tire pressure monitors

[VirginiaJim]

Do you know if they are putting the new style in? What warranty are they giving on the new sensors?

I  in your general direction concerning a warranty with the new sensors...

[gPink]

Never hurts to ask. 

[VirginiaJim]

Nope, but always good for a laugh..

[sycamoredave]

'09 Honda CRV:  Bought new, TPMS equipped, 65K miles on the car, system works perfect, never touched.
'08 Kaw C14:  Bought with 2500 miles on it, TPMS equipped, 27K on the bike, system only worked if it was above freezing, went through two sets of batteries in 15K, Kaw/dealer refused third, and I gave up on system.   

The technology exists for this to be a trouble free, dependable safety feature.  For whatever reason, Kawasaki not only laid an egg with the technology, but is less than supportive of it after the fact.  There is no defense or excuse for advertising a safety feature, and then executing it so poorly that it is useless.  If there is an aftermarket set of equipment that would work, it would be great, but quite frankly shame on Kaw for creating this issue.   

BTW - my $2 tire gauge has been trouble free.   

Just my thoughts.   
Dave

[B.D.F.]

It certainly has been a problem on the C-14.

For what it is worth, Kawasaki does not manufacture the sensors or the system that monitors them; the sensors were made by LDL out of France, and the rest of the system by Mitsubishi in Japan. Of course Kawasaki did choose that brand and install them on their bikes so they own the results and should warranty the sensors for the full five years they say they should have worked for IMO.

Kawasaki is now going over to Schrader brand sensors and they have some respectable history from the automotive side. And there is a new warranty apparently on these sensors, 5 years or 100,000 miles. The downside is that the battery is potted in the sensor so battery changing is going to get much more difficult if possible at all. And of course, Kawasaki is charging a tremendous amount of money for the sensors :-(

Brian

'09 Honda CRV:  Bought new, TPMS equipped, 65K miles on the car, system works perfect, never touched.
'08 Kaw C14:  Bought with 2500 miles on it, TPMS equipped, 27K on the bike, system only worked if it was above freezing, went through two sets of batteries in 15K, Kaw/dealer refused third, and I gave up on system.   

The technology exists for this to be a trouble free, dependable safety feature.  For whatever reason, Kawasaki not only laid an egg with the technology, but is less than supportive of it after the fact.  There is no defense or excuse for advertising a safety feature, and then executing it so poorly that it is useless.  If there is an aftermarket set of equipment that would work, it would be great, but quite frankly shame on Kaw for creating this issue.   

BTW - my $2 tire gauge has been trouble free.   

Just my thoughts.   
Dave

[VirginiaJim]

Thanks for the info update, Brian.  Where did you see that warranty?

[Conrad]

Thanks for the info update, Brian.  Where did you see that warranty?

And what's the price for the new sensors?

[VirginiaJim]

A bit more than a dollar, I fear.

[B.D.F.]

I don't remember :-(  But these are really (really) supposed to work.

Brian

Thanks for the info update, Brian.  Where did you see that warranty?

[B.D.F.]

High. I have not looked yet but something like on the high side of $100, closer to $200. Each.

Brian

And what's the price for the new sensors?

[sf bay rider]

I did not ask any of the questions posed here by fellow members. I will ask on Saturday, if the new style parts and nuts are present. Before repairs are started. Then report back here. To the members of the Forum. I thank you for the information. Happy New Year to all.

More as things develop,

Jack

[maxtog]

I will ask on Saturday, if the new style parts and nuts are present. Before repairs are started. Then report back here. To the members of the Forum. I thank you for the information. Happy New Year to all.

Thank you.  For planning.  To report back.  To the group.   

[sf bay rider]

Thank you.  For planning.  To report back.  To the group.   

The new style TPMS on the front and rear have been installed and programed by the dealer.
After a few mistakes on which parts to order and reorder. The correct parts and
fasteners are in place and working well.  The new style TPMS require a different size
nut to secure it to the rim.  In took about three weeks and a few round robins to get the correct
parts. I was told that the new style TPMS units should last at a minimum of three years
and operate without problems, down to 15F.  Time will tell.  The fastest part of this adventure
was getting the parts installed and programmed. 50mins, start to finish.

More as things develop,

Big Jack

[VirginiaJim]

Thanks!

[gPink]

Three years?   Are they under warranty?

[maxtog]

Three years?   Are they under warranty?

My reaction exactly.  Three years is a joke.  How about 6??  My old ones are just now turning 3 and are occasionally starting with the low battery warning when it is cold.  My car is 4.5 years old and still no warnings.

[sf bay rider]

Three years?   Are they under warranty?

My TPMS was done under warranty, because I, have the extended warranty.
Otherwise, it would not have been performed under warranty.  I agree for
the list price of the part. It shoud have a longer battery service life. Since the
base warranty is 36 months. I can understand why the part is rated for three
years.

More as things develop.

Big Jack

[galaxieman]

I missed the warranty extension (bonehead move, I know) back in Nov last year,  and the low battery warning started coming on in December.  3-year life expectancy indeed. 

[kwakrider]

Three years?   Are they under warranty?

Just brilliant...so in a nut shell, no improvement whatsoever!!  Except making it from a owners perspective more difficult to replace the battery...just %&*# brilliant!! 

[VirginiaJim]