 09:39:34 AM »
haters!  :(

Steve, I've been working a theory for a while.  Do you agree that the mad pow-ah is mad enough that disparaging remarks might affect karma at a level disproportionate to disparaging remarks about other parts of our beloved bike?

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Re: Keypass dies on trip
« Reply #42 on: October 02, 2013, 10:15:33 AM »
Steve, I've been working a theory for a while.  Do you agree that the mad pow-ah is mad enough that disparaging remarks might affect karma at a level disproportionate to disparaging remarks about other parts of our beloved bike?

^^^because of the awesomeness of the question, can I not agree nor disagree this time
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Re: Keypass dies on trip
« Reply #43 on: October 02, 2013, 11:48:37 AM »
When the wind bends the reed, is it the wind or the reed that is stronger? If a motorcycle falls in the woods, and no one is there trying to start it, can KiPass really be stuck? Can we really know the will of KiPass?

These are the ponderous questions with which we struggle daily. I do not think we can ever know the answers and have no choice other than to put our faith in KiPass and forge ahead.

A KiPass fob in your pocket is like a song in your heart.... an inner light that cannot be extinguished..... a special tranquility that touches all within its range..... and stuff like dat dare.

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Steve, I've been working a theory for a while.  Do you agree that the mad pow-ah is mad enough that disparaging remarks might affect karma at a level disproportionate to disparaging remarks about other parts of our beloved bike?
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Re: Keypass dies on trip
« Reply #44 on: October 02, 2013, 12:01:38 PM »
When I'm home my FOB is ALWAYS in the right pocket of my jeans. When I travel on business I leave the FOB home lest I loose it. But when I reach into my right pocket and the FOB is not there, I feel incomplete. A sort of sadness knowing that I am thousands of miles from my FOB.  :'(

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Re: Keypass dies on trip
« Reply #45 on: October 02, 2013, 12:22:30 PM »
KIPASS didn't fail.  A piece of stamped steel and weak spring did.  Same components a keyed system use.

Yes... no. KIPASS electronics didn't fail, but its mechanics did. With a regular key it would still work.

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Re: Keypass dies on trip
« Reply #46 on: October 02, 2013, 12:24:17 PM »
Clean a C14!?   

I'm afraid of this washing the bike thing people speak of. I'm concerned it may cause the saddlebags to fall off. I will never do something so drastic as to remove the protective dirt from my bike.

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Re: Keypass dies on trip
« Reply #47 on: October 02, 2013, 04:21:00 PM »
When I'm home my FOB is ALWAYS in the right pocket of my jeans. When I travel on business I leave the FOB home lest I loose it.

I have one and only one riding jacket (it is a 3-way convertible).  The fob lives in the inner zipped pocket of the jacket and I don't have to think about the fob, ever.  It is never misplaced, it is never lost, and I don't have to remember to bring it or have it.
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Re: Keypass dies on trip
« Reply #48 on: October 02, 2013, 04:32:51 PM »
When the wind bends the reed, is it the wind or the reed that is stronger? If a motorcycle falls in the woods, and no one is there trying to start it, can KiPass really be stuck? Can we really know the will of KiPass?

These are the ponderous questions with which we struggle daily. I do not think we can ever know the answers and have no choice other than to put our faith in KiPass and forge ahead.

A KiPass fob in your pocket is like a song in your heart.... an inner light that cannot be extinguished..... a special tranquility that touches all within its range..... and stuff like dat dare.

Brian

Sigh....

If you use contact cleaner be SURE that it says safe for ALL plastics on the label. Not all are.

Good point.  I never checked the label on mine but I could have sprayed it with silicone instead of contact cleaner...either way it still works (he says knocking on wood)..
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Re: Keypass dies on trip
« Reply #49 on: October 02, 2013, 05:40:56 PM »
I'd be wary of silicone spray too- all the stuff I've seen has some kind of a wax or wax- like base that leaves some terrible pond scum looking stuff behind. It works great.... for about two days and then starts the gumming process.

And sigh back at ya' 'cause this is a KiPass thread and as we all know, a KiPass thread 1) can't be ruined because it is pre- ruined and 2) at least someone, and hopefully many, has to keep up the mysticism that is KiPass in all its glory.   ;)

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Sigh....

Good point.  I never checked the label on mine but I could have sprayed it with silicone instead of contact cleaner...either way it still works (he says knocking on wood)..
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Re: Keypass dies on trip
« Reply #50 on: October 02, 2013, 11:17:07 PM »
I doubted KiPass one night, and it about VAPORIZED my arse  :o

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Re: Keypass dies on trip
« Reply #51 on: October 03, 2013, 04:36:03 AM »
I'd be wary of silicone spray too- all the stuff I've seen has some kind of a wax or wax- like base that leaves some terrible pond scum looking stuff behind. It works great.... for about two days and then starts the gumming process.

And sigh back at ya' 'cause this is a KiPass thread and as we all know, a KiPass thread 1) can't be ruined because it is pre- ruined and 2) at least someone, and hopefully many, has to keep up the mysticism that is KiPass in all its glory.   ;)

Brian

Brian is right about those silicone sprays. Please keep the silicone where it belongs.

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Re: Keypass dies on trip
« Reply #52 on: October 03, 2013, 06:49:09 AM »
^^^^she's looking for a guy with a FOB  ;)
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Re: Keypass dies on trip
« Reply #53 on: October 03, 2013, 08:23:01 AM »
Yep, you simply CANNOT ruin a KiPass thread. No matter how hard one may try....

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^^^^she's looking for a guy with a FOB  ;)
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Re: Keypass dies on trip
« Reply #54 on: October 03, 2013, 03:10:11 PM »


I found this on YouTube.   Kipass failure Kawasaki Concours 14

The guy has everything off the front so you can see what's going on.



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Re: Keypass dies on trip
« Reply #55 on: October 03, 2013, 03:30:25 PM »
Yes I have seen this he does add some interesting twists to the problem.
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Re: Keypass dies on trip
« Reply #56 on: October 03, 2013, 04:20:37 PM »
Interesting video but it he uses the word "switch" interchangeably with "solenoid". He is attempting to "fix" the solenoid that isn't broken. It is the actual switch on the left side at the 9 o'clock position from the stove knob that is sticking and needs to be fixed with a cleaning and stronger spring.

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Re: Keypass dies on trip
« Reply #57 on: October 03, 2013, 04:28:47 PM »
Give that man a cheroot!

Yep, the switch that sticks is on the other side of the ignition switch housing and does not look anything like that solenoid. The solenoid he was tinkering with is the one that controls the shot- pin that stops the ignition switch from being turned unless KiPass gives the 'okey dokey' to the bike that it has a valid fob signal. Put another way, the man was addressing a symptom, not the underlying problem.

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Interesting video but it he uses the word "switch" interchangeably with "solenoid". He is attempting to "fix" the solenoid that isn't broken. It is the actual switch on the left side at the 9 o'clock position from the stove knob that is sticking and needs to be fixed with a cleaning and stronger spring.
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Re: Keypass dies on trip
« Reply #58 on: October 05, 2013, 01:00:16 PM »
So I sprayed the hell out the key area and 9 o'clock switch with an alcohol based contact cleaner. The switch worked for the first time since having the trouble. I went for a short ride and tried the switch about 10 times, so far so good. I hope this will just be a maintenance thing but I have a feeling I haven't seen the last of the kiPass issue.

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Re: Keypass dies on trip
« Reply #59 on: October 05, 2013, 07:31:45 PM »
Just promise to not go backwards and buy an FJR ;) ;D