Kawasaki Concours Forum
The C-14, aka Kawasaki Concours-14, the new one :) => The Bike - C14/GTR 1400 => Topic started by: reesedp on June 19, 2011, 06:16:34 PM
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Went out to change oil etc and found that the "guard" around the drain plug had broken most of the way off. Expensive to replace the oil pan I imagine. Plug was slightly damaged on one face, but was easy to repair with a file.
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What year bike?
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scrape the bottom?
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Has to be an 08/09. 10/11s have the oil plug facing the front.
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Has to be an 08/09. 10/11s have the oil plug facing the front.
Well that's what I'm ass-suming unless the OP says otherwise. If 2010/11 have to wonder how he did it. Courtesy of being a racer, I've learned never to assume that someone can't find a new and truly amazing way to break things.
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I have the '08. Possibly happened on a speed bump, but seeing as how only the center portion was gone more likely a rock I guess.
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I had a 2008 but paid $300 for a Oil Pan 2010.
A friend of mine had this problem two mounth ago during a trip.
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JH, what parts, other than the pan, did you need? I've been thinking about this mod for awhile but was waiting for someone else to try it first.
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Almost did the same thing loading mine onto a trailer. The top of the ramp caught the drain plug guard but was lucky it didn't do the damage pictured above.
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JH, what parts, other than the pan, did you need? I've been thinking about this mod for awhile but was waiting for someone else to try it first.
What? No more badminton birdie on the back of a Concours (or whatever the picture was supposed to be). Now a knight with a waving sword? Delusions of grandeur? ;D
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A speed bump could do that? I'm gonna look at the clearance on mine.
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What? No more badminton birdie on the back of a Concours (or whatever the picture was supposed to be). Now a knight with a waving sword? Delusions of grandeur? ;D
No, checking out an avatar that is animated.... Daleks still rule of course... Probably switch back tomorrow.
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JH, what parts, other than the pan, did you need? I've been thinking about this mod for awhile but was waiting for someone else to try it first.
I'm not sure because i haven`t installed the pan oil yet.
But all the reference including the gasket are the same between the 2008 and 2010 models.
I friend of mine must been installing the parts this week.
I'll be alert.
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I'm not sure because i haven`t installed the pan oil yet.
But all the reference including the gasket are the same between the 2008 and 2010 models.
I friend of mine must been installing the parts this week.
I'll be alert.
Please keep us updated. I would like to add this to the C14 Wiki once you've gone through it.
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What? No more badminton birdie on the back of a Concours (or whatever the picture was supposed to be). Now a knight with a waving sword? Delusions of grandeur? ;D
Badminton birdie? You need to brush up on your classic cyborgs man! ;D
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Badminton birdie? You need to brush up on your classic cyborgs man! ;D
I couldn't make up my mind as to whether it was a badminton birdie or a salt shaker. Cyborgs, classic or otherwise, were never on the short list of possibilities.
I actually kinda like the sword-swinger. More "moderator-ish"
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Yep, think I'm gonna keep it for now. Has the right emblem on it anyway...
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Badminton birdie? You need to brush up on your classic cyborgs man! ;D
I knew it was a robot but it always looked like a salt shaker to me.
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Went out to change oil etc and found that the "guard" around the drain plug had broken most of the way off. Expensive to replace the oil pan I imagine. Plug was slightly damaged on one face, but was easy to repair with a file.
I had a nearly identical experience with my 08.
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Scarry! my bike is lower up front 1" and 1.5 at the rear!!!
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Scarry! my bike is lower up front 1" and 1.5 at the rear!!!
Better keep that front wheel off the ground Joel... ;)
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I have just broke my oil pan this evening. I have a 2009 and was wondering about your experience using the updated pan. I want to order all the parts i need to do it at one time.
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I have just broke my oil pan this evening. I have a 2009 and was wondering about your experience using the updated pan. I want to order all the parts i need to do it at one time.
How did you manage to do that?
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It's easier than you think. Doesn't take much of a bump to contact it. I would think most of us have a few scrapes and dings on it. Mine does.
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I was riding down Interstate passing a group of cars when a chunk of asphalt was kicked into my lane from the cars I was passing. I hit it with the front tire, the bike "hopped up" and I continued down the road. When I got home I parked the Connie in the garage. When I went to leave again there was a puddle of oil under the bike. The chunk apparently hit the oil drain and it's protectors. Cracked the pan.
It may be more common than you think, and may have a problem. The 2010 and newer have a redesigned oil pan. from what I have read, the drain now is in the front of the pan.
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Wow sorry for the tough break !
Glad it didn't oil down your rear tire.
I wonder if switching to a Button head allen bolt wouldn"t be a bad idea for the rest of us 08/09"s.
Anyone have the specs./size on this bolt handy ?
http://www.mcmaster.com/#metric-button-head-screws/=hiizmv (http://www.mcmaster.com/#metric-button-head-screws/=hiizmv)
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Actually, that's not a bad idea. But I think you would need to grind off the guard too.
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I hit something and broke the guard off of my pan and also ground a corner off the bolt.
(http://www.lamsta.com/gallery/drainbolt02.jpg)
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Well, I removed the body work and gave a closer look. The part of the pan that is leaking is where the guard attaches to the pan. I as well have abrasion marks on the drain plug. Ordering the parts I need now. Hopefully they will be here soon, I have a week long ride planed for the week after Memorial Day.
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Looks like this would be them.
M12—Pitch: 1.75 mm
16 5
Part # 91239A610
$ 6.20 PK.
http://www.mcmaster.com/#metric-button-head-screws/=hip2bl (http://www.mcmaster.com/#metric-button-head-screws/=hip2bl)
Factory is the 12 x 15 mm length and these come at 16 mm length. So would have to make sure they don"t bottom.
Cheap enough for peace of mind on the nxt. oil change.
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I don't know Jim, the oil pans seem to be self- grinding.
Brian
Actually, that's not a bad idea. But I think you would need to grind off the guard too.
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I don't know Jim, the oil pans seem to be self- grinding.
LOL!
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Or, as I was going to say, let nature take it's course. There is a reason Kwak moved the plug in the pan on the 10 models on forward.
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I searched this morning for a low profile bolt to replace the oil drain plug. Basically, its nothign more than a 12mm x1.5 (fine thread) metric bolt. I imagine something 10-15mm long woudl be ok. Sadly, nothing is commonly available. A few guys sold some on the forums, but thats been several years ago.
One option was a bolt from Navistar that fit a fuel rail. No idea on a part number. The other option was from NAPA. The part number was BK 7041384. The cost is low..or was. I'll try to find oen of these tomorrow and see what they look like.
Once a low profile bolt is in place, the guard itself can be trimmed and free up some badly needed clearance. I also priced the new style oil pan from Service Honda (Service Kawasaki) and the total price, with gaskets, is under 200.00. Probably right at 200 with shipping. I'll probably go this route as soon as I get an ass-full of searching for a non-existent bolt.
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IIRC the oil drain plug from a Sea Doo will fit and it is a button head screw.
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Update= These are the wrongs ones with the 1.75 mm pitch !
Sorry about that !
Looks like this would be them.
M12—Pitch: 1.75 mm
16 5
Part # 91239A610
$ 6.20 PK.
http://www.mcmaster.com/#metric-button-head-screws/=hip2bl (http://www.mcmaster.com/#metric-button-head-screws/=hip2bl)
Factory is the 12 x 15 mm length and these come at 16 mm length. So would have to make sure they don"t bottom.
Cheap enough for peace of mind on the nxt. oil change.
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I ordered the NAPA ones today...just over 2.00 each. They'll be here Thursday, so we'll see if they are any good.
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I hate button head bolts/screws. At least the ones that Kawasaki has installed with high strength thread lock. They're made for striping heads. Just wait until you can't get one of them out of the bottom of your drain pan! You'll be taking the drain pan off just to get the bolt off. :yikes:
The best solution is to avoid rolling over curbs and slow down for speed bumps.
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I hate button head bolts/screws. At least the ones that Kawasaki has installed with high strength thread lock. They're made for striping heads. Just wait until you can't get one of them out of the bottom of your drain pan! You'll be taking the drain pan off just to get the bolt off. :yikes:
The best solution is to avoid rolling over curbs and slow down for speed bumps.
How you gonna catch some air on those sweet jumps that way?
(http://thumbnails.hulu.com/6/288/4430_512x288_manicured__JbMNQc-AmEOfi6+KFCZf6w.jpg)