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The C-14, aka Kawasaki Concours-14, the new one :) => Accessories and modifications - C14/GTR 1400 => Topic started by: YHSublime on October 14, 2021, 03:11:07 PM

Title: Phone mount?
Post by: YHSublime on October 14, 2021, 03:11:07 PM
I've seen threads on this, but cant seem to figure out EXACTLY what I need to make this work. I'm looking for a mount that I can easily attach to the motorcycle, and a case that I can easily attach and unattached to the mount. I'm frequently riding in or around Washington, DC, and am constantly using navigation even I know where I'm going.

I have a 2013 kawasaki concours 14 & an iPhone 11 Pro Max

Thanks in advance for any and all help.

Title: Re: Phone mount?
Post by: Big Red on October 14, 2021, 03:29:55 PM
I use a Quad Lock. Getting it on is easy, but requires the phone to be lined up right. Removal is SUPER easy. Push the little lock tab and it rotates off. I really like the vibration damping built into it as well.
Title: Re: Phone mount?
Post by: zrx mitch on October 14, 2021, 05:17:59 PM
I'll second the Quad Lock. Hands down better than my previous Ram Xgrip mount.
Title: Re: Phone mount?
Post by: Big Red on October 14, 2021, 07:37:27 PM
I'll second the Quad Lock. Hands down better than my previous Ram Xgrip mount.

I too had a Ram X-grip before the Quad Lock. Your assessment is correct.
Title: Re: Phone mount?
Post by: maxtog on October 15, 2021, 05:22:49 AM
RAM X-grip.  Works great.  Only issue is making sure one of the arms doesn't land on the volume buttons.  RAM ball on the risers.  Then use magnetic USB connectors so it is not possible to accidentally damage the phone connector port.
Title: Re: Phone mount?
Post by: J.R. on October 15, 2021, 05:47:06 AM
Another vote for Quad lock. I have the wireless charger on mine as well.
Title: Re: Phone mount?
Post by: timdow on October 15, 2021, 07:39:29 AM
I have X-Grip because there is no Quad Lock case for my phone.  X-Grip is OK, but I think Quad Lock is better.
Title: Re: Phone mount?
Post by: YHSublime on October 15, 2021, 08:24:30 AM
Which mount are you all using?

https://www.quadlockcase.com/collections/shop-mounts
Title: Re: Phone mount?
Post by: Dirtiegirtie on October 15, 2021, 09:12:58 AM
RAM X-grip.  Works great.  Only issue is making sure one of the arms doesn't land on the volume buttons.  RAM ball on the risers.

I have the ramx as well. I've only used it a few times, but def had to make very sure the arms don't contact a button... they are VERY strong spring-loaded arms!
Title: Re: Phone mount?
Post by: kzz1king on October 15, 2021, 10:07:46 AM
I have X-Grip because there is no Quad Lock case for my phone.  X-Grip is OK, but I think Quad Lock is better.
They make an adaptor that uses 3m tape to attach to your case. I am thinking of trying it.
Title: Re: Phone mount?
Post by: kzz1king on October 15, 2021, 10:19:27 AM
Anyone using the quad lock with the vibration dampener? It's an extra $20. It's the reason I may switch from the x mount.
Title: Re: Phone mount?
Post by: Rubber_Snake on October 15, 2021, 10:30:07 AM
Anyone using the quad lock with the vibration dampener? It's an extra $20. It's the reason I may switch from the x mount.
+1 for how the dampener works.  Ever try to record video on the bike?  Talk about distortion.  I use the ram mount with the long “fingers” to hold the phone.  I was able to squeeze a wireless charger in there, which is nice, but the quadlock set up looks cleaner and appears to work much better.  The 12 pro + phone I have now places the volume and off buttons right at the fingers, so it’s a pain to set the phone in the exact spot I need to enable wireless charging.   
Title: Re: Phone mount?
Post by: zrx mitch on October 15, 2021, 04:14:00 PM
Which mount are you all using?

https://www.quadlockcase.com/collections/shop-mounts

1" ball adapter mount.
Title: Re: Phone mount?
Post by: maxtog on October 15, 2021, 04:24:29 PM
I have the ramx as well. I've only used it a few times, but def had to make very sure the arms don't contact a button... they are VERY strong spring-loaded arms!

I was VERY skeptical of the RAM X-Grip, thinking, "no way this this is going to be strong and reliable."  I was wrong.  Years of perfect service and the phone never moves AT ALL.
Title: Re: Phone mount?
Post by: maxtog on October 15, 2021, 04:25:12 PM
They make an adaptor that uses 3m tape to attach to your case. I am thinking of trying it.

Now THAT is something I would not trust- just using some adhesive pad.  Besides, who wants some big thing on the back of their phone case all the time?
Title: Re: Phone mount?
Post by: Big Red on October 15, 2021, 04:46:50 PM
For my quad lock: I rigged up my mount. I did add the vibration damper just so that the vibration from my bike doesn't kill my camera. I live in Phoenix, so I can't use wireless charging. It adds too much heat to the phone, and it'll shut down. Even just sitting in traffic when 110* is enough to get it to shut down. I would NOT recommend the Quad Lock mount with the wireless charging. My best friend has that one and the release to get the phone back off is MUCH harder to use.
Title: Re: Phone mount?
Post by: kzz1king on October 15, 2021, 04:58:48 PM
Does the dampener seem to work well?
Title: Re: Phone mount?
Post by: J.R. on October 17, 2021, 07:07:05 AM
I would NOT recommend the Quad Lock mount with the wireless charging. My best friend has that one and the release to get the phone back off is MUCH harder to use.

I find it just as easy to use the wireless charger mount as the regular one. Just need to use a thumb and finger on either side of the phone to push down on the lock ring. There might be an issue with your friends mount if it’s hard to push down. I have one in my truck as well that i also have no issues with. I also have the regular mount on two of my bicycles, so i use them regularly as well.

Video: https://photos.app.goo.gl/fosKxf1XhxVsrNP48

Title: Re: Phone mount?
Post by: YHSublime on October 18, 2021, 08:54:54 AM
Thanks all! I've ordered the Quad Lock and the Vibration Dampener. I'll update once it arrives and I get it installed!
Title: Re: Phone mount?
Post by: YHSublime on October 23, 2021, 09:50:03 AM
I use a Quad Lock. Getting it on is easy, but requires the phone to be lined up right. Removal is SUPER easy. Push the little lock tab and it rotates off. I really like the vibration damping built into it as well.

I'll second the Quad Lock. Hands down better than my previous Ram Xgrip mount.

I too had a Ram X-grip before the Quad Lock. Your assessment is correct.

Another vote for Quad lock. I have the wireless charger on mine as well.

Anyone using the quad lock with the vibration dampener? It's an extra $20. It's the reason I may switch from the x mount.

For my quad lock: I rigged up my mount. I did add the vibration damper just so that the vibration from my bike doesn't kill my camera. I live in Phoenix, so I can't use wireless charging. It adds too much heat to the phone, and it'll shut down. Even just sitting in traffic when 110* is enough to get it to shut down. I would NOT recommend the Quad Lock mount with the wireless charging. My best friend has that one and the release to get the phone back off is MUCH harder to use.

Hey all! I think I might have worked myself into a pickle here. I ordered the Quadlock Motorcycle Stem Mount, and I'm wondering if it just doesn't fit, or if I'm missing some tips or tricks? I can get it about halfway down the hole in the stem and then no further. I've cleaned the inside of the bolt, I've tried a light touch, a bit nervous to try a big push, but think that wouldn't really work anyways.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51622069321_5ea4dede55_o.jpg)
Title: Re: Phone mount?
Post by: kzz1king on October 23, 2021, 04:58:00 PM
Sorry, I have more questions than answers. How  deep is the recess and how long is the stem? How far does it go in and does it feel secure at that point? Is the sr designed to be shortened?
Title: Re: Phone mount?
Post by: kzz1king on October 23, 2021, 05:01:49 PM
https://www.google.com/search?client=ms-android-google&sxsrf=AOaemvIl-430REvPwtcub4cjtinJF7BZYQ:1635029928565&q=quad%20lock%20stem%20mount%20installation&ved=2ahUKEwjPy9qQ0eHzAhUrnOAKHePcAAsQsKwBKAB6BAhkEAI&biw=393&bih=754&dpr=2.75#fpstate=ive&vld=cid:5cf1d158,vid:nL-Ahy83RJ0,st:0
Title: Re: Phone mount?
Post by: YHSublime on October 24, 2021, 02:14:17 AM
Sorry, I have more questions than answers. How  deep is the recess and how long is the stem? How far does it go in and does it feel secure at that point? Is the sr designed to be shortened?

The recess in the stem? Def deep enough that it should go all the way down. The actual mount should be all the way in and sit flush. There is an Allen key that’s will tighten it, the metal pieces slide out like an anchor mount as it tightens.

I’m just wondering if anybody has successfully used this mount on a concours before? If I take out one of the metal pieces it’s snug, but not tight, and will sit flush. Just seems like it’s designed to fit but only with perfect finess.
Title: Re: Phone mount?
Post by: J.R. on October 25, 2021, 07:53:40 AM
I used this: https://www.rammount.com/part/RAM-B-309-1U and mounted it on the clutch side. I don't have an answer for the other mount.
Title: Re: Phone mount?
Post by: YHSublime on October 25, 2021, 01:02:05 PM
I used this: https://www.rammount.com/part/RAM-B-309-1U and mounted it on the clutch side. I don't have an answer for the other mount.

Cool, these handlebars don't really make it easy to mount anything once you really get into it!

I confirmed with Moto Mount, the fork mount WILL NOT work with the concours stem as there is a beveled lip. Bummer, looks like I'm paying shipping to get it back to them as well.
Title: Re: Phone mount?
Post by: YHSublime on October 27, 2021, 01:30:36 PM
1" ball adapter mount.

How the heck are you getting that anywhere on the handlebars?
Title: Re: Phone mount?
Post by: kzz1king on October 27, 2021, 01:44:06 PM
That's what I have too. One on each side
for phone  and Rd. Will get a pic for you next trip to the shop.
Title: Re: Phone mount?
Post by: YHSublime on October 27, 2021, 02:24:14 PM
That's what I have too. One on each side
for phone  and Rd. Will get a pic for you next trip to the shop.

I appreciate it, I just spent $10 shipping the dang thing back to quad lock for a return. There's really not a lot of room on these handlebars to mount anything, and the stem bolt is just odd shaped enough that it doesn't work in there either. I might just throw my tank bag back on and call it a day.
Title: Re: Phone mount?
Post by: maxtog on October 27, 2021, 03:56:04 PM
How the heck are you getting that anywhere on the handlebars?

I posted earlier that it is a common option on handlebar risers.  That is how I have mine.  Tons of people have risers.  Outside of that, it gets complicated- stem mount is the only other way I know of to have it where you want it- in the middle, between the bars.  Other options place it way high near grips by mounting a ball with the controls/brake/clutch bolts (look at the link JR posted, above).  That might be OK for some people, but it is not where I would want it.
Title: Re: Phone mount?
Post by: YHSublime on October 27, 2021, 04:22:40 PM
I posted earlier that it is a common option on handlebar risers.  That is how I have mine.

Yeah, I'm seeing now you said RAM ball on the risers.

Other options place it way high near grips by mounting a ball with the controls/brake/clutch bolts (look at the link JR posted, above).  That might be OK for some people, but it is not where I would want it.


Yeah, I'm not really interested in that position either personally. I'd love a stem mount that worked, it's the cleanest looking IMO.
Title: Re: Phone mount?
Post by: zrx mitch on October 27, 2021, 07:00:57 PM
How the heck are you getting that anywhere on the handlebars?

Ram ball mount on the risers, with a 6" extension arm to raise it up to the same height as the bar risers.
Title: Re: Phone mount?
Post by: Wes Carper on December 20, 2021, 12:00:04 PM
Why not use a clutch perch mount?
Title: Re: Phone mount?
Post by: maxtog on December 20, 2021, 03:08:16 PM
Why not use a clutch perch mount?

User preference.  Personally, I wouldn't want something that high and to the side.  But it is a perfectly valid option.
Title: Re: Phone mount?
Post by: jonathan on March 29, 2022, 11:48:11 AM
Here is another option for mounting:

http://projektd.com/product_info.php?products_id=162&osCsid=c51a201f8705bc31840fc992d5f651b1

(http://projektd.com/images/products/handle-bars/framework/gtr1400/115_03_p.jpg)
Title: Re: Phone mount?
Post by: lather on March 31, 2022, 08:21:13 AM
My Ram X-Grip let go of my Galaxy A01 the other day at 120 mph. There was no shoulder and logging truck traffic so I could not stop or turn around for half a mile. So was not sure where I needed to search. Searched the ditches on both sides for an hour where I thought it should be without luck. Rode home and got online and logged into my Samsung account.  Samsung quickly located the exact position of my phone on a map and I went back and quickly found it.

The phone is in a Lanhiem  IP68 Waterproof Dustproof Shockproof Case with Built-in Screen Protector case. The screen protector had two tears and edges of the case were scuffed but the phone was undamaged.

The X-grip comes with the black x shaped rubber band thing to secure the phone but foolishly, I never bothered with it.
Title: Re: Phone mount?
Post by: kzz1king on March 31, 2022, 10:39:47 AM
Wowsa! That's a good case. I drilled 2 small holes in my case and added a string (cord) . It makes a loop and I always  throw it over the x mount. It has saved me a few times. I was always parked but managed to not mount it properly and have it fall out.
Title: Re: Phone mount?
Post by: maxtog on March 31, 2022, 05:59:40 PM
The phone is in a Lanhiem  IP68 Waterproof Dustproof Shockproof Case with Built-in Screen Protector case. The screen protector had two tears and edges of the case were scuffed but the phone was undamaged.

That is pretty amazing it survived.  What do you think caused it to release?  Maybe not inserted properly?  My X-Grip seems extraordinarily strong.  I am always worried, but never even a hint of a problem, year after year, regardless of phone or conditions.  I don't even use much of a case (just a very thin thing, no screen protection).  But once I did kinda miss ONE of the legs (I was doing it in the dark) and it still held it.

Quote
The X-grip comes with the black x shaped rubber band thing to secure the phone but foolishly, I never bothered with it.

Mine didn't come with such a thing.  Wouldn't that cover the screen?
Title: Re: Phone mount?
Post by: lather on April 01, 2022, 09:55:49 AM
I blame the Shouldabeen Mountain Runner flash  ;) I was accelerating so hard the grip could not stand it. I probably hit a gust of headwind as I was hitting about 120
Pic of the rubber thingy, does not block screen.
(https://webobjects2.cdw.com/is/image/CDW/4812496?$product-detail$)
Title: Re: Phone mount?
Post by: maxtog on April 01, 2022, 03:30:39 PM
Not sure I understand.  Does that go UNDER the phone or something? Some part of it would have to cover some part of the screen....

Update:  https://www.amazon.com/RAM-Mounts-RAM-HOL-UN10TU-Compatible-Holders/dp/B017STJY4I

Yep, it would cover perts of the screen.  If that were on my phone, it would cut off all four corners of the display.  Perhaps it works OK with huge cases or old phones, but my Samsung A52 screen is edge-to-edge.  I would never use it.
Title: Re: Phone mount?
Post by: lather on April 02, 2022, 07:10:31 AM
Yes, it covers the corners. I used mine once and threw it away. The X-grip holds fine without it at any reasonable speed. I plan to just keep a simple rubber band handy to slip on whenever the need for speed takes over. ;D
Title: Re: Phone mount?
Post by: Oilman on February 20, 2023, 05:30:42 AM
Has anyone found a good stem mount for the C14 yet? the 12 mm hex opening seems to be very difficult to find a good tight fit for. Especially because of the lip on the top of the nut. Can the top cover be replaces to widen the opening? That would create several new options for a stem mount. I have scoured the internet and  YouTube and found that most mounts are made for an opening of 13 mm with round holes not hex. I used a ram ball mount but after tightening a few times, the rubber grommet totally falls apart. It will not fall out, but it's not a solid super tight fit.
Title: Re: Phone mount?
Post by: Big Red on February 20, 2023, 12:24:05 PM
I replaced one of the bolts holding the handlebar to the tree with a ram ball. https://amazon.com/gp/product/B005J43I56/
Title: Re: Phone mount?
Post by: maxtog on February 20, 2023, 04:51:58 PM
Yeah, personally, I think the RAM ball mounted on something else is just much easier.  That is what I did- I bought risers that had a RAM ball on them.  Using the appropriate stuff, I can have my phone almost exactly in the center, even though the ball is on one side of one riser.  They hold surprisingly well.

Of course, since Google *RUINED* Android for motorcycle use last year by making the Android Auto app disappear (and what "replaces" it is useless), I don't bother mounting my phone anymore.  :(
Title: Re: Phone mount?
Post by: Rexter on March 11, 2023, 08:43:43 PM
I’ve got this thing that I no longer use. I cant remember the brand name. It mounts between the bars at the bolts closest to the tank. The stem goes into the bracket and the plate goes on the stem. You can mount a ball on the stem as well. Make me an offer shipped.

ETA: It will not work with wedges on the risers.

(https://i.ibb.co/vH2nD5L/7-BB8-B32-C-3-F6-F-4-FAA-A357-CB3-AAFF94-C45.jpg)