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Mish mash => Open Forum => Topic started by: gPink on March 26, 2013, 04:08:03 AM
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I'm at a loss of what to say about this.
http://youtu.be/yznFsCFulLY (http://youtu.be/yznFsCFulLY)
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Any wonder they're broke? :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
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I've always maintained that you have to be a complete and utter moron to go hungry in this country. They got their cell phones, cable TV and money for cigarettes though huh?
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I've always maintained that you have to be a complete and utter moron to go hungry in this country. They got their cell phones, cable TV and money for cigarettes though huh?
I would understand feeding complete and utter morons. The people in the add were not 'traditional'
poor. What 'bothers' (too gentle?) me is that this administration has made 'food assistance' a normal enough part of American life and have gotten enough people hooked on it that there is enough profit to be made to support a private enterprise.
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So who's "traditionally" poor? Thats a loaded reply huh? ;D I know what you mean, also, who is the ad aimed at? So folks living in the suburbs in driving SUV's need assistance? Believe it or not, yes, I see it every day at work.
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It's gone way beyond need.
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I will agree to that. The more people are in need of Gov't, the more Gov't can control them. Haven't we seen that before?
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...sigh... everyday Boss, everyday
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Mothers seem to love the place
"It's so much easier and faster for me to shop at Mother's!"
- Karla of Perris,CA
"Mother's Nutritional Center is quick and easy to get what you need. I am able to avoid long grocery store lines, which is great!"
- Anonymous Customer from Perris, CA
"At Mother's Nutritional Center their friendly staff does the shopping for you and they help you to your car, what can be better than that?!"
- Anonymous Customer from Baldwin Park, CA
"MNC is an excellent place to go if you receive food vouchers. They help you out to your car and their service is excellent."
- Sally of Ontario
"They are very friendly and have great customer service!"
- Carrina of Fontana
"This store saves from the embarrassment of going to a chain store. I have found that the chain stores frown upon women who present their vouchers. I feel more comfortable in coming here since it cater's to those who use food vouchers."
- Elsa M of Santa Ana
"The staff are always very friendly and helpful. The service is quick, and then if you like, they'll help you to the car with your groceries. Overall, you can't beat the convenience and ease of shopping here with your Food Vouchers!"
- Elizabeth H of Pomona
"Mother's Nutritional Center has all state approved foods on the food voucher program, so mom's never have to experience another frustrating trip to the local market. The people working at this store are some of the friendliest people in town. Not only did they ring me up (and offer me a free gift just for shopping there) but they offered to walk my groceries to my car. You've got to try it!"
- Monica M of Los Angeles
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Ummmm...so they actually shop for you and provide short term day care. How F'n awesome is that :o
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Ummmm...so they actually shop for you and provide short term day care. How F'n awesome is that :o
Wouldn't want to burden the mothers with that work
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Hmmm.. California the bastion of self reliance, freedom from government interference, fiscal responsibility and social responsibility.... NOT!!
Just another example of the feds ( taxpayer money) indirectly bailing out a state that has policies that will drive away businesses ( except for Mothers of course) and will ultimately bankrupt the state). Now the recipients of food "vouchers" don't even have to shop or transport their (our) purchases to their car. What next...in home chefs??
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Who needs a father when the government can take his place (with his money).
Enjoy the Decline.
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You do realize that this is a private company and not the government providing the store front? And from what I can gather on the 'Net, it's only in CA. The government provides the vouchers and they can be redeemed at any grocery store that accepts them. What I don't understand is how this private company can make any money doing this unless their costs are extremely low. I don't know how the voucher system works, though, as far as recouping actual money to the grocery store owners, themselves.
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The fact that a private company can make enough profit from food stamp sales alone is deeply troubling to me. I assume, knowing how assumptions can turn out, business' that accept 'vouchers' get reimbursed at full retail from the fedgov.
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With the HUGE amount of time saved by shopping at Mother's it seems that some mothers are going to have a lot of extra time on their hands. Instead of watching the ID channel maybe these mothers can look for a job or perhaps clean their house?
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This is the new business model. Gotta hand it to the owners of this business. Why appeal to an ever-decreasing consumer base in the private market when you can get gov’t money recycled into profits. No worries about the cost of o-care, etc. A steady, ever-increasing clientele. No “shame” for “independent” single moms who don’t need a man around.
AND the gov’t candidate with the most promises of freestuff get power and make us pay.
This is great. I wish I thought of it.
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I am one of the lazy slugs "mooching off the system". I earned 6 digits for over 15 years. One business I opened employed 70 union journeymen. I payed LOTS of tax in my life. My 401k was invested "safely" in US gov securities, $270K down the toilet. I also earned a pension. A federal Bankruptcy judge released Daimler from paying me. More of what was mine down the toilet.
I have had 5 heart attacks since January 2012. I worked until Nov 2012, often two jobs. My employer was unable to accommodate my physical work restrictions. My real interest was going to the mission field. Because of obvious health reasons, the mission board will not send me anywhere.
In Jan 2013 I started receiving $111.00 per week on unemployment. That ends in 4 months. I have been turned down for SS disability, something I paid the max on for multiple years. I paid private long term disability insurance premiums for years. Cigna insurance says I am not disabled either.
I have interviewed 4 times for jobs that were well within my skill set and experience. No company will even consider having me on payroll due to insurance problems. The Not for profit world where I spend a lot of volunteer time loves my work but has no money to meet my needs. Their insurance company will not allow them to take on my health liabilities either.
A middle age man who owns a home and has a little savings left that the government has not stolen, does not qualify for any of this gravy. It is really frustrating to see videos like this.
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Unemployment insurance is not "mooching" off the system, provided of course you have paid into the unemployment insurance program. Which I would say is obvious that you did.
I hope this program stays in Kali, keeps the rifraf where it belongs. Anyone willing to bet this store is subsidized with federal $$?
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This is not just a net vid. This is a teley ad running in the LA market.
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Unemployment insurance is not "mooching" off the system, provided of course you have paid into the unemployment insurance program. Which I would say is obvious that you did.
I hope this program stays in Kali, keeps the rifraf where it belongs. Anyone willing to bet this store is subsidized with federal $$?
Nope, according to what I read it's a private company.
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This simply looks like a grocery business catering to people using food stamps. Smart business model. This market is probably growing and all they have to do to take share is put on a friendly face for food stamp customers.
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The problem remains that the fedgov is the root cause. I don't blame the business.
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The problem remains that the fedgov is the root cause. I don't blame the business.
+1 :thumbs:
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(http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/579949_399670413463720_747732726_n.jpg)
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(http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/579949_399670413463720_747732726_n.jpg)
My mom broke more than one wooden spoon on my backside and look at how well I turned out. 8)
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You mean nobody else got the hand mixer power cord used on them? :o
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this
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I would love to comment on the ignorance of some people on this subject because I've was there once as a child. If you don't understand the situation maybe you were never there.
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Please comment.
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I would love to comment on the ignorance of some people on this subject because I've was there once as a child. If you don't understand the situation maybe you were never there.
I'm sorry, ignorant how? I am always in for a hand up but I am always against a hand out. I fully understand the difference, do you?
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I'm sorry, ignorant how? I am always in for a hand up but I am always against a hand out. I fully understand the difference, do you?
+1
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I would love to comment on the ignorance of some people on this subject because I've was there once as a child. If you don't understand the situation maybe you were never there.
Don't hold back now. Us ignorant folk need to be schooled.
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Before this gets ugly lets keep it tame. I would like an open discussion and true exchange of ideas. Lets not get this sent you know where.
Thanks.
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I'm sorry, ignorant how? I am always in for a hand up but I am always against a hand out. I fully understand the difference, do you?
Yes I do. When you have NOTHING to eat you don't care if it's a hand up or a hand out. If you want to berate people do it to the individual and not everybody as a whole.
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The first question I would ask is why they have nothing to eat. The second question is what will be received in return for help. Rules of reciprocity. For balance to be achieved there must be an equal give and take. To always take will always result in a shortage that must be refilled by someone.
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I believe this whole thread is more concerned with the wanton abuse of the program rather than the program itself. Especially when the abuse is sponsored by the fedgov.
And I would also like to keep this for an open discussion rather than the Arena if possible. It would be easy to get this thrown off the board but not necessary.
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The first question I would ask is why they have nothing to eat. The second question is what will be received in return for help. Rules of reciprocity. For balance to be achieved there must be an equal give and take. To always take will always result in a shortage that must be refilled by someone.
They was me! In my younger days after my dad was discharged from the US Army because of a lung disease. He had a steady job but had to go to a VA hospital to get 2/3 of his lung removed. He was gone for a month and a half and my mother was home with 4 young children. She got assistance 'til my father was able to go back to work. One month the check came late and we literally had NO food in the house.
Are there people that abuse the system? Sure but there are also people with children that without food stamps would NOT have anything to eat. Don't lump everybody together that are on food stamps. In a lot of cases a family loses the bread winner. Death, divorce, or gone to jail. Will you take the children into your home 'til mom or dad finds a job that pays enough to feed, house and clothe them?
Well??
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I'm sorry for your past troubles and I'm glad you had help when you needed it. I hope the system works for others that find themselves in similar situations. That being said, 44 million people are getting food assistance now. That's 1 in 7. The USDA has ads on TV encouraging people to sign up. Spending other peoples money has become an industry in itself. When a private sector business has found it can profit from a welfare catering business, something has gone horribly wrong. The program, by design, is going to collaspe from it's own weight. Who will be helped when that happens?
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My family my responsibility. Yes I will and have. I place the same level of responsibility on everyone. FWIW 3 kids and 3 grandkids. 20+ years retired Army. Some would say I did it for the adventure, some may even say I did it for the money. I can tell you I did it for my family and country. To be independent and self sufficient.
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I guess Bill Gates and Warren Buffet can support the other 300 million of us. Everybody kick back and relax.
Seriously, there obviously needs to be programs/the so called safety net. The issue is the people that spend their entire lives on it. They don't even try to work.
Actually, scratch that, they work pretty hard working the system. If they put that much effort into an actual job they might do quite well. We have parents teaching
their children how to "not work".
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I don't get the impression that any commenters on this thread disagree with providing help to those who need it and deserve it. That's what this nation is(was) about. The overall tone is directed towards those who abuse the system and turn it into a lifestyle and the politicians that enable them for their own benefit, while we, the ever-decreasing producers, pay for it. This system, as currently abused, is going to collapse and burn, then nobody is going to get needed help and most everyone is going to be miserable.
I was at the supermarket recently and watched a momma with 2 kids pay for cart-full-o-stuff with "vouchers". Then watched her load it into a new SUV with a temporary plate (new purchase) on it. These abusers have no shame. Anyone who truly needs help, or does the helping, should be outraged by the blatant abuse that goes unchecked, in fact, encouraged by politicians.
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I hear people talk a lot about there being jobs all over, but no body wants to work. I just came home from an interview for a store manager at a national chain car rental company. Prior business background and a Bachelors degree was needed. Sounds reasonable for a manager position.
I have 3 associates, a bachelors, and a masters, plus banking experience and prior business experience, both commercial and industrial. They seemed somewhat pleased to offer me the position. (They did not ask about my health and I did not mention my condition either)
The salary was $475/week. Here is the other shoe. They expected me to BE ONSITE for a minimum of 63 hours per week! Plus be available and on call (with a cell phone I have to pay for) 24/7 for that $475 per week. They said they estimated it was more like 52 hours a week because you could drink coffee and watch TV when you were not waiting on customers, but you had to stay on site. Isn't that like paying a cop only when he responds to a call? I held my cards close so I could try to reason through it when the shock was over, a few years back I would have been a lot more expressive.
As I opened the mail there was notice that because of Federal manipulation, my county is re assessing the property taxes. How much can they squeeze?
I am not making excuses, but I am understanding why people get discouraged. If that is what I can find, what can a person without any skills get?
This is not the first job I have looked at that was unrealistic. Have I lost touch with reality or has the world gone mad?
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Leo, good luck with the job hunt. And yes you are correct about the job situation in this country. Another problem I lay at the feet of government.
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I hear people talk a lot about there being jobs all over, but no body wants to work. I just came home from an interview for a store manager at a national chain car rental company. Prior business background and a Bachelors degree was needed. Sounds reasonable for a manager position.
I have 3 associates, a bachelors, and a masters, plus banking experience and prior business experience, both commercial and industrial. They seemed somewhat pleased to offer me the position. (They did not ask about my health and I did not mention my condition either)
The salary was $475/week. Here is the other shoe. They expected me to BE ONSITE for a minimum of 63 hours per week! Plus be available and on call (with a cell phone I have to pay for) 24/7 for that $475 per week. They said they estimated it was more like 52 hours a week because you could drink coffee and watch TV when you were not waiting on customers, but you had to stay on site. Isn't that like paying a cop only when he responds to a call? I held my cards close so I could try to reason through it when the shock was over, a few years back I would have been a lot more expressive.
As I opened the mail there was notice that because of Federal manipulation, my county is re assessing the property taxes. How much can they squeeze?
I am not making excuses, but I am understanding why people get discouraged. If that is what I can find, what can a person without any skills get?
This is not the first job I have looked at that was unrealistic. Have I lost touch with reality or has the world gone mad?
If you need prior business background and a bachelors degree to make $7.53/hour ($475/63 hours), something is indeed wrong. What do the non-managers make? I bet the people that issue the receipt at the car return and drive the cars to be cleaned and readied for another rental make more than that. 10 years ago my son was an over night stocker at WalMart and made twice that.
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YOU LIE! Everyone knows WM doesn't pay that kind of money!
Just ask someone who never worked there!
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YOU LIE! Everyone knows WM doesn't pay that kind of money!
Just ask someone who never worked there!
Believe me I've had that discussion many times. ;)