Kawasaki Concours Forum
The C-14, aka Kawasaki Concours-14, the new one :) => The Bike - C14/GTR 1400 => Topic started by: CB Schmaltz on June 06, 2012, 08:36:38 AM
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Hello
does any one know NAPA or other oil filter company
that has a filter for the new Con 14
cycle gear wanted $15 for a filter
I recall there was a napa for the Gen 1 Con
BTW
AMA race in SLC was awwwwwsome
will try and go again next year
best regards from snowy Mt Hood
yep we go some fresh last night down to 4000 ft 8)
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You're kidding, right? First vehicle you've owned? Never use the web before? Don't know how to read the cross-reference books in the stores?
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Amazon.com carries the KN 303 (that costs exactly 15 at cycle gear) for $10. http://www.amazon.com/KN-303-Motorcycle-Powersports-Performance-Filter/dp/B000E2CVIS/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1338994229&sr=8-1 (http://www.amazon.com/KN-303-Motorcycle-Powersports-Performance-Filter/dp/B000E2CVIS/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1338994229&sr=8-1)
Or the NAPA store guy can help you cross reference theirs at the store, they are quite common.
If you need more help, 'holler (http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j180/stevewfl/bigthumb.gif)
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You do realize that we have a Wiki area for this type of information?
http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?topic=1650.0 (http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?topic=1650.0)
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You're kidding, right? First vehicle you've owned? Never use the web before? Don't know how to read the cross-reference books in the stores?
Really?? You could just point him to the wiki just as Jim did instead of acting all self righteous.
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Really?? You could just point him to the wiki just as Jim did instead of acting all self righteous.
That dude is just like that. Must be unhappy about somethin'
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Really?? You could just point him to the wiki just as Jim did instead of acting all self righteous.
Yes, really.
The OP's question was ridiculous for all of the reasons that I mentioned. Nothing to do with self-righteousness. There is nothing esoteric not difficult in buying an oil filter for a modern motorcycle.
And the chief clown's regular stupid and inane comments get really boring after a while.
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That's what this board is here for, to help others. About a year and a half ago I bought my first Concours, I got a lot of help here, I was on Gold Wings for 26 years and could answer just about you could ask about a Wing but I knew nothing about the Concours. Thanks to all the helpful people here I have learned a lot.
We are not all born with everything we need to know.
And I get my oil filters from my dealer, just a little over $9.00 with tax.
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Here you go - http://bit.ly/KgHaJR (http://bit.ly/KgHaJR)
:rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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Yes, really.
The OP's question was ridiculous for all of the reasons that I mentioned. Nothing to do with self-righteousness. There is nothing esoteric not difficult in buying an oil filter for a modern motorcycle.
And the chief clown's regular stupid and inane comments get really boring after a while.
If you think a question is beneath your level of intellegence all you have to do is ignore it an go back to what ever important things you have going and just let the next person answer it. Chill out.
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As far as Jim sending him to the WIKI area that is a great resource he probably doesn’t know about ...Yet.
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Fram all the way! :thumbs:
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As far as Jim sending him to the WIKI area that is a great resource he probably doesn’t know about ...Yet.
That's (Wiki) an area that A LOT OF US MISS due to it being located outside of the bike model year section. I know, I know ..... there is a LINK! But with the Wiki at the bottom of the page, it doesn't catch my eye when something new has been posted in it. I do think that the Wiki section is a good thing. But it just doesn't get used as much as it should be because where it is located at on the web page.
Sorry folks. Rant over.
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Yes, really.
The OP's question was ridiculous for all of the reasons that I mentioned. Nothing to do with self-righteousness. There is nothing esoteric not difficult in buying an oil filter for a modern motorcycle.
And the chief clown's regular stupid and inane comments get really boring after a while.
Bad troll!
Nice job hijacking this thread and making it your own.
Guy was simply looking for some info out of fellow concours riders and you have made us all look like a bunch of jerks and made him feel like it was a mistake even to come to this forum.
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the napa gold number is 1358 hope this helps.
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Fram: PH6017A
K&N: KN-303
Wallmart Supertech: ST7317
Wouldn't recommend Supertech 10/40 oil. Seems to make the top end a little more noisy. YRMV ;) ;)
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I am joking about the Fram by the way. ;) Cant see how paying 15 dollars for an excellent OEM oil filter is too much, the owners manual even states to change it every other change "which I do".
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I was shopping for a filter yesterday, armed with the Wiki and the VFR filter list (same filter) as well. But it aint easy anymore when you get to the store. hardly any of those numbers are still valid. All I could find was the Fram for 6.99 which is probably Chinese paper mache Junk or a Dueushbag (sp) Diamond Platinum Gold for 11.99. What happened to my trusty SuperTech for 2.88?
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Please note that the Wiki area for the C14 is open for updates and if anything new crops up I usually add it in. So far, nothing new has cropped up. It's only as good as what the membership provides. It is your Wiki area. I just maintain it.
That's (Wiki) an area that A LOT OF US MISS due to it being located outside of the bike model year section. I know, I know ..... there is a LINK! But with the Wiki at the bottom of the page, it doesn't catch my eye when something new has been posted in it. I do think that the Wiki section is a good thing. But it just doesn't get used as much as it should be because where it is located at on the web page.
Sorry folks. Rant over.
That's wrong. There's a hot link right under the C14 Accessory board. Now it did have the word FAQ in it and there have been 4500 plus clicks on it (not all of them mine), so someone is looking at them. To me, FAQ and Wiki are synonymous. However, I did add the word Wiki to it so hopefully that will clear up the confusion some.
Fram: PH6017A
K&N: KN-303
Wallmart Supertech: ST7317
Wouldn't recommend Supertech 10/40 oil. Seems to make the top end a little more noisy. YRMV ;) ;)
As far as I know, Supertech filters aren't available from Walmart anymore.
Bad troll!
Nice job hijacking this thread and making it your own.
Guy was simply looking for some info out of fellow concours riders and you have made us all look like a bunch of jerks and made him feel like it was a mistake even to come to this forum.
Clyde is not a troll. He's been with us since the inception of the forum. He tells it like he sees it. Sometimes we agree and sometimes we don't . Characters welcome here...for the most part.
As far as the general tone of a thread goes, it can waver like the heat waves coming off asphalt on a hot summer day. Goes all over the place. I think having a sense of humor helps in mitigating some of the comments made. I am not immune. I am the Rodney Dangerfield of admins. It also helps to leave your ego away from the keyboard. I make fun and others make fun of me. It's up to the OP and other members to wade through the chaff to get to the real answers, but sometimes there aren't any unfortunately, and all you get is what you get.
If all you want is seriousness and short answers, this isn't the forum for you. I am not the 'oldest' member here but I've been around since Aug of 07. I'm still here even with all the shenanigans going on. Made some good friends as well. Take the forum for what it's worth (actually worth quite a bit if you take the time to read the posts) and enjoy yourself.
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Clyde is not a troll. He's been with us since the inception of the forum. He tells it like he sees it. Sometimes we agree and sometimes we don't . Characters welcome here...for the most part.
As far as the general tone of a thread goes, it can waver like the heat waves coming off asphalt on a hot summer day. Goes all over the place. I think having a sense of humor helps in mitigating some of the comments made. I am not immune. I am the Rodney Dangerfield of admins. It also helps to leave your ego away from the keyboard. I make fun and others make fun of me. It's up to the OP and other members to wade through the chaff to get to the real answers, but sometimes there aren't any unfortunately, and all you get is what you get.
If all you want is seriousness and short answers, this isn't the forum for you. I am not the 'oldest' member here but I've been around since Aug of 07. I'm still here even with all the shenanigans going on. Made some good friends as well. Take the forum for what it's worth (actually worth quite a bit if you take the time to read the posts) and enjoy yourself.
Well said Jim. :thumbs:
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What happened to the post about the Champion (SuperTech)filters for less than 3.00 from Summit racing?
I thought it was here but I cannot find it. Anyway, thanks and the poster said he did not know what the shipping charge was. I just ordered 6 and the shipping was 4.95
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Moved to the Wiki..... Usually there is a re-direct on moving threads but I see there isn't for merges. I'll have to work on that.
http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?topic=1650.msg111104#msg111104 (http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?topic=1650.msg111104#msg111104)
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Moved to the Wiki..... Usually there is a re-direct on moving threads but I see there isn't for merges. I'll have to work on that.
http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?topic=1650.msg111104#msg111104 (http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?topic=1650.msg111104#msg111104)
Thanks Jim, I feel better now, I guess...
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Well, this thread is going off track. But I too agree with Jim.
I do not have anything against lt1 - I have seen some great posts from him. He spoke his mind in the thread, and I felt the need to speak mine. As many others have pointed out, want to show the OP that not all share the same sentiment as lt1 - right, wrong or different.
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:grouphug: that is what I think!!!
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As far as I know, Supertech filters aren't available from Walmart anymore.
Probably why I couldn't find any :banghead: :banghead:
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:chugbeer:
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WELLLLLLLL
Now tell him the proper oil to use ::) ::) ;D
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WELLLLLLLL
Now tell him the proper oil to use ::) ::) ;D
Anything but Scamsoil. ;)
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I usually get the OEM Kawasaki filters from a dealer for less than $8/piece.
I would not shop for a filter at cycle gear. Or for anything else for that matter. They are on my short **** list right now. They sold me a pressure gauge that reads 40 psi, not matter what the actual pressure is. :(
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....If all you want is seriousness and short answers, this isn't the forum for you. I am not the 'oldest' member here ....
can't get no respect....
http://youtu.be/ZCVR_ajL_Eo (http://youtu.be/ZCVR_ajL_Eo)
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I wasn't thinking about you, when I made that statement, Rich. ;D
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I usually get the OEM Kawasaki filters from a dealer for less than $8/piece.
I would not shop for a filter at cycle gear. Or for anything else for that matter. They are on my short list right now. They sold me a pressure gauge that reads 40 psi, not matter what the actual pressure is. :(
Are you saying that a cheap retail part failed and you took no effort to give the retailer a chance to remedy the issue, or are you saying they refused to repair/replace a newly purchase item, or what?
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Stopped by our local NAPA to pick up a couple 1358's. $17 each!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Told the parts guy I was sorry for wasting his time but I just couldnt pay that price. Came home, went to Amazon, and ordered 4 wix 51358's for something like $28 with free shipping to boot.
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Stopped by our local NAPA to pick up a couple 1358's. $17 each!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Told the parts guy I was sorry for wasting his time but I just couldnt pay that price. Came home, went to Amazon, and ordered 4 wix 51358's for something like $28 with free shipping to boot.
I got you beat with 6 Champion 7317s from Summit for $32 delivered.
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your napa is ripping you off. i get them for under 6.00 bucks at mine.and thats for the napa gold
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your napa is ripping you off. i get them for under 6.00 bucks at mine.and thats for the napa gold
Welcome to our world, the dreaded "Alaska Tax". Stores here think just because we live up here they can charge whatever they want. To bad they don't realize we do have internet:)
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Are you saying that a cheap retail part failed and you took no effort to give the retailer a chance to remedy the issue, or are you saying they refused to repair/replace a newly purchase item, or what?
Just kidding, I got the gauge replaced.
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WOW, three pages for a stinkin filter. I forgot to bring the NAPA P/N for a C14 filter with me one time and they could not find the filter either. I have gotten all my filters from them. Went back to the house, went to Wiki got the number went back to NAPA and found they even had one in stock. I don't remember what I paid because I was in sticker shock over the price of 10/40 M/C oil.
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We're overdue for some fresh exploding drive shafts threads, we've been beating oil products and flying bags for a while now (http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j180/stevewfl/bigthumb.gif)
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perhaps I should have asked with more detail....
some thing like
$15 is too f______ MUCH FOR A BIKE FILTER
anyone use any thing beside Kaw and K & N
with good results
BTW thanxs for the info
will try the links and fram or napa
and dont blame me if some one starts in on
What kind of OIL 2 use ;)
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;D
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If you love your bike, stay away from FRAM.
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fram filters are junk. napa or wix are both good quality filters.there both made by wix
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I don't remember what I paid because I was in sticker shock over the price of 10/40 M/C oil.
I found to my amazement that Kawasaki filter/oil prices at my local dealer were comparable, or even better than aftermarket prices on equivalent products.
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Who makes the oil filters for Kawi??
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Items Ordered Qty Price
K&N KN-303 - SP OIL FILTER 6 $9.99 ea. Delivered
StreetSideAuto.com
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I found to my amazement that Kawasaki filter/oil prices at my local dealer were comparable, or even better than aftermarket prices on equivalent products.
Might be true for you. Closest Kawasaki dealer to me is 60 miles. The price of gas takes care of getting any savings.
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I buy my oil and filters from my local Kaw dealer. Prices are reasonable, and I get a chance to do some tire kickin at the same time. Interesting note: my dealer sells both Kaw oil and Suzuki oil. The Kaw oil is $2 less per 5 quart jug than is the Suz oil, even though they are of the same weight, grade, and bear the same specs.
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I buy my oil and filters from my local Kaw dealer. Prices are reasonable, and I get a chance to do some tire kickin at the same time. Interesting note: my dealer sells both Kaw oil and Suzuki oil. The Kaw oil is $2 less per 5 quart jug than is the Suz oil, even though they are of the same weight, grade, and bear the same specs.
I would never put Suzuki oil in my Kawasaki. I also have a GSXR 1000 and once I mixed up which oil went in which bike. It wasn't pretty. The Concours started to feel like a GSXR and the GSXR started to feel like a Concours! :o
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I would never put Suzuki oil in my Kawasaki. I also have a GSXR 1000 and once I mixed up which oil went in which bike. It wasn't pretty. The Concours started to feel like a GSXR and the GSXR started to feel like a Concours! :o
My kid ate a dog biscuit once. Next thing you know, he's chasin' the UPS truck! ;-)
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Way to go resurrecting a year old thread!
I do want to point out a few things.
1) The oil filter from a yamaha fz1 fits the concours and vice versa
2) the same filters also fit my nisssan vq37vhr engine, only difference is they don't say yamaha or kawasaki on them.
Might be some internal differences too, but wix seems to cross reference them all to the same wix part number.
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I realize this is an old thread, but I thought I'd add some useful information. I've always gone by the Oil filter cross reference on the CalCsi site. http://www.calsci.com/motorcycleinfo/FilterXRef.html (http://www.calsci.com/motorcycleinfo/FilterXRef.html)
They break down some filters and compare the filter construction and total filter media surface area. The C14 isn't listed explicitly, but I've cross referenced the OEM filter number against other bikes in the list and you can use any of the filters in list [5] on the site.
I prefer to use the Mobil 1 M1-110 and have used them on all my bikes except for my SV1000 which was a different thread pitch. They aren't all that expensive either, $17.32 2 pack from Amazon with free prime shipping.
I just wanted to point this out because I don't see the M1-110 in the oil filter list in the Wiki.
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Does the M1-110 cross to the Kwak filter? It's not on the Mobil 1 site (Not a very good site actually for MC oil filters. In fact it sucks) and I tried Amazon and it comes up that it doesn't 'fit'. Looks like it's a car filter based on what I see (not that it's a bad thing but let's be very clear that it's not recognized as the proper fitment for a C14). The M1-110 is also an extended oil drain filter to be used with Mobil 1 extended performance oil (15k miles, I think). I don't think I'd want to keep the oil in my bike that long. I don't believe that they (Mobil 1) make a recommended MC oil with a drain interval of 15k miles. Please correct me if I'm wrong on that.
With all that being said, I'm modifying the Wiki to indicate exact fitment vs fitment of another nature. One can make their own choice in the matter. But for me, it will always be exact fitment for the C14 as specified by the manufacturer of the filter. It doesn't cost that much more to add a filter that's specified for the bike vs anecdotal evidence of other filters that mechanically work.
I will add the M1-110 to the Wiki under the other filters heading.
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Thanks for making that distinction and adding it. Yes Jim, you are correct. The M1-110 does not officially cross to the C14. It is a car filter. As such, there will be no endorsement from Mobil 1 to install this on any motorcycle. However, the thread pitch, by-pass and drain back pressure appear to be acceptable for motorcycles where this filter fits (someone else's research, not mine).
I have personally used this filter on a Z1000, Sprint ST, EX500, and now my C14. I didn't use it on my SV1000 because Suzuki uses a different thread pitch for their oil filters. About 50k miles between all of them and none of them had engine issues. Sometimes I even used Rotella oil in my bikes. *gasp*
Also, while this may be an extended performance filter, there is no requirement to change oil at any extended interval. My personal belief with oil filters is that the more sq in of media for trapping particles in the oil, the better. I change oil and filter at 5k miles or when the shifting gets notchy. If someone wanted a smaller filter, the M1-108 is the same filter just shorter.
There is some good general reading about oil filters on the Calsci site, they dissect some filters and talk about the construction and what they found in various major brands of filter. I'd recommend giving it a read even if you aren't interested in using the Mobil 1 filter.