Author Topic: tire pressure monitors (Read 18745 times)

wingrider · « **on:** December 16, 2013, 04:05:51 PM »

Can the tire pressure monitors be programmed by the user if different ones are installed? I removed mine when I had the new tires installed as I refuse to deal with anything that expensive when the battery gets weak and you have to remove the tire to replace. Add in the blocking of the display and they were gone. I installed a Doran system I had from my Wing. My real question is do the pressure monitors I took out have any value to someone out there?

Thanks, Jim

gPink · « **Reply #1 on:** December 16, 2013, 04:25:08 PM »

Why don't you replace the batteries and put them back in next tire change?

VirginiaJim · « **Reply #2 on:** December 16, 2013, 04:36:05 PM »

To answer the OP's question, they would have to be programmed to the bike by someone (dealer) with the super duper Kwaker gizmo. They (dealer) would also have to know how to use said gizmo. There really isn't anything wrong with the sensors. It's just the battery that gave out. 9/10 of the job is getting the tire off. It's quite simple to replace the battery. I've done one already and will do the front sometime in the spring. The sensors will become dear as Kwaker Central supposedly is replacing the dead and dying sensors with ones that have batteries that can't be replaced and then you're having to buy a sensor if they aren't covered under warranty or warranty extension.

So in closing, the sensors have absolutely no value

and I'll be glad to take them off your hands for postage....

ZG · « **Reply #3 on:** December 16, 2013, 04:53:26 PM »

Quote from: VirginiaJim on December 16, 2013, 04:36:05 PM

So in closing, the sensors have absolutely no value and I'll be glad to take them off your hands for postage....

wingrider · « **Reply #4 on:** December 16, 2013, 05:01:10 PM »

Sounds like postage could be expensive.

VirginiaJim · « **Reply #5 on:** December 16, 2013, 05:13:46 PM »

Possibly...

Conrad · « **Reply #6 on:** December 17, 2013, 04:38:32 AM »

Quote from: VirginiaJim on December 16, 2013, 04:36:05 PM

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So in closing, the sensors have absolutely no value and I'll be glad to take them off your hands for postage....

Spanky · « **Reply #7 on:** December 18, 2013, 12:02:45 PM »

I am usually very happy with Kawasaki, but installing sensors without replaceable batteries is just an A-Hole move. Lets see, two batteries -$5.00 tops. Two sensors - just a little bit more...

VirginiaJim · « **Reply #8 on:** December 18, 2013, 02:02:40 PM »

Do you know of any automotive tire pressure sensors with replaceable batteries? The units on our bikes do not have 'user' replaceable batteries. They weren't designed for user replacement. We just got lucky in that we could do it. And you know, it may be a liability issue with Kwaker that they decided to change the design so that the batteries couldn't easily be replaced by the riders, not to mention that they just don't hold up.

maxtog · « **Reply #9 on:** December 18, 2013, 04:29:01 PM »

Quote from: VirginiaJim on December 18, 2013, 02:02:40 PM

Do you know of any automotive tire pressure sensors with replaceable batteries?

I am guessing few if any have replaceable batteries by design. But I bet they are far less expensive and last longer too.

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The units on our bikes do not have 'user' replaceable batteries. They weren't designed for user replacement. We just got lucky in that we could do it. And you know, it may be a liability issue with Kwaker that they decided to change the design so that the batteries couldn't easily be replaced by the riders, not to mention that they just don't hold up.

I am not sure how it could be liability related, since there is no loss in safety by having a low battery.

VirginiaJim · « **Reply #10 on:** December 18, 2013, 04:39:20 PM »

Who knows how the Kwackers and their lawyers think...just offering up a potential reason behind the sensor change. I mean, who knows what goes on in the board room after the Sake is opened? Which reminds me, I have a bottle of that just waiting to be consumed.

wingrider · « **Reply #11 on:** December 18, 2013, 07:12:19 PM »

The sensors for the Doran system don't have replaceable batteries but when the batteries do get weak which takes about two to three years of steady riding they only cost 25 dollars to replace and can be programmed in by the owner.

Pokey · « **Reply #12 on:** December 19, 2013, 07:46:04 PM »

The car sensors for sure last much longer, wonder why that is? "I do not miss those moody things by the way".

stevewfl · « **Reply #13 on:** December 19, 2013, 09:53:39 PM »

Quote from: Spanky on December 18, 2013, 12:02:45 PM

I am usually very happy with Kawasaki, but installing sensors without replaceable batteries is just an A-Hole move. Lets see, two batteries -$5.00 tops. Two sensors - just a little bit more...

Call Mark at kawasaki, he very much appreciates input (866) 802-9381

Tremainiac · « **Reply #14 on:** December 21, 2013, 09:42:42 PM »

Quote from: stevewfl on December 19, 2013, 09:53:39 PM

Call Mark at kawasaki, he very much appreciates input (866) 802-9381

Don't know if A call to Mark is legit, but I thinking of a call to Moma Kawa is in order!
My dealer ordered the sensors to replace mine under warranty, which is now a sealed unit, as has been mentioned elsewhere. But dig this, the nut that holds it in place is a separate part #

and needs to ordered separately, as the original is a different size!! I'm out 3 hours at the dealer + 2 hours to and from, for a 25 cent nut they'll charge 7 bucks for. And come on, it should be included. Bottom line, if your having your Sensors updated, make sure they order all the parts! Need to go back to the dealer, hope for another break in the weather like today. It was 61 on the jersey shore.

B.D.F. · « **Reply #15 on:** December 25, 2013, 10:02:29 AM »

To answer your question Jim, yes I believe they do.

The sensors are not programmed but rather the bike is programmed to respond to those sensors. Any Kawasaki dealer that has the KDS equipment (most seem to) will code the bike and the labor rate seems to be 1/2 hour or so usually.

The new sensors coming out from Kawasaki are a different brand, different type altogether, and potted meaning that it will not be nearly as easy to change batteries as it is on the ones you have.

So for someone wanting an extra set of sensors that they could put in immediately during a tire change, I would think buying a working pair would be useful. Try putting them up for sale on this forum and maybe the other Concours forum and if they don't go, put them on Ebay if you want. I really can't give you a value but I would think $25 each with dead or weak batteries, and maybe $40 each with good, 'full' batteries would not be unreasonable.

Brian

Quote from: wingrider on December 16, 2013, 04:05:51 PM

Can the tire pressure monitors be programmed by the user if different ones are installed? I removed mine when I had the new tires installed as I refuse to deal with anything that expensive when the battery gets weak and you have to remove the tire to replace. Add in the blocking of the display and they were gone. I installed a Doran system I had from my Wing. My real question is do the pressure monitors I took out have any value to someone out there?

Thanks, Jim

wingrider · « **Reply #16 on:** December 25, 2013, 08:42:14 PM »

Thanks. That is what I was wondering about. I will list them in a couple of days when i get some time off from work.

sf bay rider · « **Reply #17 on:** December 30, 2013, 03:10:21 PM »

I'm getting both front and rear TPMS replaced this coming Saturday. Done under warranty. Low Battery alert, for and aft. This has been happening, on and off for a few weeks. Time to get them replaced.

More as things develop.

Jack

gPink · « **Reply #18 on:** December 30, 2013, 03:17:02 PM »

Quote from: sf bay rider on December 30, 2013, 03:10:21 PM

I'm getting both front and rear TPMS replaced this coming Saturday. Done under warranty. Low Battery alert, for and aft. This has been happening, on and off for a few weeks. Time to get them replaced.

More as things develop.

Jack

Do you know if they are putting the new style in? What warranty are they giving on the new sensors?

Tremainiac · « **Reply #19 on:** December 30, 2013, 04:58:05 PM »

Quote from: gPink on December 30, 2013, 03:17:02 PM

Do you know if they are putting the new style in? What warranty are they giving on the new sensors?

Make sure they order the nuts!
My dealer ordered replacements and the new style came in. It require a different nut to attach it and has a separate part #!
They couldn't afford to include the nut!
Absurd!!

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