Author Topic: Azaro dual compound rear - an update. (Read 11087 times)

gtr1000 · « **on:** May 18, 2011, 03:43:01 PM »

I have to report back to Avon every 3-400 miles but here's an extract from my latest e-mail I sent to Avon:

"Hi Peter,

Now at 2090 miles, 4.9mm depth on centre line. No sign of squaring off. Of the past 400 miles, approx 200 have been with a pillion.

The wear rate still seems to be consistent with 400 miles per 0.3mm or 1320 miles per 1mm wear. As the tire started life at 6.7mm, the tire should achieve approx 6200 miles when it reaches 2mm tread depth. This assumes any squaring off that may occur as wear increases does not affect the handling.

As an aside, I've read here http://www.tyretectrading.com/store/tyretips.asp that carrying a pillion reduces the wear rate on the rear as the tyre is more planted on the road and less prone to skipping - true or false? If it's true, I'd better start carrying a passenger more lol."

For us riders OTP, 1mm is the legal minimum but I prefer to change at 2mm. http://www.hammondgroup.co.uk/upload/files/tyresafe_motorcycle.pdf

Of the miles I've covered, 20% have been on motorways (slabs?) whilst the remainder have been on flowing twisty roads at 60-70mph. The rear is run at 42psi solo or 2-up and wet weather handling is as sure footed as when it's dry.

This tire could be a vast improvement over my previous Azaros which varied between 5500k when they were first launched to 4200k last year. The most recent "standard" Azaro started to square off at just 2k miles

Avon are yet to say when this dual compound AV46 will be released but they were hoping it was a stop gap measure before the Storm 3 is due for release in late 2011. And yes, they have said there will be a 150/80-16 rear in the Storm 3 line up

If I have anything else untoward to report, I'll update this thread as and when.

Safe riding guys

connie_rider · « **Reply #1 on:** May 18, 2011, 04:27:09 PM »

Thanks for the update.
I sure hope this tire come on the market quickly. I don't like the feel of the bias tires that I have tried. I like the Avon, (and other radial tires) but I'm tired of replacing tires.
Maybe this dual compound is the answer we've been looking for..

I always thought that the rear tire squared off more quickly when I was hauling a passenger.

Ride safe, Ted

Lodogg2221 · « **Reply #2 on:** May 18, 2011, 09:11:29 PM »

I wonder if they will change the tread pattern at all, or I suppose the Storm 3 wont have the same as the Azaro. I dont mind it too much, but it seems some notice a slight shimmy when starting from a stop, or at low speeds...and Im one of them now!
Anyway, after looking at whats available, I will probably stick to the Avons. The couple deluges Ive been in have proven they have great traction even in REAL wet conditions.

gtr1000 · « **Reply #3 on:** May 19, 2011, 12:08:38 AM »

My last two tires when new, this DC included, have all had a rear end shimmy when pulling away. Believe me, this does improve after a few 100 miles and seems to disappear at around the 5-600 miles.

Avon are aware of this shimmy, not just on the Azaro but on other tires of theirs and across all types of bikes. To date, they've not offered an explanation $:-\$

gtr1000 · « **Reply #4 on:** May 19, 2011, 07:34:24 AM »

E-mail from Avon re. launch date of DC Azaro:

"Hi Paul,

We would release it now but are unbelievably busy. Likely around the end of the year.

Best regards,

Peter J McNally

M/C Technical Product Manager"

Not really what I/we wanted to hear but there's always hope

Maybe if we all lobby Avon both in the States and OTP, they might bring the launch date forward?

gtr1000 · « **Reply #5 on:** May 19, 2011, 07:37:02 AM »

Quote from: connie_rider on May 18, 2011, 04:27:09 PM

I always thought that the rear tire squared off more quickly when I was hauling a passenger.
Ride safe, Ted

Avon have said that reduced wear when carrying a pillion is bullshit

Lodogg2221 · « **Reply #6 on:** May 19, 2011, 07:59:45 AM »

Well when are they releasing the Storm 3? Same timeframe?
I dont recall, but was it going to be a dual compound too? (thought you had mentioned it in the old write-up)

gtr1000 · « **Reply #7 on:** May 19, 2011, 10:24:03 AM »

Quote from: Lodogg2221 on May 19, 2011, 07:59:45 AM

Well when are they releasing the Storm 3? Same timeframe?
I dont recall, but was it going to be a dual compound too? (thought you had mentioned it in the old write-up)

Timeframe - don't know but I'll ask the question.

Yes, IIRC, the Storm 3 will be a dual compound and in our 16" rear size.

Ron Dawg · « **Reply #8 on:** September 04, 2011, 08:45:14 PM »

What's up with the dual compound test and release that was rumored for year's end.... (coming soon....). Any word?

timsatx · « **Reply #9 on:** September 08, 2011, 04:30:34 PM »

Shhhh, you'll wake the crickets.

Lodogg2221 · « **Reply #10 on:** September 08, 2011, 04:40:52 PM »

Quote from: Ron Dawg on September 04, 2011, 08:45:14 PM

What's up with the dual compound test and release that was rumored for year's end.... (coming soon....). Any word?

Maybe he meant the end of this year....

throb · « **Reply #11 on:** September 08, 2011, 05:18:03 PM »

Quote

E-mail from Avon re. launch date of DC Azaro:

"Hi Paul,

We would release it now but are unbelievably busy. Likely around the end of the year.

That would be my take, but there isn't much left to this year. Oh yeah, and Go Pack!

Centex · « **Reply #12 on:** September 08, 2011, 10:26:51 PM »

Quote from: throb on September 08, 2011, 05:18:03 PM

That would be my take, but there isn't much left to this year. Oh yeah, and Go Pack!

Still only 3rd quarter ( in the year, that is )

gtr1000 · « **Reply #13 on:** September 10, 2011, 01:08:06 AM »

I'll e-mail Avon on Monday morning. They usually reply the same day

Ron Dawg · « **Reply #14 on:** September 11, 2011, 08:22:25 PM »

Thanks!!

connie_rider · « **Reply #15 on:** September 13, 2011, 11:40:10 AM »

Avon is right!!!

When I carry my wife on the back, I "do" get better mileage and better tire wear!!!

I don't think it's because of the tire tho,,,

I think it has something to do with the fact that she smacks me on the side of the head every time I get a little "exuberant" with the throttle....

Ride safe, Ted

Lodogg2221 · « **Reply #16 on:** March 04, 2012, 05:49:38 PM »

Any updates?

CRocker · « **Reply #17 on:** March 04, 2012, 06:01:27 PM »

Quote from: Lodogg2221 on March 04, 2012, 05:49:38 PM

Any updates?

She still smacks him on the side of the head every time he gets a little "exuberant" with the throttle....

Lodogg2221 · « **Reply #18 on:** March 04, 2012, 06:05:25 PM »

Quote from: CRocker on March 04, 2012, 06:01:27 PM

She still smacks him on the side of the head every time he gets a little "exuberant" with the throttle....

Nice! Thanks! I needed a good laugh!

connie_rider · « **Reply #19 on:** March 04, 2012, 06:16:53 PM »

Quote from: Lodogg2221 on March 04, 2012, 06:05:25 PM

Nice! Thanks! I needed a good laugh!

Gloom,,, ain't funny!!

Ride safe, Ted

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