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The C-14, aka Kawasaki Concours-14, the new one :) => The Bike - C14/GTR 1400 => Topic started by: bhodge10 on May 30, 2012, 04:09:11 PM

Title: Feedback when braking with front brake
Post by: bhodge10 on May 30, 2012, 04:09:11 PM
hey guys,

I can't quite explain what is happening, but either at low or high speeds, when I brake, I get almost a clicking feeling in both handlebars. I get the feeling only 1 time when I apply the brakes. But if I left off the brakes and reapply them, I get the feeling. I can do this repeatedly. It's hard to describe what it feels like, it's almost like something is shifting on the handlebars or forks. It is more noticeable at lower speeds. I've tried tightening all of the bolts on the handle bars (there is a 1" riser installed), but they all seem really tight.  It seems like I've always had it since I bought the bike 1.5 years and 6000 miles ago. I don't feel like I'm in any danger from it. Nothing feels loose.

Any idea what it could be?
Title: Re: Feedback when braking with front brake
Post by: RBX QB on May 30, 2012, 04:16:51 PM
You don't state what bike you have, but that phenomenon is well documented on the bikes with ABS. Mine does that, as well.
Title: Re: Feedback when braking with front brake
Post by: mike on May 30, 2012, 04:21:20 PM
The steering head bearings are probably loose. It should be covered under warranty.
Title: Re: Feedback when braking with front brake
Post by: bhodge10 on May 30, 2012, 05:25:14 PM
Sorry, I usually do put the bike. It's on 08 with ABS with 16k miles on it.
Title: Re: Feedback when braking with front brake
Post by: texrider on May 30, 2012, 08:14:03 PM
At 16k, the neck bearings should have been checked and snugged at least once...
Title: Re: Feedback when braking with front brake
Post by: Tim on May 31, 2012, 01:46:36 AM
You don't state what bike you have, but that phenomenon is well documented on the bikes with ABS. Mine does that, as well.

Mine is smooth as glass when stopping. You could have brake pad build up on the rotors. It appears there is two ways of removing the buildup. One is too get on the front brake harder than normal for a stop , the other is to sand it off with a med grit, scotch brite or the likes.

Title: Re: Feedback when braking with front brake
Post by: VirginiaJim on May 31, 2012, 04:05:16 AM
If it's more of a knock than a click and it only does it once....it's the steering bearings.
Title: Re: Feedback when braking with front brake
Post by: 1goindiesel on May 31, 2012, 10:24:34 AM
I have a new 2012 model, I too notced that when dragging the front brake slightly ahead of a stop and then touching the rear I feel a "bump" in the bike and system once. I think it has something to do with the linked brakes. Does not feel like its broken or wrong, just different. The brakes work great. My one concern with the linked brakes is that I use the rear brake dragging method for slow tight turns and I worry that it will apply front brake and try to spill the bike over in to the turn, being very careful on that front while getting used to the big girl... 
Title: Re: Feedback when braking with front brake
Post by: Son of Pappy on May 31, 2012, 12:01:11 PM
Head or wheel bearings.  Take it to the bank.
Title: Re: Feedback when braking with front brake
Post by: bbhzx12 on May 31, 2012, 08:03:41 PM
+1 for steering bearings
Title: Re: Feedback when braking with front brake
Post by: bhodge10 on May 31, 2012, 09:17:08 PM
So I'm going to get it checked out by a stealership but is there any risks by continuing to ride the bike? The dealership is probably going to keep the bike for weeks and I don't want to do that during peak riding time.
Title: Re: Feedback when braking with front brake
Post by: VirginiaJim on June 01, 2012, 03:58:50 AM
I don't think so.  I've rode my bike with knock (steering bearings) for quite a bit before I got around to tightening it up.  One thing, though, look at the center of your bars and see if the black plug is there along with the round nut with the allen key in the middle of it.  We've had some of those fall off.  I'd be nervous it it wasn't there.
Title: Re: Feedback when braking with front brake
Post by: texrider on June 01, 2012, 05:51:16 AM
Loose steering bearings can de-stabilize the bike at speed, and cause a tank-slapper event... :o
Title: Re: Feedback when braking with front brake
Post by: VirginiaJim on June 01, 2012, 11:13:39 AM
Very true, but in my case I had a pretty severe knock and procrastinated a year or two without issues.  I guess it depends on the looseness....