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The C-14, aka Kawasaki Concours-14, the new one :) => Accessories and modifications - C14/GTR 1400 => Topic started by: gPink on July 06, 2011, 06:06:24 AM

Title: '08 C14 glove box revisited
Post by: gPink on July 06, 2011, 06:06:24 AM
Did the search. No help. I want to ditch the useless (to me) glove box. Any ideas on replacement panels?
Title: Re: '08 C14 glove box revisited
Post by: C1xRider on July 06, 2011, 09:32:14 AM
You could check here:

http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?topic=1855.msg20604#msg20604 (http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?topic=1855.msg20604#msg20604)

Your searching skills need some work...  ;)
Title: Re: '08 C14 glove box revisited
Post by: jonathan on July 06, 2011, 09:35:51 AM
You can install the panel from the 2010-11 bikes or be a pioneer and fab something up. Post pics.
Title: Re: '08 C14 glove box revisited
Post by: MrPepsi on July 06, 2011, 09:40:32 AM
I understand why the current GB is not very useful, but why would you ever want to remove it altogether and put a blank piece of plastic in its place.
I use my GB on my '09. Granted its not great, but it holds some ear plugs and even a bike lock I use for helmets.
Title: Re: '08 C14 glove box revisited
Post by: OregonLAN on July 06, 2011, 10:19:02 AM
I use mine for sunglasses, ear plugs and a place to mount the key chain garage door opener. My cell phone fits in there too, but I have a mount for that now...
Title: Re: '08 C14 glove box revisited
Post by: Son of Pappy on July 06, 2011, 10:30:43 AM
Store Autocom and leads, also have PCV pigtail for easy access.  Beats the heck outa pulling a seat or plastic.  But that wasnt your question.  If I were to remove the box I would fab up a piece of hard wood to fit in it's place, lots of wipe on poly, and nice hardware to mount it up.  Carefull sanding to maintain the same countour and keep 'er flush.  I may even add a piece of steel as an inlay to aid in tank bag usage.  Maybe an engraved plaque or something that compliments the bike or SWMBO!!
Title: Re: '08 C14 glove box revisited
Post by: ZG on July 06, 2011, 10:49:32 AM
The GB will hold and extra pair of underwear, which if you ride a black one you might need from time to time...  :o   ;)
Title: Re: '08 C14 glove box revisited
Post by: gflint on July 06, 2011, 11:03:01 AM
Do you put the used underwear back in the GB?
Title: Re: '08 C14 glove box revisited
Post by: Son of Pappy on July 06, 2011, 11:08:19 AM
Do you put the used underwear back in the GB?
I always wondered why the black ones stunk all the time ???
Title: Re: '08 C14 glove box revisited
Post by: ZG on July 06, 2011, 11:10:47 AM
(http://i1200.photobucket.com/albums/bb336/jaywilcox/facepalm.gif)   (http://i1200.photobucket.com/albums/bb336/jaywilcox/Bitchslap6.gif)
Title: Re: '08 C14 glove box revisited
Post by: Conrad on July 06, 2011, 11:32:48 AM
Reminder to self, never, never look in ZG's glove box...
Title: Re: '08 C14 glove box revisited
Post by: Conrad on July 06, 2011, 11:34:55 AM
Do you put the used underwear back in the GB?

I always wondered why the black ones stunk all the time ???


Theft deterrent?
Title: Re: '08 C14 glove box revisited
Post by: ZG on July 06, 2011, 11:48:07 AM
(http://i1200.photobucket.com/albums/bb336/jaywilcox/smiley_dunno.gif)




(http://i1200.photobucket.com/albums/bb336/jaywilcox/kajshduiqywd8.jpg)

Title: Re: '08 C14 glove box revisited
Post by: jjsC6 on July 06, 2011, 03:28:10 PM
I added a pre-2010 glove box to my 2010.  I would not give it up - I use it for quite a few things.  BTW, no it's not a straight forward bolt on.  Some fabrication was involved but for a good do-it-yourselfer with some imagination it still less than a two hour job.  A "how to" thread was lost in the May forunami.

(http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff71/jjscorvettec6/C14topboxinstalledtop.jpg)
Title: Re: '08 C14 glove box revisited
Post by: MrPepsi on July 06, 2011, 03:37:16 PM
A "how to" thread was lost in the May forunami.


Do you recall the title of the thread? I'd love to find it in Google cache.
Title: Re: '08 C14 glove box revisited
Post by: MrPepsi on July 06, 2011, 03:41:20 PM
Thank you Google cache.
Sorry no pics..


How to: I added 08-09 top glove box to my '10

(1/6) > >>

jjscsix:
Before I even got my 2010, I wanted to know if I could add the earlier tank top glove box to my new bike.  I ride without my saddlebags and I wanted all the storage I could get.

Forum member "CarlDeBar" was at my house one day on his 09, and we did some experimenting.  While we didn't try to really mount his, we did pull his off and looked at the brackets enough to see that it looked pretty doable.

I was in the process of checking to see what the parts would cost from the mother ship (Kawasaki dealer) when "Krautburner" decided to buy his wrecked bike and part it out.  We came to a quick agreement on a deal and it showed up last week.

When I pulled off the stock plastic cover and the bracket that had to be changed out, I quickly discovered some things I did not anticipate.  Unfazed, I proceeded with the install.  First up I had to pull off the bracket on my '10 and bolt on the bracket from the donor bike.  This has to be done because the spacing to bolt down the plastic bin are different than the plastic cover on the '10.  If you look at the picture below you can see the differences.  Where the blue tabs bolt down to the bracket the threaded insert is in the wrong place....



At first I just assumed I'd drill some holes and thread them or use some sort of self tapping screw.  But if you look, the bracket has a nasty bend right about where it needed to be drilled.  So I decided to proceed and worry about bolting it down later.  You'll see in a later picture what I wound up doing. 

The second problem was that the plastic tray actually hit the blue tabs and pushed down the blue body work too far.  I had to either grind the blue tabs off, or grind away the tray.  I decided I didn't want to grind on the tabs as it could cause me to not have a way to keep that part of the body work solid - so I ground away the plastic until the tray actually held down the blue tabs just enough.  Then, I put some foam under the blue tabs and just used the tray to hold that piece down.  The first picture below shows where I ground away plastic on the underside of the tray, and the next picture shows how it holds the tabs down without them being screwed down any more....





Next up on the list of problems....If you look at the picture below, you'll see that under the tray there are three brake lines heading toward the steering stem.  Apparently the two on the right side were on the earlier models, but the one on the left was not.  The plastic tray has an indentation to clear the ones on the right, but not the one on the left. As a result, the tray does not sit down all the way.



The fix for this was to put a 1/2" spacer under the front mounting point up by the steering stem.  See this picture - there is a white nylon spacer installed to hold the front of the box a little higher...



Because it was being raised, and there is only one bolt in the middle of the front, I was concerned that the front of the box may wiggle around a little with the spacer installed. So I put some foam under the tray to firm it up.  In the following picture you can see where I put the foam.  BTW, there is a cable in a "loom" going across - that cable is for the radar detector that I installed.  I could have rerouted those wires, but with the foam in place it was not a problem to leave them there.



The final result works great.  If you really look you can see a bit of a gap between it and the tank.  But you really don't notice it. If anything, the flash from the camera and the angle makes the gap look worse in the picture than it really is....



While it sounds like some work - the truth is that even though I had to figure it all out as I went, it only took me maybe an hour and a half to do all the work and have it ready to ride.

Hope this helps.   
Title: Re: '08 C14 glove box revisited
Post by: gPink on July 06, 2011, 05:21:58 PM
You could check here:

http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?topic=1855.msg20604#msg20604 (http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?topic=1855.msg20604#msg20604)

Your searching skills need some work...  ;)
No doubt! Thanks
Title: Re: '08 C14 glove box revisited
Post by: 556ALPHA on July 06, 2011, 05:53:29 PM
You could check here:

http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?topic=1855.msg20604#msg20604 (http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?topic=1855.msg20604#msg20604)

Your searching skills need some work...  ;)

Sometimes it is actually easier to use the wheel instead of re-inventing it but maybe it is just me.   I am guilty of not reading the entire thread on occasion as well.
Title: Re: '08 C14 glove box revisited
Post by: C1xRider on July 06, 2011, 07:36:02 PM
Hey Brent,

  You could also look here : http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?topic=1855.msg20567#msg20567 (http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?topic=1855.msg20567#msg20567)  (with pictures!).  ;D
Title: Re: '08 C14 glove box revisited
Post by: jjsC6 on July 06, 2011, 07:43:17 PM
Thanks to ya'll for finding my original thread - pics and all!  :chugbeer:
Title: Re: '08 C14 glove box revisited
Post by: Excavator on July 06, 2011, 08:20:17 PM
The GB will hold and extra pair of underwear, which if you ride a black one you might need from time to time...  :o   ;)

 :rotflmao:  And don't forget the pilot's license.   :thumbs:
Title: Re: '08 C14 glove box revisited
Post by: marku8a on July 06, 2011, 09:22:25 PM
Not sure if others has this problem. My box lid would not open with just pressing the release button. I had to push the lid toward me to get it to release. I took it off and found the problem. A little filing and bingo! Now fixed and working like it was supposed to in the first place!!
Title: Re: '08 C14 glove box revisited
Post by: Son of Pappy on July 06, 2011, 10:22:28 PM
I added a pre-2010 glove box to my 2010.  I would not give it up - I use it for quite a few things.  BTW, no it's not a straight forward bolt on.  Some fabrication was involved but for a good do-it-yourselfer with some imagination it still less than a two hour job.  A "how to" thread was lost in the May forunami.

(http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff71/jjscorvettec6/C14topboxinstalledtop.jpg)

Maybe the OP and jjsC6 could ping each other and see if a swap could occur, a coupla$$ for a panel?  Just a thought.
Title: Re: '08 C14 glove box revisited
Post by: bob14 on July 07, 2011, 05:29:52 AM
GLOVE BOX ???????



Oh you mean the power panel


(http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll168/bob14_08/DSC01152.jpg)
Title: Re: '08 C14 glove box revisited
Post by: Conrad on July 07, 2011, 05:55:05 AM
Not sure if others has this problem. My box lid would not open with just pressing the release button. I had to push the lid toward me to get it to release. I took it off and found the problem. A little filing and bingo! Now fixed and working like it was supposed to in the first place!!

Mine does the same thing. I haven't gotten fed up enough yet to pull it apart and fix it, soon though. What did you file?
Title: Re: '08 C14 glove box revisited
Post by: Y0ssarian on July 07, 2011, 06:41:28 AM
GLOVE BOX ??? ??? ?



Oh you mean the power panel


(http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll168/bob14_08/DSC01152.jpg)

So you took the only storage space that can be accessed while underway, and filled it with things you don't need to access while you're underway?