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Offline Gumby

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It's official Windows 8 is the New Coke
« on: May 02, 2013, 09:28:46 AM »
Everyone knows that New Coke was a total disaster for Coca-Cola. Except, of course, that isn't actually what happened. Yes, New Coke, like Windows 8 for Microsoft, was a total market failure, but that wasn't the end of the Coca-Cola story, and Windows 8 may not be the end of Microsoft's Windows tale.

http://www.zdnet.com/windows-8-microsofts-new-coke-moment-7000014779/

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Re: It's official Windows 8 is the New Coke
« Reply #1 on: May 02, 2013, 09:51:19 AM »
Interesting read. I bought a new desktop with Win 8 installed and I hate it. I use the "desktop" mode 100% of the time and pin every program I use to the desktop or the task bar. If I could go back to Win 7 on this machine I would.

That said, seems like Win 8 was designed for touch interface like tablets. Don't know how well that works cuz I don't have one.

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Re: It's official Windows 8 is the New Coke
« Reply #2 on: May 02, 2013, 06:50:21 PM »
The problem is, Microsoft stops supporting it's older versions. We could be stuck with 8 in five years.

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Re: It's official Windows 8 is the New Coke
« Reply #3 on: May 02, 2013, 07:27:39 PM »
/Rant

Change for the sake of change.

This represents a huge loss of productivity in the workforce every few years that I'm surprised the corporate world hasn't squawked about.  They just seem to blindly accept it as 'progress'.

MS (and others) renames things, puts them in different places on their menus when there's really not a lot of change in functionality and calls it a 'new and improved' version.

Most geeks (I'm one but am tired of all the unnecessary 'learning') can't wait to get the latest and greatest so they can spend a couple months (or more) finding out how to access what they already knew.  In other words, they have to learn where its been hidden in the new version and with new fancy graphics.

Think of the real productivity that could have been realized during that time.

Take user level operating system alone:  Microsoft Windows 3.0, 95, 98 2nd edition, ME, XP, Vista.

They all have a different way of getting to the same basic things for network setup, user controls, etc.  They name, sort and categorize THE SAME THINGS differently in each version.

With XP they started going to iterations of versions (basic, pro, ultimate) which have differences in basic configuration and functionality between them.

Gratuitous change.  Its maddening.

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Re: It's official Windows 8 is the New Coke
« Reply #4 on: May 02, 2013, 07:48:21 PM »
/Rant

Change for the sake of change.

This represents a huge loss of productivity in the workforce every few years that I'm surprised the corporate world hasn't squawked about.  They just seem to blindly accept it as 'progress'.

MS (and others) renames things, puts them in different places on their menus when there's really not a lot of change in functionality and calls it a 'new and improved' version.

Most geeks (I'm one but am tired of all the unnecessary 'learning') can't wait to get the latest and greatest so they can spend a couple months (or more) finding out how to access what they already knew.  In other words, they have to learn where its been hidden in the new version and with new fancy graphics.

Think of the real productivity that could have been realized during that time.

Take user level operating system alone:  Microsoft Windows 3.0, 95, 98 2nd edition, ME, XP, Vista.

They all have a different way of getting to the same basic things for network setup, user controls, etc.  They name, sort and categorize THE SAME THINGS differently in each version.

With XP they started going to iterations of versions (basic, pro, ultimate) which have differences in basic configuration and functionality between them.

Gratuitous change.  Its maddening.

/Rant off

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Re: It's official Windows 8 is the New Coke
« Reply #5 on: May 03, 2013, 02:01:20 AM »
It's an unwritten law always respected so far: Microsoft alternates a crappy OS with a good one.
MS.DOS (all versions): Good
Windows 3.0: bad
Windows 3.1 good
Windows 95: bad
Windows 98: good
Windows ME: bad
Windows XP :good
Windows VISTA: bad
Windows 7: good
Windows 8: bad

thus...

Next OS: good!
:)

To complete the view, history about network oriented OS's has been better:
Windows for Workgroup: so so
Windows NT: good
Windows 2000: good
Windows XP: good
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Re: It's official Windows 8 is the New Coke
« Reply #6 on: May 03, 2013, 04:25:03 AM »
I have to agree.  I bought a copy of Win8 Pro to try out.  I'm a geek for a living, and figured I'd best get a start on figuring out where evereything is while I could do it at my leisure.  That lasted about a month before I gave up.  This thing was made for touchpads/tablets/phones and is at best clunky when using a mouse and keyboard.  At worst, it's infuriating.  Ballmer may not want to admit the mistake, but everyone knows it.  There are a few programs out there that will let you stay in Desktop mode, but whey should I have to pay someone else to fix MS's screw ups?  It's times like this I love my Linux systems more.

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Re: It's official Windows 8 is the New Coke
« Reply #7 on: May 03, 2013, 04:26:41 AM »
I like Windows 7 and will be sticking there for the foreseeable future......or until Windows 9 comes out.
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Re: It's official Windows 8 is the New Coke
« Reply #8 on: May 03, 2013, 04:50:05 AM »
It's an unwritten law always respected so far: Microsoft alternates a crappy OS with a good one.
MS.DOS (all versions): Good
Windows 3.0: bad
Windows 3.1 good
Windows 95: bad
Windows 98: good
Windows ME: VERY VERY bad
Windows XP :good
Windows VISTA: bad
Windows 7: good
Windows 8: bad

thus...

Next OS: good!
:)

To complete the view, history about network oriented OS's has been better:
Windows for Workgroup: so so
Windows NT: good
Windows 2000: good
Windows XP: good

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Re: It's official Windows 8 is the New Coke
« Reply #9 on: May 03, 2013, 04:51:53 AM »
I like Windows 7 and will be sticking there for the foreseeable future......or until Windows 9 comes out.

+1 7 is great. I've only played with 8 a few times and I hate it. It's so non intuitive and it's just a total mess.    >:(  :pukeface:
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Re: It's official Windows 8 is the New Coke
« Reply #10 on: May 03, 2013, 06:25:03 AM »
I needed a new laptop a couple months ago.  All I could find was windows 8.  I ordered a left over HP machine from tigerdirect that was still windows 7.  I am glad I did.  I was in bestbuy to get some cords and talked to the same kid that tried to (unsuccessfully) demonstrate the windows 8 products.  He said that they cannot give away the windows 8 laptops.   

I have a couple of friends that do IT work for the hospital.   They both think that apple is now the way to go for personal computers.  I guess apple doesn't change things just because they feel like obsoleting your old one.  I have no experience with apple, but may give them a try if MS keeps making my life complicated.

I did have Google force a download on my computer that left it inoperative.  It acted like it was google chrome 1/2 installed.  Kind of angered me because I do not use google and want nothing to do with them or their spyware infested "services".     I did a back dated system restore and all is well, at least for now. 
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Re: It's official Windows 8 is the New Coke
« Reply #11 on: May 03, 2013, 10:29:38 AM »
I bought a Windows 7 machine a month before Windows 8 was released. Very happy I did.
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Re: It's official Windows 8 is the New Coke
« Reply #12 on: May 03, 2013, 06:06:41 PM »
It's an unwritten law always respected so far: Microsoft alternates a crappy OS with a good one.
MS.DOS (all versions): Good
Windows 3.0: bad
Windows 3.1 good
Windows 95: bad
Windows 98: good
Windows ME: bad
Windows XP :good
Windows VISTA: bad
Windows 7: good
Windows 8: bad

thus...

Next OS: good!
:)

To complete the view, history about network oriented OS's has been better:
Windows for Workgroup: so so
Windows NT: good
Windows 2000: good
Windows XP: good

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Re: It's official Windows 8 is the New Coke
« Reply #13 on: May 03, 2013, 06:19:19 PM »
Give Microsoft credit......GREAT Strategic Marketing.  Get a bunch of crap out in the field and then sell the corrected product to all that bought the junk.
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Re: It's official Windows 8 is the New Coke
« Reply #14 on: May 03, 2013, 07:37:03 PM »
the few times I played with W8 in Costco left me frustrated...lets face it Microsoft is quickly being passed by since Bill Gates left.
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Re: It's official Windows 8 is the New Coke
« Reply #15 on: May 03, 2013, 10:04:38 PM »
I have a new expensive laptop I use for work, and it is Win 8. My nickname for it is Windows H8. It almost completely blows. My cursor jumps around by itself, the screen resizes by itself. Things open themselves. It is totally unstable. Do not buy any Win 8 until they "fix" it.
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Re: It's official Windows 8 is the New Coke
« Reply #16 on: May 03, 2013, 10:23:29 PM »
Win dose ate good. Solid like rock and wheel. Push button, color change. Play music, sound like wind. Much happy, much smart above owner, you like.

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Re: It's official Windows 8 is the New Coke
« Reply #17 on: May 04, 2013, 07:22:48 AM »
I bought a MacBook yesterday. I will spend some time learning the differences and the new features on a Mac, but I moving my personal stuff to the Mac. I decided not to wait for Microsoft to fix their screw up.

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Re: It's official Windows 8 is the New Coke
« Reply #18 on: May 06, 2013, 05:29:12 AM »
I don't like apple mostly because of the prices, they think highly of thsir stuff.  I prefer to buy generic hardware to my spec/preferences and load Win 7, Xp or Linux depending on who the system is for.
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Re: It's official Windows 8 is the New Coke
« Reply #19 on: May 17, 2013, 10:18:19 AM »
Just found this: http://www.stardock.com/products/start8/download.asp
$4.99 and you get the Win 7 start menu back and you can ignore the Win 8 tile start menu. This is a great product for people like me who needed a new desktop and got a Win 8 machine and now stuck with it. Gives you back about 90% of the Win 7 feel. For more info on how got get Win 8 to be more like Win 7: http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2013/03/how-to-make-windows-8-look-and-feel-like-windows-7/