Kawasaki Concours Forum
The C10, aka Kawasaki Concours - The Original => The Bike - C10 => Topic started by: kzz1king on January 27, 2012, 01:46:55 PM
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I am going to check my fuel levels. When I put my 2 minute mod in I used something other than das but cannot remember what. Got the idea here though. Anyone know? Thanks
Wayne
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might ask Bubba Steve, but he and I use gas,,,,
you need something with the correct specific gravity, close to gasolene
I suggested once to use IsoHeet or Heet drygas additive, because it is safer, and also won't require cleaning the carbs afterwards.
I don't like mineral spirits, to me it's a contaminant.
jmho
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Thanks, not sure what it was and I thought I heard it from Steve but I have a memory only a mother could trust. Gas has a specific gravity of .739 and alcohol has .802. What I don't know is if that is close enough. Just hate to mess with gas in the shop during the winter with the furnace and all.
Wayne
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SISF IIRC does use something other gas to set float levels, just cant recal what it is
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SISF IIRC does use something other gas to set float levels, just cant recal what it is
I would agree. I seem to recall him posting that he used mineral spirits. I did a search but did not comeup with anything. It was probably before the Crash of 2011. Perhaps he will see this and set us straight.
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I'll send him a note...he should be along shortly.... ;)
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I use de-scented mineral spirits with tcw3 oil in it for color. No issues on contamination, because I check levels on a dedicated test stand, then blow the carbs out with compressed air before the ship or get installed. HTH, Steve
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Mammas and Pappas did a song about that called "This is Dedicated to the Carbs I Love"
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Thank you gentlemen, now to find some tcw3.
Wayne
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Mammas and Pappas did a song about that called "This is Dedicated to the Carbs I Love"
Walmart is were I get mine.
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+1 on Walmart Super Tech TCW-3 Gal. When I bought mine 18 mos. ago it was around $12
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Thanks guys, Walmart it is. Some of you add a teaspoon of the stuff every fillup?
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If I run 200+ miles before a fillup I add about 2 ounces. 100+ 1 ounce. I found some cheap cough syrup bottle that fit in the right fairing pocket for trips. Bottle goes in a ziplock bag in case of a leak. That could be messy!! If you miss a fillup or two, no problem. My bike parked at home always has a full tank of gas.
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If I run 200+ miles before a fillup I add about 2 ounces. 100+ 1 ounce. ...If you miss a fillup or two, no problem. My bike parked at home always has a full tank of gas.
I can see doing this for storage, long term, but if you ride regularly, and cycle fuel thru constantly, it's kinda silly no? Occasional use, maybe, but every fillup?
I mean adding 2 oz of oil to 6 gallons of fuel, is basically running a 2 cycle premix in a 4 cycle engine...
Just saying, and I am sure anyone following you on the road appreciates the aroma. ;D
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I can see doing this for storage, long term, but if you ride regularly, and cycle fuel thru constantly, it's kinda silly no? Occasional use, maybe, but every fillup?
I mean adding 2 oz of oil to 6 gallons of fuel, is basically running a 2 cycle premix in a 4 cycle engine...
Just saying, and I am sure anyone following you on the road appreciates the aroma. ;D
But But BUT that's what Steve does right? ;)
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But But BUT that's what Steve does right? ;)
Damn straight, Mister!! ;D
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Just saying, and I am sure anyone following you on the road appreciates the aroma. ;D
I'm sure they do! I use a great deodorant. 8)
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I can see doing this for storage, long term, but if you ride regularly, and cycle fuel thru constantly, it's kinda silly no? Occasional use, maybe, but every fillup?
I mean adding 2 oz of oil to 6 gallons of fuel, is basically running a 2 cycle premix in a 4 cycle engine...
Just saying, and I am sure anyone following you on the road appreciates the aroma. ;D
THIS will absolutely put an end to all discussion about the use of TCW-3 in our ethonal fueled carburated Concours!! ::) Read this:
http://hhrchevyfamily.19.forumer.com/a/using-2cycle-oil-in-gas-wal-mart-tc-w3_post7688.html (http://hhrchevyfamily.19.forumer.com/a/using-2cycle-oil-in-gas-wal-mart-tc-w3_post7688.html)
In my next feature I will end ALL oil thread discussions!!!!!
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If I'm on a trip, tank over tank, I'm not running tcw3. But my bike is a "recreational vehicle" so it sits alot, and when it's sitting it has TCW3 in it. One time last year I expected to be riding, and didn't spike the tank; then the bike set in the hot shop during the summer and suffered severe dehydration (evaporation). end result, pilot circuits clogged, and I had to pull the carbs tho clear the pilot circuits. i've always kept TCW3 in the voyager, same carbs, and it has never had an issue. Steve
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My question; I run ethanol free gas in everything possible, having a choice of three local stations that sell it. The only exception is when I may be out of the area and need fuel. Is there any benefit to adding tcw3 to this fuel?
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One of the reasons I started using TCW-3 is I had a "jerkiness" for yrs when crusing at about 35mph in suburban streets even after a good carb cleaning, Steve's 2MM and T Cro's Stick Coils. So I did a compression check and had 3 cyls at 190 psi and #2 cyl at 170 psi. A teaspoon of oil in that cyl bought the pressure upto 185 psi. Looked like a ring problem.
Talked to "guru" Steve and he suggested maybe a stuck ring due to carbon. He suggested using TCW-3 might remove carbon and free up the ring. So after using it for about 3 months one day I noticed the "jerkiness" was gone. Did a compresssion test and all cyls were back to normal psi.
The claim is that it removes-reduces carbon. Really don't know for sure but I like the results in a smoother running bike.
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OH NO! I inadvertently started an oil thread. New ground for me.
Wayne
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OH NO! I inadvertently started an oil thread. New ground for me.
Wayne
Gee Wayne, I don't think it was intentional. We will just pretend it didn't happen. :deadhorse: :deadhorse: :deadhorse: ;D